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#1 AllCalibur
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i do, but i think they add alot of depth to this generation of gaming.
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#2 americahellyeah
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Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything"
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#3 AllCalibur
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Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" americahellyeah
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics
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#4 xX_-X-_Xx
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bpoole96 will only play a game if it's good to look at. i like graphics but they don't make a game for me but sometimes they can make the game unbearable if the other game elements are mediocre at best.
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#5 rahul_batta
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You never play a game just because of the graphics, but you might NOT play a game because of its graphics, if that makes any sense.
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#6 BPoole96
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bpoole96 will only play a game if it's good to look at. i like graphics but they don't make a game for me but sometimes they can make the game unbearable if the other game elements are mediocre at best.xX_-X-_Xx

This is a lie sir. I do not play games based entirely on graphics. In this generation of gaming, decent graphics are nearly standard. Games like Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 are straight up unbearable. The graphics of that game are bad for a ps2 game, therefore after paying $600 for a ps3, I would like to play games that look like they are made for the system I bought. Not every game I have has great graphics. Army of Two and Ninja Gaiden Sigma have pretty standard graphics and I played them quite a bit. It just turns out that the big titles for Ps3, also have good graphics.

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#7 xX_-X-_Xx
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[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"]bpoole96 will only play a game if it's good to look at. i like graphics but they don't make a game for me but sometimes they can make the game unbearable if the other game elements are mediocre at best.BPoole96

This is a lie sir. I do not play games based entirely on graphics. In this generation of gaming, decent graphics are nearly standard. Games like Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 are straight up unbearable. The graphics of that game are bad for a ps2 game, therefore after paying $600 for a ps3, I would like to play games that look like they are made for the system I bought. Not every game I have has great graphics. Army of Two and Ninja Gaiden Sigma have pretty standard graphics and I played them quite a bit. It just turns out that the big titles for Ps3, also have good graphics.

Sir you are a hypocrite, graphics are everything to you, you only got the previously mentioned games because a 17 year old was bugging you. (no names of course - powerman91)... You are lucky you edited your post because a storm of grammar correction was coming!!
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#8 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"]bpoole96 will only play a game if it's good to look at. i like graphics but they don't make a game for me but sometimes they can make the game unbearable if the other game elements are mediocre at best.xX_-X-_Xx

This is a lie sir. I do not play games based entirely on graphics. In this generation of gaming, decent graphics are nearly standard. Games like Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 are straight up unbearable. The graphics of that game are bad for a ps2 game, therefore after paying $600 for a ps3, I would like to play games that look like they are made for the system I bought. Not every game I have has great graphics. Army of Two and Ninja Gaiden Sigma have pretty standard graphics and I played them quite a bit. It just turns out that the big titles for Ps3, also have good graphics.

Sir you are a hypocrite, graphics are everything to you, you only got the previously mentioned games because a 17 year old was bugging you. (no names of course - powerman91)... You are lucky you edited your post because a storm of grammar correction was coming!!

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't play games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

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#9 americahellyeah
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

they why are they playing a game? if they're in it for the graphics then they just watch a movie or something to that effect...
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#10 xX_-X-_Xx
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[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

This is a lie sir. I do not play games based entirely on graphics. In this generation of gaming, decent graphics are nearly standard. Games like Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 are straight up unbearable. The graphics of that game are bad for a ps2 game, therefore after paying $600 for a ps3, I would like to play games that look like they are made for the system I bought. Not every game I have has great graphics. Army of Two and Ninja Gaiden Sigma have pretty standard graphics and I played them quite a bit. It just turns out that the big titles for Ps3, also have good graphics.

BPoole96

Sir you are a hypocrite, graphics are everything to you, you only got the previously mentioned games because a 17 year old was bugging you. (no names of course - powerman91)... You are lucky you edited your post because a storm of grammar correction was coming!!

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't okay games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying!
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#11 Wild_Card
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i do, but i think they add alot of depth to this generation of gaming.AllCalibur
i made a blog aboutjust this thing. ifyou can stand the spelling please read it ;)
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"] Sir you are a hypocrite, graphics are everything to you, you only got the previously mentioned games because a 17 year old was bugging you. (no names of course - powerman91)... You are lucky you edited your post because a storm of grammar correction was coming!!xX_-X-_Xx

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't okay games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying!

