Why are most games for PS3 not supporting 1080p?

Every game for the xbox 360 supports 1080p why not PS3 isn't it supposed to be the superior console visually? I get frustrated having a tv that is full HD and not being able to have my games run at 1080p. Anybody get why game companies are doing this?

The 360 has a chip made specifically to upscale all games, the PS3 leaves it up to the developer to program their games to upscale off the CPU....it's simply comes down to system resources.

It really doesn't matter anyways considering most games look the best at their native resolution, which is almost always 720p. Upscaling = Loss of quality in most cases.

actually neither supports true 1080p. what the 360 does is upscale the resolution. The ps3 tends not to do this for most games because it is not as powerful as the 360. (im not trying to start anything just ignore that bit if u dont believe me). Either way neither consoles support true 1080p. the actual rez they both display at is 1280x720 (720p). you can force ur ps3 to go to 1920x1080 (1080p), but it will lag severly on many games that do not support it.

Upscaling does not really do anything, not really a big deal, Sony just wanted games on native 720p or 1080p instead of this whole upscale bs. Sorry, the PS3 is more powerful then the 360. If you force 1080p, nothing will lag in games, just watch the Cryengine 3/Crysis 2 tech demo which does show the PS3 having the upper hand.

Games that are native 1080p= Wipeout HD, Heavy Rain.

^There is a lot of fail up there.

Upscaling does not really do anything, not really a big deal, Sony just wanted games on native 720p or 1080p instead of this whole upscale bs. Sorry, the PS3 is more powerful then the 360. If you force 1080p, nothing will lag in games, just watch the Cryengine 3/Crysis 2 tech demo which does show the PS3 having the upper hand.

Games that are native 1080p= Wipeout HD, Heavy Rain.

^There is a lot of fail up there.

ryokinshin6x3

If I 'force' 1080p on the PS3 most games will simply show at 480 so I really don't know what you're talking about....and really I don't see what the Crysis demo has anything with the PS3's ability to upscale games..... This whole thing has nothing to do with being more powerful, it's simply that the 360 has a dedicated chip for upscaling the PS3 doesn't.

Funny how a simple question with a simple awnser gets turned into allout fanboy war....

Forcing 1080p means taking away the 480p option if you TV or monitor allows, and I was only responding to painguy1. Like I also said, upscaling does not really do anything.ryokinshin6x3

The only way you wouldn't have 480 as a locked choice is if it was a PAL system and it didn't have 480 at all.....

Lol, you want to argue and think you're right, go right ahead. His question is answered. Like I said, I have seen this done on a TV before, but it does not really matter as upscaling does not really do anything. 1080p native games are the only ones the matter when talking about 720p vs 1080p.

Relax gentlemen, you are both wrong. The best way to play any game is to hook it up to my big flat screen and take a few shots of tequila. You won't even care if its running progressive scan or interlaced. And upscaling is not FTW.

Relax gentlemen, you are both wrong. The best way to play any game is to hook it up to my big flat screen and take a few shots of tequila. You won't even care if its running progressive scan or interlaced. And upscaling is not FTW.

Turduckendear

I said upscaling does not REALLY do anything, no one reads anymore. ryokinshin6x3

I can see the difference upscaling makes, it's not big, but it's still there.

lol just give it up....

[QUOTE="ryokinshin6x3"]Forcing 1080p means taking away the 480p option if you TV or monitor allows, and I was only responding to painguy1. Like I also said, upscaling does not really do anything.Ilikemyname420

Are we talking about upscaling DVDs? No, and how good you upscale a DVD depends on the chip. Not worth worrying about when there are actual 1080p native games. TC was wondering, and I said there are 1080p native games that look much better in comparison. Devs don't want to bother with something like that. Such a failure, go be uneducated somewhere else, in a blind test, you would not be able to tell.

Native GAMES>Upscaling.

^No, if you upscale to a resolution, it's that resolution.

That's fantastic but the original question is why it doesn't support 1080p compared to the 360.... which would basically be asking why most games don't support upscaling.....everyone already knows that native 1080p games look better than an upscaled game...I don't even know how that got brought up...

