Why are all PS3 games half built?

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#1 ahmad1990
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Why are all the PS3 exclusive games half built 

Lair - No multiplayer online

Warhawk - No single player

While all the 360 games are better than ever  Mass effect, Too human, bioshock

is it the cell and its difficulty to develop for?

discuss

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#2 firestorm91
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No, I don't mind if Lair dosen't have online multiplayer but I would like SP to be in Warhawk. Remember, we got good games like the 360, we just have to wait for them to come out. Mass Effect dosen't have online either.
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#3 rothman713
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I'm confused.

First you say it's good:

Obvoiusly the cell has big impact on the games. Sony, ibm and toshiba didnt spend 400 million dollar to design the cell so in the end it will be matched up with current multicore processors.ahmad1990

Then you say the difficulty in developing games for a Cell-based console is causing half-built PS3 exclusives.

Well, which one is it?

Discuss. 

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#4 jelopek
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I'm confused.

First you say it's good:

[QUOTE="ahmad1990"]Obvoiusly the cell has big impact on the games. Sony, ibm and toshiba didnt spend 400 million dollar to design the cell so in the end it will be matched up with current multicore processors.rothman713

Then you say the difficulty in developing games for a Cell-based console is causing half-built PS3 exclusives.

Well, which one is it?

Discuss.

Hah !...Wasted !

God job rothman713 

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#5 The_Rick_14
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Warhawk has no single player because during their beta testing everyone thought it was garbage so instead of making you pay $60 for a single player and multiplayer game that you'd never touch the single player anyway....they're focusing on making the multiplayer as awesome as possible and selling it for less.  Not a half done game.

As far as Lair, they could have made some online modes but it's a game built on the story mode.  That's like complaining God of War doesn't have online....makes no sense. 

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#6 rothman713
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[QUOTE="rothman713"]

I'm confused.

First you say it's good:

[QUOTE="ahmad1990"]Obvoiusly the cell has big impact on the games. Sony, ibm and toshiba didnt spend 400 million dollar to design the cell so in the end it will be matched up with current multicore processors.jelopek

Then you say the difficulty in developing games for a Cell-based console is causing half-built PS3 exclusives.

Well, which one is it?

Discuss.

Hah !...Wasted !

God job rothman713

Why thank you :D 

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#7 SephirothsAngel
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i wouldnt really count '2' PS3 games as 'ALL' PS3 games...would you?
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#8 spliffchillum
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I dont think it's that the cell is difficult to program for.. I think most developers have gotten too damn lazy and dont want to bother learning another language..

 

Pretty much everything Microsoft designs can be somewhat easy to code for.. WindowsXP/Vista.. Windows Mobile and the 360.. all probably use very similiar architecture..

 

Something new comes along and all the developers cry and moan because it's "different" than what they are used to.. It's lazyness on the developers part.. look at all the crappy ports that came from the 360.. good on the 360, half assed on the ps3..

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#9 pimperjones
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Since when does every game in the galaxy require online play?

It's like when all the 360 fanboys ragged on Virtua Fighter 5 having no online on PS3, then Sega annouces that 360 also won't have online. Not every game requires full online playability, many online games are half built while many non online games are the real deal.

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#10 killerkane246
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Factor five already stated in their interviews that the lair sequal will be online.  "This is just a taste for whats to come"
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#11 Sully28
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Console gammers.......

Your lucky you arent a PC gamer or else you would be the biggest whiner.

Battlefield2 is all multiplayer, its singleplayer is just training for noobs.

Hitman never has had multiplayer and is still one great game.

Honestly if you dont like it than sell your ps3, we dont need to hear your sadness.

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#13 felipealcar
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Virtua tennis 3 por PS3 doesn't have online features, xbox does
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#14 komradandre
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when you say these games are half built that's just like saying a can of chicken noodle soup has no beans in it. It's just how chicken noodle soup is. Like how, as previously mentioned, God of War has no Multilayer.
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#15 sm66612
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Why are all the PS3 exclusive games half built

Lair - No multiplayer online

Warhawk - No single player

While all the 360 games are better than ever Mass effect, Too human, bioshock

is it the cell and its difficulty to develop for?

discuss

ahmad1990

None of those games interest me. I will probably try out bioshock when it comes to the PS3 if it has good reviews.;)

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#16 kenshinhimura16
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Console gammers.......

Your lucky you arent a PC gamer or else you would be the biggest whiner.

Battlefield2 is all multiplayer, its singleplayer is just training for noobs.

Hitman never has had multiplayer and is still one great game.

Honestly if you dont like it than sell your ps3, we dont need to hear your sadness.

Sully28

So if you dont like consoles what are you doing here? 

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#17 bubnux
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Half built or rushed to store shelves, right now the good development houses are learning to bleed the potential we all know is present in PS3 and have rushed a few titles out as they know consumers are hungry for software and will make the purchase. 360 fanboy's for some reason confuse this with with the notion that these launch titles out now represent the limitations of the system, but don't fret. Fall/ Winter and beyond is when the console will prove it's worth.
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#18 chrisjackson85
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i like ps3 games and the console itself.

 

my worry is framerate issues, too many games for the ps3 have this, even the new spiderman, which by looking at it, should never have framerate issues.

nba

call of duty

oblivion

im sure there ARE more, but for ps3 being the biggest console out there with whats inside, this problem should not be happening, although it continues to....

i will keep my eye on better framerated games for the future.

i do love my ps3 though, this is not a rant... just pointing it out and its something as a ps3 owner, am worried about. 

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#19 spliffchillum
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i like ps3 games and the console itself.

 

my worry is framerate issues, too many games for the ps3 have this, even the new spiderman, which by looking at it, should never have framerate issues.

nba

call of duty

oblivion

im sure there ARE more, but for ps3 being the biggest console out there with whats inside, this problem should not be happening, although it continues to....

i will keep my eye on better framerated games for the future.

i do love my ps3 though, this is not a rant... just pointing it out and its something as a ps3 owner, am worried about. 

chrisjackson85

It's because they are crappy, unoptimized ports. Look at Resistance.. absolutely 0 framerate issues. The game was coded for this console and it plays perfectly.

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#20 chrisjackson85
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yep i suppose,

 

i hope they improve on porting then :)

i hope r6v and graw2 will be fine :) 

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#21 UnDeR_Core8905
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Why are you so retarded? Why is it that you didn't know that if LAIR does well in sales, they will make a sequel with online multiplayer? Why is it that you don't realize that warhawk is great without a single player story mode, and that a lot of people like games like that? Why can't you undersstand that the Playstation 3 has much more potential than the X360 and that potential will realized in the near future?
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#22 The_Rick_14
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Virtua tennis 3 por PS3 doesn't have online features, xbox doesfelipealcar

Which is the only example.  So what's your point here?

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#23 Sgt_Hale
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Lair doesn't need multiplayer... just like NG, DMC, GTA, and GOW didn't need multiplayer to still be great games. Warhawk seems like it would've benefitted from a good single player mode.... but still looks like it will deliver one of the deepest online experience of any other online game on consoles so far.

You sound more like a troll... especially with the Lair comment. PS2 owners never expected online with their games... we've always valued strong single player experiences above anything else. That doesn't change with the PS3. Sure online multiplayer adds to the game if it's done well. But that hardly makes it a half done game... you should really quit being a troll. You're wasting your life.

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#24 darkmanure
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Another thread made by a troll to justify his wii and 360 purchase.
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shadow run?  blue dragon?  what are you talking about.  just manipulating what info you present to illicit anger?
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#26 joevfx
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Why are all the PS3 exclusive games half built 

Lair - No multiplayer online

Warhawk - No single player

While all the 360 games are better than ever  Mass effect, Too human, bioshock

is it the cell and its difficulty to develop for?

discuss

ahmad1990

 it has nothing to do with the PS3 its just the DEVs deciding to focus on certain aspects of the game .  they already said if there is a Lair 2 it will most likely have a multiplayer.

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#27 black_awpN1
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It sbecause of the achetecture of the cell. Give devs some time and theyll make some stellar stuff.
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#28 junk56
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[QUOTE="ahmad1990"]

Why are all the PS3 exclusive games half built

Lair - No multiplayer online

Warhawk - No single player

While all the 360 games are better than ever Mass effect, Too human, bioshock

is it the cell and its difficulty to develop for?

discuss

sm66612

None of those games interest me. I will probably try out bioshock when it comes to the PS3 if it has good reviews.;)

All those games include guns, shiny armor and lots of blood. I'm sick of those kinds of games. I mean name one game that's coming to the 360 that doesn't include bulky shiny armored people. (rhetorical). BTW a lot of games dont need online to rock. Oblivion and God of War. I mean at least the people in Sony have creative minds to create new things than just massive blood and shooting.  

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#29 Gordon_Slaveman
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yep i suppose,

 

i hope they improve on porting then :)

i hope r6v and graw2 will be fine :)

chrisjackson85

they won't be 

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#30 9thwardice
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lets see halo armor, bioshock armor, mass effect armor, too human armor, gears of war armor wow youre right. those are all the games that come to my mind when i think about 360. tsc tsc tsc they know they could have thought of something original besides armor armor armor
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lets see halo armor, bioshock armor, mass effect armor, too human armor, gears of war armor wow youre right. those are all the games that come to my mind when i think about 360. tsc tsc tsc they know they could have thought of something original besides armor armor armor9thwardice

if only they made armor that could successful combat the Ring of Death attack lol