Where do Sony make their money with the PS3?

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#1 magrappy
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One of those things that doesn't mean much but i was just wounderring. Sites all report Sony take a big lose on each console, take away the marketing and shipping world wide millions of units they take quite a lose. Online play is free, theres hardly tones of must have extra's and the games are all third party, or mainly third party. I can see why Nintendo would take a big lose because their first party games sell millions. Do third party developers on the ps3 have to kick a part of the profit to Sony?
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#2 crck
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Yes, Sony, Nintendo and MS all get a piece of the pie of any game sold on their systems.  Its probably in the range of $8-$10 from every 3rd party game disc sold.  Which is why ps3 and 360 games sell for $10 more then their PC counterparts.  Sony also gets a % of every blu-ray movie disc sold.  All 3 companies get a cut of anything sold through their download service as well.  I read that MS gets around 30% of anything put in their marketplace.
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#3 doolies
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Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.
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#4 310792
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I heard after 2 years they come to your house and take your pets for kebab meat (that's what someone at work told me anyway).

 Honestly?  The same way sports team and singers make a profit, sales of merchadise (games, controllers, eye toys, remote contorls, leads, downloadable content, etc, etc).  If everyone that goes to a concert buys a t-shirt and a programme the singer gets a whole lot of cash.

Michael Jackson's last world tour saw each concert costing $7million to put on, but he'd make the money back with profit from merchandise everytime.

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#5 KraigA
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Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.doolies


I'm pretty sure I read that only the PS3 was making a loss on every console sold... ?
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#6 ejstrup
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[QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.KraigA


I'm pretty sure I read that only the PS3 was making a loss on every console sold... ?

well so far Microsoft only has a big loss from the xbox altogether

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#7 310792
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[QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.KraigA

I'm pretty sure I read that only the PS3 was making a loss on every console sold... ?

Perhaps Microsoft have gone past the stage of making a loss then, but they were to being with. 

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#9 magrappy
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Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.doolies

 

its a nice myth that nintendo make profit from the wii but they do loose money per unit. it makes less to make then they sell it for but it cost more to make then nintendo sell to retailer suppliers.  

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#10 KraigA
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They actually probably make all there money from Brazil.. :lol:

Wiki claims Brasil is the most expensive place to buy a PS3 at $1700.. oh ****! I paid £425. for mine > ($800 ish)

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#12 mdl207
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Every company makes their money back via software.

Eventually, as the console progresses thru its lifespan and the cost of technology drops and the manufacturing efficiency improves, the company will begin to profit off the hardware sales as well.

No worries...if a company couldn't make money off their console, we wouldn't see a next generation model from them. 

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#13 mdl207
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[QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.Cellien
Wii makes money, Xbox 360 makes money, the PS3 loses money. Sony and MS are both knee deep in losses in the game industry. Last figure I heard, I believe Sony was at a total of 1 billion dollar loss, from all their divisions .Defective parts like laptop batteries and cameras was the major culprit.. and the launch of the PS3.

Ahh...uneducated trolling.

Nintendo is currently the only company to be making money off their hardware.

Microsoft is actually under fire for continually LOSING money despite their fantastic showing with the Xbox360 thus far. You really need to brush up on your research and then take your inflammatory comments over to System Wars where they would be better appreciated. 

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#14 mdl207
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Education for trolls.

Straight from Forbes.com (that's called actual research. Not make-it-up-itis)

"Well, after five years and over $21 billion invested, all they've got to show for it is $5.4 billion of cumulative operating losses, and Xbox 360 doesn't appear to be the silver bullet to turn things around."

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[QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.Cellien
Wii makes money, Xbox 360 makes money, the PS3 loses money. Sony and MS are both knee deep in losses in the game industry. Last figure I heard, I believe Sony was at a total of 1 billion dollar loss, from all their divisions .Defective parts like laptop batteries and cameras was the major culprit.. and the launch of the PS3.

http://xbox360.qj.net/Microsoft-Games-Division-in-deep-doo-doo-/pg/49/aid/90206

Hmmm

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#16 mdl207
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[QUOTE="Cellien"][QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.Trek5200

Wii makes money, Xbox 360 makes money, the PS3 loses money. Sony and MS are both knee deep in losses in the game industry. Last figure I heard, I believe Sony was at a total of 1 billion dollar loss, from all their divisions .Defective parts like laptop batteries and cameras was the major culprit.. and the launch of the PS3.

http://xbox360.qj.net/Microsoft-Games-Division-in-deep-doo-doo-/pg/49/aid/90206

Hmmm

Oh look. Another link. Isn't the magic of research fantastic? 