I don't even know why you bother responding, painguy1 was trolling, and you start arguing for no reason. Sorry if you can't get past your own bs. I'm not even disagreeing with you except that fact that I have seen a TV that could force 1080p on the PS3 and not have negatives like running in 480p.

1080p upscaling will look better, no matter PS3 or 360. Red Faction: Guerilla for example. Upscaled to 1080p on PS3 and looks better then the native 720p.ryokinshin6x3

1080p upscaling will look better, no matter PS3 or 360. Red Faction: Guerilla for example. Upscaled to 1080p on PS3 and looks better then the native 720p.ryokinshin6x3

Red Faction: Guerrilla looks blurry and stretched at 1080p, I always play it at 720p.

That may not be the game's fault. On a Samsung 216BW monitor, it looks much better on 1080p upscaled. Could depend on the Tv or monitor you use.

Because the PS3 can't handle it, though some PS3 games can, anything lower means it'll upscale to fit the screen, look at this list of PS3 games, most PSN games can handle it, and remember, 1920x1080 is 1080p. Link is here. And for the record, most 360 games that support 1080p are upscaled to it, not run native to it.

Playstation 3

50 Cent = 1280x720 (blur filter)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (QAA)
Alone in the Dark = 1120x630 (no AA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 680p (no AA, blur filter)
Bourne Conspiracy, The (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1024x720 (QAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Darkness, The (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x1080
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Far Cry 2 = 1274x692 (QAA, centered on 720p window)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Fracture = 1152x648 (no AA)
Ghostbusters = 960x540 (QAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
Godfather II = 1200x720 (blur filter)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1080p mode is 1280x1080 (2xAA) in-game while the garage/pit/showrooms are 1920x1080 with no AA. 720p mode is 1280x720 (4xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1040x585 (no AA)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (no AA, slight blur filter)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 640p (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 960x720 (QAA)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (no AA)
MK vs DC = 1024x576 (QAA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) - The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders
MLB09: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) or 1920x1080 (no AA)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (QAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (no AA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-QAA)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Resistance 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA - GDC09 slides)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (no AA)
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1280x720 when sub-HD output selected, 1920x1080 for any HD output (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (QAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (no AA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha blend)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1024x576 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (blur filter)
Soul Calibur IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1280x576 in 1080p mode
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (no AA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 630p in up-close character view?
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1280x720 (QAA)
Tom Clancy's EndWar = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tom Clancy's HAWX = 1280x720 (no AA, horizontal blur)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA) - les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artifact it seems that it is the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
WALL E = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (no AA)

PSN GAMES

1942: Joint Strike = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Blast Factor = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Bionic Commando: Rearmed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Calling All Cars (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Commando 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Echochrome = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Elefunk = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Forbidden Siren = 1024x512 (4xAA)
Go Puzzle = 1920x1080
GTHD = 1440x1080 (no AA) - Vehicle selection is rendered at 1920x1080
High Velocity Bowling = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Locoroco Cocoreccho = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Mainichi Issyo = 1440x1080 (4xAA)
Pixel Junk Monsters/Racers/Eden = 1920x1080
Rocketmen = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Rub'a'dub = 1600x1080 (no AA)
Snakeball = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Stardust HD = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Sudoku = 1920x1080
Super Rub-a-Dub = 1600x1080
Tekken 5 Dark Ressurection (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA), not always?
Warhawk = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Wipeout HD = dynamic-framerate-dependent 1080p framebuffer (1280x1080 to 1920x1080)
Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)

not all 360 games support 1080p most of their native is 720p and the console just upscale it to 1080p.funsohng

You just defined "supports 1080p". This thread blows.

god of war 3 will be 1080p native.

god of war 3 will be 1080p native.

adizorz

Just because a game is native 1080p does not mean it's better then games that are 720p. Anyone that would take 360 over PS3 because of upscaling can go back into their holes. Anyone who also thinks this is a reason 360 hardware is better may do the same. Upscaling is suppose to just give a little improvement when you have a 1080p native screen. Sometime, depending on the TV, it may look worse and there are reasons for that. TC asked why, because 360 has upscaler chip and PS3 doesn't although programmers can make it upscale, simple as that. Does it really matter? No, there is barely any difference/end thread please, this has gone on for way too long.

^GOW3+Heavy Rain, if they get Crysis 2 and (better then Cryengine 3 looking)Rage running that res, would be also very good. If they get it at that res with 8xaa that would be a nice in your face to PCs.

People are just too lazy to develop games in a true 1080p resolution. Only a few games have this, and you'll notice they're usually the ones that they know will do great on the market, so it's actually worth the effort and money. No point in wasting the extra time and labor for 1080p for a game that might flop. Upscaling 720p to 1080p basically makes the image look like stretched out crap, which is why the PS3 doesn't really do that. The native resolution is the best resolution to play a game in.

actually neither supports true 1080p. what the 360 does is upscale the resolution. The ps3 tends not to do this for most games because it is not as powerful as the 360. (im not trying to start anything just ignore that bit if u dont believe me). Either way neither consoles support true 1080p. the actual rez they both display at is 1280x720 (720p). you can force ur ps3 to go to 1920x1080 (1080p), but it will lag severly on many games that do not support it.

painguy1

LMFAO i need some of what you just toked

/ignore

[QUOTE="funsohng"]not all 360 games support 1080p most of their native is 720p and the console just upscale it to 1080p.Large_Soda

You just defined "supports 1080p". This thread blows.

I'm so glad people know about this stuff around here, becomes some people actually think Metal Gear Solid 4 runs in 1080p.:lol:

The ps3's hardware is technically superior to the 360's, but it was so poorly designed that it preformes alot worse than the 360. Also the ps3 version of cryengine did not contain much shooting or particle effects as much as the 360's. im not going to argue over the cryengine 3 because im going to stick to playing the superior PC version so w/e. And upscaling is CPU intensive btw

The ps3's hardware is technically superior to the 360's, but it was so poorly designed that it preformes alot worse than the 360. Also the ps3 version of cryengine did not contain much shooting or particle effects as much as the 360's. im not going to argue over the cryengine 3 because im going to stick to playing the superior PC version so w/e. And upscaling is CPU intensive btw

painguy1

this thread was just starting to settle down, whyd you have to go and do that?

I dunt really care... my TV only does 1080i :?

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

The ps3's hardware is technically superior to the 360's, but it was so poorly designed that it preformes alot worse than the 360. Also the ps3 version of cryengine did not contain much shooting or particle effects as much as the 360's. im not going to argue over the cryengine 3 because im going to stick to playing the superior PC version so w/e. And upscaling is CPU intensive btw

TehSonofUgly

this thread was just starting to settle down, whyd you have to go and do that?

Im sorry :P

good question

there is a very serious thread like this on the playstation boards

look it up for a very interesting read

Sorry, the PS3 is more powerful then the 360.

ryokinshin6x3

lol, credibility has been lost.

Well, I see the lack of intelligence as usual. No one cares to understand or wants to. Just likes to take the bs home with them.

Well, I see the lack of intelligence as usual. No one cares to understand or wants to. Just likes to take the bs home with them.

ryokinshin6x3

Just cause I say, PS3 has better hardware I lose credibility, no why, no how, I'm just wrong. Yea thanks.......ryokinshin6x3

I kinda figured it had to do with the developers. My friend was wondering the same thing about the 1080p thing. I owuldnt know honestly since I dont have a nice HDTV yet.

I do have my reasons, they are based on facts. I'm not telling you PS3 is so much better it's going to destroy the 360, but it has an edge. System wars is for people who don't play games and argue, PM if you want.

Effort needed into putting upscaling when there is no upscaling chip would be considered not worth it. Wether native or upscaled looks better depends on your output devices. Monitors seem to take upscaled content well, while some people have had poor experiences with their TVs.