Which is the best out of these PS3 classics?

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#1 UnchartedZone
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Edit: At least read this paragraph before voting. It seems that a lot of people have been voting without reading first, so I'll give a short summary for you guys. This is the most important point that should be taken into consideration before voting: I am unfamiliar to ALL 3of these series. I have never played a game from any of these series before, but I do own MGS1 (I just never got around to beating it) and I have played Oblivion and liked it, which I assume is similar to Fallout. Now, since New Vegas' and Bioshock 2's storiesare separate from the other games in their series (I'm not interested in minor references or backstory), it's not an issue for those games, but if, after reading this, you are still going to vote for MGS4, should I wait for the MGS collection (which comes with 2,3, and Peace Walker) so I can own the whole series since I already have MGS1, or is it ok to just read about it on the internet? Thanks.

So my local store is having a big clearance of games $20 or less, and I figured I would get one while waiting for the games that I want to come out, such as Uncharted 3 and Skyrim. Anyway, 3 games they are selling interest me, but I'm not going to get all 3 because there are a lot of games that I want that are coming out during the rest of the year, and I don't want to spend too much time and money on videogames. So the 3 games are MGS4 (Yes, I know, I know, I haven't played the "greatest game of all time!!!!" yet), Bioshock 2, and Fallout: New Vegas. Here's my thoughts on all 3 so far.

MGS4: It got a bunch of perfect scores and many people say it's the best PS3 game. However, a lot of people complain that the story is too complicated, and if you haven't played the previous MGS games, you're going to be lost and the long cutscenes will mean nothing to you. I haven't played any MGS game before except like a bit of the first one (I had it on my PS1 and got up to the first boss, I think, then never got around to finishing it.) So if playing the previous games is really that important, I might hold off on MGS4, beat the first one on my PS1, then wait for the MGS collection (which will come with games 2, 3, and Peace Walker) so then if I get MGS4, I'll have the whole series. Or I could just read up on the previous games' plots on Wikipedia or something. What do you guys think? Oh yeah, I've also tried the demo for MGS4, but didn't really like it. However, I have heard people saying that it's a poor representation of the final game, and I also tried the Peace Walker demo on my PSP, which IDID enjoy.

Fallout: New Vegas: Fallout 3 was a major competitor with MGS4 for GOTY 2008, and many chose Fallout 3. However, New Vegas got lower scores generally because of all the glitches and because people felt it was more of the same, probably because it had the same outdated graphics/engine and the same issues as Fallout 3.Well, since I haven't played Fallout 3 or any Fallout game, for that matter, this won't be too much of an issue. I have played Oblivion, though, and loved it. So other than that, I'm assuming that New Vegas is better? I've heard it has a better story and gameplay options, plus the game's been out for a while now. The glitches must have been patched, right?

Bioshock 2: The original Bioshock, again, received many GOTY awards for 2008 (the 360 version, since the PS3 version came out one year later) and was also stated by many to be their favourite game this generation. The general consensus seems to be that while Bioshock 2 definitely has better gameplay, people liked the original more because they'd already explored Rapture, so it wasn't as mysterious or exciting. Well, again, I have never played Bioshock 1 before! Also, Bioshock Infinite looks really cool, and I heard that the PS3 version of it will include Bioshock 1. So, if I got that later and Bioshock 2 now, I could have the whole series. Also, I tried the Bioshock 1 demo and liked the story and atmosphere, but the controls felt too loose, and there were no options to change the sensitivity, so I ended up missing a lot of my shots, especially with the revolver. Is this fixed in Bioshock 2, or are there at least options for it?

So what do you guys think?

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#2 Aux99
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Out of that list, MGS4

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err... didn't read everything you posted but out of these i'd say MGS4. it's easily one of the best exclusive titles on the platform, offering a perfect combination of breathtaking gameplay, epic story and marvellous technical achievements. however, it's not for everyone so i won't be surprised if you dislike it so no promise here. oh yea, it lacks the sandbox features of Peace Walker and the multiplayer is pretty much dead now. haven't played Bioshock 2 so no comment.

whatever you do, avoid New Vegas - unless your idea of quality role-playing is having your party members stuck in the wall/ground every 15 minutes or the game crashing once every day, IF you're lucky. you don't have to take my words for it, but hey, don't say i didn't warn ya.