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[QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.Cellien
Wii makes money, Xbox 360 makes money, the PS3 loses money. Sony and MS are both knee deep in losses in the game industry. Last figure I heard, I believe Sony was at a total of 1 billion dollar loss, from all their divisions .Defective parts like laptop batteries and cameras was the major culprit.. and the launch of the PS3.

and Microsoft's gaming division has pushed $5.4 billion in losses since the first xbox launched. and it's continuing to rise.
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#18 LoG-Sacrament
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all devs pay royalties to sony in order to get their games on the ps3. so theres game sales, blu-ray sales, and probably some hdtv sales as a result of the ps3.
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#19 magrappy
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[QUOTE="Cellien"][QUOTE="doolies"]Nintendo are making all profit sold from every Wii. Only MS and Sony are making losses on their systems.mdl207

Wii makes money, Xbox 360 makes money, the PS3 loses money. Sony and MS are both knee deep in losses in the game industry. Last figure I heard, I believe Sony was at a total of 1 billion dollar loss, from all their divisions .Defective parts like laptop batteries and cameras was the major culprit.. and the launch of the PS3.

Ahh...uneducated trolling.

Nintendo is currently the only company to be making money off their hardware.

Microsoft is actually under fire for continually LOSING money despite their fantastic showing with the Xbox360 thus far. You really need to brush up on your research and then take your inflammatory comments over to System Wars where they would be better appreciated.

i like the way you call someone else uneducated trolling and you do it yourself, nintendo don't make money from the wii console. they make it for slightly less then they sell for but your forgetting nintendo don't sell to us they sell to supliers who sell to shops who sell to us. Nintendo make a small lose i garantee you. 

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#20 teebeenz
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Sony makes their money from games sales, but they will also make some from addon sales and eventualy unit sales once the price has come down enough to offer it at a small profit. Even if they never made a profit from ahrdware game sales would be enough.
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#22 Radiozo
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At the moment they dont. Sony might make money of the ps3 in 2009. Until then they will most likely lose money.

MS are still losing money on the 360. It takes a at least a few years to make money of a console when you sell the console for less than it costs to build and develop it.

You have to sell a lot of games and controllers and stuff to make a profit.

Nintendo on the other hand does not sell consoles at a loss. They dont make much per console. I think its somewhere around 1-5$ or something like that but at least they dont lose money.

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#23 GloverD
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They actually probably make all there money from Brazil.. :lol:

Wiki claims Brasil is the most expensive place to buy a PS3 at $1700.. oh ****! I paid £425. for mine > ($800 ish)

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holy **** 1700 AMERICAN?
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#24 pimperjones
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ROYALTEES

$10-15 on every game sold by third party

10 Cents on every BluRay sold ever BluRay has alread sold 1million units thats 10million into Sony's pocket, multiply that for the next decade and you'll get a whiff of Sony's money.

Licensing fees on all PS3 related gear, i.e peripherals, add ons, controllers etc.

$30 Markup on all accessories sold for the console. Those sixaxxis controls don't really cost 50 dollars more like 3 dollars to produce. Those official Sony cables are worth $2-3 tops. 

They lose $200 on each console but rape you on royalty fees, licensing fees, peripheral mark ups, BluRay royalty, and etc etc. 

Sony ain't stupid they are not in it for love, they do it for profit. 

 

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#25 mdl207
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the ps3 is making no money lol games dont sale no money, consoles barely sale no money, and uhhh consoles dont sell no money its plain and simple:)

JuniorXL4

And yet, you somehow feel compelled to come to our side of the forums and talk about our "failure" of a system.

What's the matter?

Your console doesn't fulfill your gaming needs? 

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#26 reverend_K
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when mgs4 comes out and my neighbor buys 4 copies. he's already gone through 3 psps' 
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#27 reverend_K
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[QUOTE="JuniorXL4"]

the ps3 is making no money lol games dont sale no money, consoles barely sale no money, and uhhh consoles dont sell no money its plain and simple:)

 

mdl207

this is time that could be spent learning english. 
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#28 Blitz1130
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Sony will and is making money on the Ps2 continued dominance.