Sir, how dare you flame and troll me. It is on, and once its on, it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics, you have been moderated, so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not edited your post, you would be crying!- Sir, your grammar was that of a pre-schooler with down syndrome. I felt the need to correct your many flaws in your sickening post. Eat it!

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#13 xX_-X-_Xx
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[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't okay games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

BPoole96

Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying!

Sir, how dare you flame and troll me. It is on, and once its on, it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics, you have been moderated, so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not edited your post, you would be crying!- Sir, your grammar was that of a pre-schooler with down syndrome. I felt the need to correct your many flaws in your sickening post. Eat it!

Sir, i was under the impression that you could not comprehend punctuation, therefore (refuse to use a comma) i left it out just for you. ................. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ????????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! """""""""""""""""""""" :::::::::::::::::::::::::: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; OWNED
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"] Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying! xX_-X-_Xx

Sir, how dare you flame and troll me. It is on, and once its on, it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics, you have been moderated, so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not edited your post, you would be crying!- Sir, your grammar was that of a pre-schooler with down syndrome. I felt the need to correct your many flaws in your sickening post. Eat it!

Sir, i was under the impression that you could not comprehend punctuation, therefore i left it out just for you. ................. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ????????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! """""""""""""""""""""" :::::::::::::::::::::::::: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; OWNED

You forgot these elements of grammar: _________ ----------- '''''''''''''''''''' ```````````~~~~~~~~~~~~ {{{{{{{{{{{{{{ }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} ((((((((((((( ))))))))))))) |||||||. How does it feel?

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#15 Gamer_4_Fun
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I bet the people who say this, deep down knows how important it is. Its if the first impression you get from a game, it has to be a good one....
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#16 xX_-X-_Xx
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[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Sir, how dare you flame and troll me. It is on, and once its on, it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics, you have been moderated, so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not edited your post, you would be crying!- Sir, your grammar was that of a pre-schooler with down syndrome. I felt the need to correct your many flaws in your sickening post. Eat it!

BPoole96

Sir, i was under the impression that you could not comprehend punctuation, therefore i left it out just for you. ................. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ????????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! """""""""""""""""""""" :::::::::::::::::::::::::: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; OWNED

You forgot these elements of grammar: _________ ----------- '''''''''''''''''''' ```````````~~~~~~~~~~~~ {{{{{{{{{{{{{{ }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} ((((((((((((( ))))))))))))) |||||||. How does it feel?

Feels great, i am eating a muffin.
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#17 JKusanagi
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as long as a game makes good use of the power of a next gen console its fine for me, like LBP, doesn't have good graphics (IMO), there's details thats for sure, but graphics in this game won't impress anyone, gameplay can

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#18 king_bobo
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i do, but i think they add alot of depth to this generation of gaming.AllCalibur
It's true, LBP probably wouldn't be half as adorable if it weren't for it's amazing graphics. Despite this, Resistance 2 graphics aren't all that, but the online gameplay kicks many other games out of the ocean.
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#19 clarkportmanken
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graphics are nothing, art directions everything. art direction makes what you see actually interesting and cohesive to the story. graphics are just a tool for that, and developers forgot that. to many games, specialy fps, that look exactly the same theres not creativity at all weather its ww2 or modern day or futurisitc its got that washed out film grainy look.

which isn't even realistic it just looks like film. im glad they discovered post processing effects but try to use more then one. i personally think the hardware this gen has killed visuals everything is easier to create theres less creativity involved and you end up getting a bunch of games that look the same. not to mention the worst thing about this gen is that everything seems to take a back seat to graphics AI story gameplay mechanics.

the AI thing really bugs me because everyone spending so much time on graphics and physics and yeah it looks cool but if wanted something that looks cool ill rent an action film which will always look better. i want to actually feel im in it and if my enemies are brain dead drones that instantly takes me out of the game.

i think AI is way more important then graphics, heck i'd put graphics at the bottom of the list down there with sound as the least most important part of a game. (and by graphics i mean on a technical level not art direction, since for the most part that what people are talking about and thats what devs refer to when talking about graphics)