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MGS4 and UC2
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err... didn't read everything you posted but out of these i'd say MGS4. it's easily one of the best exclusive titles on the platform, offering a perfect combination of breathtaking gameplay, epic story and marvellous technical achievements. however, it's not for everyone so i won't be surprised if you dislike it so no promise here. oh yea, it lacks the sandbox features of Peace Walker and the multiplayer is pretty much dead now. haven't played Bioshock 2 so no comment.

whatever you do, avoid New Vegas - unless your idea of quality role-playing is having your party members stuck in the wall/ground every 15 minutes or the game crashing once every day, IF you're lucky. you don't have to take my words for it, but hey, don't say i didn't warn ya.

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The glitches and bugs in New Vegas still haven't been patched?

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MGS4 and UC2 CTR360

I have Uncharted 2 already. I'm only talking about the 3 games I listed. Other than that, I have all the "must-have" titles, even Demon's Souls.

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Metal Gear Solid 4. Fallout: New Vegas doesn't even compare to Fallout 3, and Bioshock 2 was good, but disappointing.

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[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

err... didn't read everything you posted but out of these i'd say MGS4. it's easily one of the best exclusive titles on the platform, offering a perfect combination of breathtaking gameplay, epic story and marvellous technical achievements. however, it's not for everyone so i won't be surprised if you dislike it so no promise here. oh yea, it lacks the sandbox features of Peace Walker and the multiplayer is pretty much dead now. haven't played Bioshock 2 so no comment.

whatever you do, avoid New Vegas - unless your idea of quality role-playing is having your party members stuck in the wall/ground every 15 minutes or the game crashing once every day, IF you're lucky. you don't have to take my words for it, but hey, don't say i didn't warn ya.

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The glitches and bugs in New Vegas still haven't been patched?

i patched it up to v1.04 (the latest in 1.05, i think) and it's still full of glitches, big and small.

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MGS4 is good. Get it if you have a decent understanding of the Metal Gear universe. Vegas is very buggy, but has a good story to it. Bioshock 2 is not so bad, its just that the original Bioshock was better. All in all I would say MGS4, then Bioshock 2 and Vegas are tied for second choice.
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Metal Gear Solid 4. Fallout: New Vegas doesn't even compare to Fallout 3, and Bioshock 2 was good, but disappointing.

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How exactly is New Vegas not as good as Fallout 3? I don't know if you read everything I typed because it is kinda long, but if you didn't, I said that I've never played any Fallout game before, so the "more of the same" criticism of New Vegas won't be an issue. Other than that, is Fallout 3 better than New Vegas in any significant way?

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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Metal Gear Solid 4. Fallout: New Vegas doesn't even compare to Fallout 3, and Bioshock 2 was good, but disappointing.

UnchartedZone

How exactly is New Vegas not as good as Fallout 3? I don't know if you read everything I typed because it is kinda long, but if you didn't, I said that I've never played any Fallout game before, so the "more of the same" criticism of New Vegas won't be an issue. Other than that, is Fallout 3 better than New Vegas in any significant way?

Fallout 3 is way better than new vegas

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[QUOTE="UnchartedZone"]

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Metal Gear Solid 4. Fallout: New Vegas doesn't even compare to Fallout 3, and Bioshock 2 was good, but disappointing.

Aux99

How exactly is New Vegas not as good as Fallout 3? I don't know if you read everything I typed because it is kinda long, but if you didn't, I said that I've never played any Fallout game before, so the "more of the same" criticism of New Vegas won't be an issue. Other than that, is Fallout 3 better than New Vegas in any significant way?

Fallout 3 is way better than new vegas

In some ways yes. But if you looked past the bugs, vegas was a great game. (Vegas did have a lot more bugs than fallout 3)
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[QUOTE="UnchartedZone"]

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Metal Gear Solid 4. Fallout: New Vegas doesn't even compare to Fallout 3, and Bioshock 2 was good, but disappointing.

Aux99

How exactly is New Vegas not as good as Fallout 3? I don't know if you read everything I typed because it is kinda long, but if you didn't, I said that I've never played any Fallout game before, so the "more of the same" criticism of New Vegas won't be an issue. Other than that, is Fallout 3 better than New Vegas in any significant way?

Fallout 3 is way better than new vegas

Ok, but I asked how is it better?

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OP - I actually read your post. Do NOT get MGS4. You said you only played a bit of the first game. You will be lost. lol. Unless you read up on the stories your screwed. In all honesty buy Fallout 3, and the original Bioshock.
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Out of that list, MGS4

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MGS4 is the best out the bunch.
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OP - I actually read your post. Do NOT get MGS4. You said you only played a bit of the first game. You will be lost. lol. Unless you read up on the stories your screwed. In all honesty buy Fallout 3, and the original Bioshock.Logan832

Ok, I'll wait for the MGS collection to come out and get MGS4 with it. But you said "buy Fallout 3" too. Could anyone please tell me why the hell everyone is saying this? In what ways is Fallout 3 superior to New Vegas?

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[QUOTE="Logan832"]OP - I actually read your post. Do NOT get MGS4. You said you only played a bit of the first game. You will be lost. lol. Unless you read up on the stories your screwed. In all honesty buy Fallout 3, and the original Bioshock.UnchartedZone

Ok, I'll wait for the MGS collection to come out and get MGS4 with it. But you said "buy Fallout 3" too. Could anyone please tell me why the hell everyone is saying this? In what ways is Fallout 3 superior to New Vegas?

The story in Fallout 3 is better in my opinion

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In some ways yes. But if you looked past the bugs, vegas was a great game. (Vegas did have a lot more bugs than fallout 3)Logan832

Even if New Vegas didn't have bugs, it wouldn't be great. It made improvements to the gameplay in some ways like being able to aim down the sights and the companion wheel, but it lacks something that Fallout 3 excelled in: atmosphere. New Vegas has so many people running around in it that it didn't even feel post apocalyptic. And the artistic design was just plain ugly. Fallout 3 had a desperate, desolate feel to it. And while the story if Fallout 3 was far from great, the story in New Vegas is trash. Even small stuff, like the radio stations, aren't as good as they were in Fallout 3. The world was also much more hostile and dangerous. Settlements were few and far between, and in the ruins scattered throughout the wasteland was groups of raiders, super mutants, and radioactive creatures. In New Vegas, if you're friends with the NCR, you can basically travel anywhere relatively safe.

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I say Bioshock 2. MGS wasn't good for me since I never really was into the series before, so the story was just all over the place without knowing about anything. For fans I'm sure it's an amazing game, but for me it didn't do much. Fallout 3 was boring for me so idk what to say concerning New Vegas.

I actually prefer the main antagonist in Bioshock 2, but I can see how people would rather go with the first game. Still, I got it for $10 and am so far really liking the story (though, the mp isn't overly great and makes trophy hunting annoying).

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MGS4
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If you aren't familiar with the MGS series, start with New Vegas
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i garauntee mgs4 will be the best game you played this gen.

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Metal Gear Solid 4 : Guns Of The Patriots - One of my favourite games of ALL TIME.
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GetFallout New Vegas and Metal Gear Solid 4. Which I saw copies at best buy for $14.99.The pre-owned section. But if you want a brand new copy Bioshock 2 and new vegas are $19.99 at best buy.

The best game out of those 3 is for me. Metal gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots. Love Liquid Ocelot and Old Snake.

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Hm, it seems that a lot of people are voting without reading first, because all the people who said that they did read it said that if I haven't played an MGS game before, I shouldn't play MGS4. I'll try putting a short summary in the beginning and see what happens to the poll results after that.

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MGS4 as a singleplayer experience is far better than Bioshock any day of the week. New Vegas is even better however, if you're viewing this purchase as one that will last you the whole of summer. So it depends on whether you're looking for a quick gaming fix or some real meat in your next gaming purchase. :)
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MGS4 as a singleplayer experience is far better than Bioshock any day of the week. New Vegas is even better however, if you're viewing this purchase as one that will last you the whole of summer. So it depends on whether you're looking for a quick gaming fix or some real meat in your next gaming purchase. :)Rootbeer95

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask about that. Are MGS4's and Bioshock 2's multiplayer modes dead? I know that New Vegas has the longest single player mode for sure.

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[QUOTE="Logan832"]In some ways yes. But if you looked past the bugs, vegas was a great game. (Vegas did have a lot more bugs than fallout 3)brickdoctor

Even if New Vegas didn't have bugs, it wouldn't be great. It made improvements to the gameplay in some ways like being able to aim down the sights and the companion wheel, but it lacks something that Fallout 3 excelled in: atmosphere. New Vegas has so many people running around in it that it didn't even feel post apocalyptic. And the artistic design was just plain ugly. Fallout 3 had a desperate, desolate feel to it. And while the story if Fallout 3 was far from great, the story in New Vegas is trash. Even small stuff, like the radio stations, aren't as good as they were in Fallout 3. The world was also much more hostile and dangerous. Settlements were few and far between, and in the ruins scattered throughout the wasteland was groups of raiders, super mutants, and radioactive creatures. In New Vegas, if you're friends with the NCR, you can basically travel anywhere relatively safe.

Thank you! Finally, someone explains in detail why they think Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas. Anyways, I know it's your opinion, but after reading your comment, I think I'd prefer New Vegas. I like having a bunch of people to interact with. Another example is Red Dead Redemption. The trailers looked awesome so I got it on day one with really high expectations, and it was a great game and travelling on horseback looking at the sunset and the wildlife was pretty cool, but then I started to notice that not many other people were on the road, which kinda annoyed me, especially because in GTA, the city is just full of life. Also, better shooting mechanics like being able to aim down the sights of a gun is a big deal to me. But thanks for the info!

By the way, how is the artistic design of New Vegas "just plain ugly"? It looks exactly the same as Fallout3 to me from videos I've seen. Or is it just me?

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#30 Benifited
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go for bioshock i love metal gear but 4 was rather boring. and fallout 3 is way better then vegas in my honest oppinion. But bioshock just has a bit of everything and just draws you into it just like the first one so pick that up.

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There's an app on PSN with the whole story for metal gear, i picked that up and along with wikipedia got a glimpse on the story.

That said you will miss quite a bit most likely, i know there's small touches like references or songs that fill you up with nostalgia if you played the other games (i just read comments on it :P), however i do loved MGS4 and would highly recommend it.

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I am a huge fan of the MGS series, but if I were you, I would wait until the collection comes out prior to playing MGS4. The main reason people hold the game in such high regard is because they have built a connection with the characters and the story.

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#33 CheekyIchi
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Metal Gear Solid 4. Nuff said. In terms of...well, everything, MGS4 beats out the other two games - big time. Fallout: New Vegas is too glitchy and lags too much. Bioshock 2 is too short.

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#34 Warriorboy1990
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Lol, none of those games are "classic". Maybe MGS4 though. Worst list I seen.
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#35 UnchartedZone
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Lol, none of those games are "classic". Maybe MGS4 though. Worst list I seen.Warriorboy1990

Well, like I said, many people consider each of these games or their predecessors to be the best game this generation.

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There's an app on PSN with the whole story for metal gear, i picked that up and along with wikipedia got a glimpse on the story.

That said you will miss quite a bit most likely, i know there's small touches like references or songs that fill you up with nostalgia if you played the other games (i just read comments on it :P), however i do loved MGS4 and would highly recommend it.

Elitro

Oh, is it the Metal Gear Database?

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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Partriot is the best game I have ever played in this generation of consoles.

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#38 Masamune_Wolf
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I highly recommend picking up the Metal Gear Solid HD collection and Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Please use the recommendation sticky in the future.