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#20 Jekken6
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Lots of people still play Morrowind and that crappy graphics. So no, graphics are not everything
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#21 Dogswithguns
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I didnt say grphics are everything. he did.
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#22 ThePlothole
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To be honest I'm still sometimes wowed by the visuals of my Dreamcast games. So of the reasons I did have to get a PS3, graphical power wasn't one of them.
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#23 antwon78
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It's real simple just as in real life a pretty girl attracts you, her personality keeps you. Nobody wants an ugly game most won't give it a try but a nice looking game will draw you in so you can find out if it's gameplay is good or bad.
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#25 z4twenny
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graphics aren't everything, if they were then i wouldn't still enjoy all my old nintendo and super nintendo games.
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#26 420Token420
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"] Sir you are a hypocrite, graphics are everything to you, you only got the previously mentioned games because a 17 year old was bugging you. (no names of course - powerman91)... You are lucky you edited your post because a storm of grammar correction was coming!!xX_-X-_Xx

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't okay games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying!

Who are you?

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#27 kiraburu
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I dont want to play a game on my ps3 that looks like a ps1 one(and its sold for 60$). Its true that there has to be a compromise between all aspect of the game but the graphics has to be at least good to the current gaming generation. So dont be a bunch of liers:D(who do you like to bang, ugly betty or carmen electra??)
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#28 khai411
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Lots of games from the SNES era had crappy stories/creativity. Thinking back now, I think some had an equivalent of no story at all. There was a period that brought about a deluge of platformers. like we are having the deluge of shooters these days. With that said, some games today still have good stories/creativity, others don't. It has always been this was from time, it didn't start today. Anyway, from just completing a computer graphics course this semester, I can say graphics are important to developers. I even now understand why some might not want to develop for the Wii. They are constantly striving to achieve graphics on par with CGI and reality. Working on new techniques and tricks. Nvidia and ATI are still doing good business. There are several things that make a good game. And good graphics is definitely one of them.
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In my opinion it is a given that developers spend more time on the look of a game than they do on the content. I have no way of knowing or understanding, at this time, the time frames they work in for game development or the money spent on good writers versus good artists. I do, however, believe that the two have to almost be a perfect marrieage to make a good game.
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#30 hermes200
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There is a balance: good games don't need good graphics, but that is hadrly an excuse. I have played mediocre games with great graphics (Far Cry) and they are still mediocre, or great games with mediocre graphics (I still enjoy some Budokai in my PS3), but I can put things in context. I don't mind games in the Store that have regular graphics if they have great gameplay, but I can't tolerate retail games that don't have at least decent graphics.

That is why I can play PSN and PS2 games in an HD TV, but can't stand the new Disgaea (looks crapy, in a lazy way). On the other hand, great graphics don't mean automatic buy for me (I wasn't really interested in Uncharted, for example)

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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

I think graphics are extremely important - or else I would still be playing an Atari 2600 which had some fun games with crappy graphics. However while I think graphics are extremely important they aren't everything... Lair is a perfect example of that. That game had avsolutely amazing graphics and still managed to be the biggest waste of money I have ever spent on a game.
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i do, but i think they add alot of depth to this generation of gaming.AllCalibur
I agree. They certainly aren't everything, but they are important.
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#33 wooooode
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

But graphics only are called movies silent movies at that.
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Graphics aren't everything but I think they can add to the enjoyability of a game. Like in Uncharted for example, every few minutes I would stop and look around at the surroundings and it was kinda fun.
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

I'm not particularily interested in offroad racing, which explains why I don't play the Motorstorm game that was bundled with my PS3, but I was about to buy Pacific Rift just because it's so pretty.

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[QUOTE="AllCalibur"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" DataDream
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

I think graphics are extremely important - or else I would still be playing an Atari 2600 which had some fun games with crappy graphics. However while I think graphics are extremely important they aren't everything... Lair is a perfect example of that. That game had avsolutely amazing graphics and still managed to be the biggest waste of money I have ever spent on a game.

LOL- then you bought Haze.

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#37 Mckenna1845
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

I wouldn't say that. It depends how good the graphics we're talking about, like people may have bought crysis just to witness how great it looks (it is a great game though too). I doubt people will just buy a great looking game though unless it sets boundaries in the graphical department.
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#38 JKusanagi
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[QUOTE="AllCalibur"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" Scianix-Black

there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

I'm not particularily interested in offroad racing, which explains why I don't play the Motorstorm game that was bundled with my PS3, but I was about to buy Pacific Rift just because it's so pretty.

I would have bought motor storm if only it looked as awesome as it did on the PS3 pre launch trailers, but instead of bikes exploding and leaving fire and all that cool stuff shown, you just disappear and respawn

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#39 Scianix-Black
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It's too bad so many people equate photorealism to a great looking game.

I still think Okami is the most beautiful game I've ever seen.

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#40 The_Tron
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i do, but i think they add alot of depth to this generation of gaming.AllCalibur

no, graphics don't add "depth" at all. Gameplay and controls are what add depth to a game, graphics are just used to make the "simple" people think a game is going to be good to hook them into getting hyped about the game and then buying it. Even if it's a pretty looking turd of a game.

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#41 DataDream
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[QUOTE="DataDream"][QUOTE="AllCalibur"] there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphicsScianix-Black

I think graphics are extremely important - or else I would still be playing an Atari 2600 which had some fun games with crappy graphics. However while I think graphics are extremely important they aren't everything... Lair is a perfect example of that. That game had avsolutely amazing graphics and still managed to be the biggest waste of money I have ever spent on a game.

LOL- then you bought Haze.

GRRrrrrr - I know - quit reminding me!!! LOL - I still haven't played it and it was only $10 so it will sit there until I am SUPER bored I guess. :P
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#42 xitwenty20ix
Member since 2007 • 166 Posts

Graphics are the first thing I take into consideration. If graphics are not great it isn't going to bother me too much, it is the gameplay that sways my decision, one game that will prove graphics arent everything is World of Warcraft.

I play World of Warcraft along with 11million others and the graphics are nothing special, it is the gameplay the make people keep going back to it.

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#43 enygma500
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[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Lies again sir, I purchased NGS before I even had online for my ps3. Although that particular 17 year old was bugging me, I would have returned it if I was a true graphics w hore. This proves that I don't okay games based on good graphics. Owned sir.

420Token420

Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying!

Who are you?

do you get the feeling that those 2 are actually 1 person also?
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#44 Yo-gan
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]Nobody thinks that graphics are "everything" AllCalibur
there are alot of ppl who play games just for the graphics

These people are fools
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#45 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="420Token420"]

[QUOTE="xX_-X-_Xx"] Sir how dare you flame and troll me, it is on and once it's on it can't be turned off. Just for your lack of proof to your owning of games with sub-par to par graphics you have been moderated so owned times infinity, in your face! Had you not of edited your post you would be crying! enygma500

Who are you?

do you get the feeling that those 2 are actually 1 person also?

No, we are different people. We are friends though

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#46 rogerjak
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[QUOTE="enygma500"][QUOTE="420Token420"]

Who are you?

BPoole96

do you get the feeling that those 2 are actually 1 person also?

No, we are different people. We are friends though

Friends call each other sir?
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#47 americahellyeah
Member since 2006 • 16548 Posts

It's too bad so many people equate photorealism to a great looking game.

I still think Okami is the most beautiful game I've ever seen.

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QFT.. Okami was the best dam looking PS2 game.. hands down! imo... I'd love to see them make a PS3 game with that same art style. Clover rip though :cry:
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#48 skp_16
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Graphics aren't everything. It's not even important to me. In fact, I don't like really nice graphics.

Graphics should suit the game. The kind of graphics I prefer is Saints Row 2 graphics. :)

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#49 zeriva
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It's too bad so many people equate photorealism to a great looking game.

I still think Okami is the most beautiful game I've ever seen.

Scianix-Black
Finally someone said it. I 100% agree with you. Could you even imagine how it would look if they made it for the PS3?
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#50 gwf123
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*scratches head* people who say " i dont care about graphics" go play an atari :P cuz if you had a new 60$ game that was 8 bit on the ps3 youd be like LULZ! WUUTTT IS THISSS , and wouldnt even give it a glance because it had out dated graphics at that price lol :P or if uncharted had downgraded graphics , youd be like ;( WHYYY SONYY WHYYYY ! haha :P just my 2 cents :roll: