Why are people so averse to PSN+?

I mean, PSN+ is a sweet deal. There are games I get for free that I wouldn't normally pay. You know what? They are great games. I got Sam and Max, and I had previously tried the demo and didn't really like it. The bundle was like $20 anyway. Putting it out on PSN+ for free got me to give it a second chance and I liked it so much I actually PAID $20 for Tales of Monkey Island. Now I'm playing Stacking, which is priced at $15. It's another game I wouldn't have thought to try if it weren't free but I like.

So, why don't people like the idea of paying for PSN+ which offers deals like these? I mean, I think it actually pays for itself.

Money.

You're paying £40 upfront, and although they give you free stuff (which i'm pretty sure gets locked if you unsubscribe), the 'discounts' still involve you paying. It's a nice idea, i just can't afford it. However, if they threw in voice-chat, i'm sure i could summon up the pennies to get it...

Its good for people who enjoy playing psn games alot. But for people like me, its CRAP

Cause it seems like no matter what people like to complain about things. Blackjack9288

Exactly! Give 100 people 1 million dollars and at least 1 person will complain about it some how.

It reminds me of the Super Bowl this year. 400 people didn't have seats because the NFL over sold tickets because they thought they could get the seats up in time for the game, but they weren't able to.

As compenstation to these 400 people the NFL gave them

• $2400 cash (3 times the face value of their tickets).
• Allowed them to still enter the game and view it from theluxury boxes behind the Steelers bench.
• All food and drinks were free for them for the whole game.
• They were allowed to be on the field after the game.
• They got free merchandise such as hats and shirts from the super bowl.
• They were told they could pick any future Super Bowl to attend and they would be an NFL guest of honor for that Super Bowl as well as having all travel and expenses paid for.

Two people are still trying to sue the NFL over their situation.

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

I just got the 15 month deal and I am happy with it. It's less than 3.50 a month, so basically I just got Stacking and Spyro 2 for 3.50.

Over the last few months I've noticed a lot of really good PS1 games offered with the service at no additional charge and I love this as well because I put them on the PSP and my daughter doesn't whine about wanting to play PS3 when I am watching TV.

I guess if you have an interest in building a collection on your HD it's a great service, if you're just looking to play the current gen stuff probably not worth it.

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

c_rake

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

c_rake

[QUOTE="c_rake"]

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

tjoeb123

PSN+ isn't free despite what Sony wants you to think.

Cause it seems like no matter what people like to complain about things. Blackjack9288

[QUOTE="Blackjack9288"]Cause it seems like no matter what people like to complain about things. CajunShooter

Exactly! Give 100 people 1 million dollars and at least 1 person will complain about it some how.

It reminds me of the Super Bowl this year. 400 people didn't have seats because the NFL over sold tickets because they thought they could get the seats up in time for the game, but they weren't able to.

As compenstation to these 400 people the NFL gave them

• $2400 cash (3 times the face value of their tickets).
• Allowed them to still enter the game and view it from theluxury boxes behind the Steelers bench.
• All food and drinks were free for them for the whole game.
• They were allowed to be on the field after the game.
• They got free merchandise such as hats and shirts from the super bowl.
• They were told they could pick any future Super Bowl to attend and they would be an NFL guest of honor for that Super Bowl as well as having all travel and expenses paid for.

Two people are still trying to sue the NFL over their situation.

Probably because they were Steelers fans? :P

A good comparison of PS+ and its free games would be like a cable service. Does anyone complain that they can no longer watch ESPN because they stopped paying their cable bill? The money you spend each month on cable is not paying for the channels but to access to the channels. You aren't paying for games when you purchase PS+. You are paying for access to games. Free games are just 1 of about 5 or 6 different perks that the PS+ service offers you.

CajunShooter

Except with cable, subscribing is the only way to access the channels they offer. With PlayStation Plus, you can just buy the games off the PlayStation Store and keep them. That's where the problem lies for many people. If I want a game I'll just buy it -- that way I don't have to worry about any sort of expiration or something so that I play it on my own time whenever I please.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

A good comparison of PS+ and its free games would be like a cable service. Does anyone complain that they can no longer watch ESPN because they stopped paying their cable bill? The money you spend each month on cable is not paying for the channels but to access to the channels. You aren't paying for games when you purchase PS+. You are paying for access to games. Free games are just 1 of about 5 or 6 different perks that the PS+ service offers you.

c_rake

Except with cable, subscribing is the only way to access the channels they offer. With PlayStation Plus, you can just buy the games off the PlayStation Store and keep them. That's where the problem lies for many people. If I want a game I'll just buy it -- that way I don't have to worry about any sort of expiration or something so that I play it on my own time whenever I please.

It all comes down to disposable income. A year ago I was paying a little more than the annual subscription of Plus just to play online with my 'other' console. I've thoroughly enjoyed my subscription thus far that's included greats (IMO!) like Sam and Max and Stacking, both of which lacked expiration dates. I'll certainly be resubscribing once my current subscription expires.

I don't really care too much for the majority of PSN games or extra's, so it's not worth it to me to pay for it to only get a select few things I might actually want. It does make me worry however, that next gen PSN+ may be all there is. This almost looks like a means for them to test the viability of eventually charging for all online content.

If you have PSN+ you are pirate, renting game is same as pirating imo

If you have PSN+ you are pirate, renting game is same as pirating imo

Zurrur

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If you have PSN+ you are pirate, renting game is same as pirating imo

The-Apostle

PSN+ is worth it. I just like that you get early access to game betas and "free" games. Which are yours as long as you are a member of PS+. If you are big into downloading and make lots of PSN purchases then it is very much worth it. I like PS plus since I kinda like the "throw ins" that they give you.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

A good comparison of PS+ and its free games would be like a cable service. Does anyone complain that they can no longer watch ESPN because they stopped paying their cable bill? The money you spend each month on cable is not paying for the channels but to access to the channels. You aren't paying for games when you purchase PS+. You are paying for access to games. Free games are just 1 of about 5 or 6 different perks that the PS+ service offers you.

c_rake

Except with cable, subscribing is the only way to access the channels they offer. With PlayStation Plus, you can just buy the games off the PlayStation Store and keep them. That's where the problem lies for many people. If I want a game I'll just buy it -- that way I don't have to worry about any sort of expiration or something so that I play it on my own time whenever I please.

I no longer buy PSN games right when they release because usually within 3-6 months they are discounted with PS+

I know you are kinda playing devil's advocate here though

PSN+ is worth it. I just like that you get early access to game betas and "free" games. Which are yours as long as you are a member of PS+. If you are big into downloading and make lots of PSN purchases then it is very much worth it. I like PS plus since I kinda like the "throw ins" that they give you.

Megavideogamer

There is nothing wrong with PSN+. Just that PSN FREE is just so much better value for money. RD_Nukem

So for me, I make back my $50. Save more money on top of that. I also get to try out other games for free that I would have never spent money on. Throw in automatic downloads, early access to betas, etc and I feel like it has actually been more beneficial than just PSN for free, because I would have paid more for some of the PSN games I've bought recently.

If you have PSN+ you are pirate, renting game is same as pirating imo

Zurrur

Its good for people who enjoy playing psn games alot. But for people like me, its CRAP

redskins2156

Agreed with u on that.

I'm opposed to PSN+ because it seems like nothing but a fishing expedition used by Sony to see if they can get away with charging everyone for online.

I bought the system because of the free online and if they want to charge for it, I'm not interested.

People seem to go on about the free games but they're only free while you have your subscription, so big deal.

They can't afford, it doesn't get any simplier than that.

I'm opposed to PSN+ because it seems like nothing but a fishing expedition used by Sony to see if they can get away with charging everyone for online.

I bought the system because of the free online and if they want to charge for it, I'm not interested.

People seem to go on about the free games but they're only free while you have your subscription, so big deal.

d_parker

As others have said, PSN games tend to lose their reply value after a couple weeks. Also, I get about 5-10 games a year on PSN usually, but this year I've got like around 15-20 I think. A few I paid for. That's because of PSN+.

PSN games loose my attention after only playing them ones or twice. Actually many Disc based games are having that effect on me too. I am finding out that I am using my PS3 Slim more as a multimedia system and watching Netflix, DVD's, Blu-Rays and videos I download online.

Because a Sony employee came to my house, held a gun to my head, and made me paid 50 bucks for this against my will even though it sucks.:roll:

Seriously, you're not bring forced to buy it, it' a good deal for those who want to buy it, if you don't want to buy PS+, then DON'T!

Because a Sony employee came to my house, held a gun to my head, and made me paid 50 bucks for this against my will even though it sucks.:roll:

Seriously, you're not bring forced to buy it, it' a good deal for those who want to buy it, if you don't want to buy PS+, then DON'T!

StealthMonkey4

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Because a Sony employee came to my house, held a gun to my head, and made me paid 50 bucks for this against my will even though it sucks.:roll:

Seriously, you're not bring forced to buy it, it' a good deal for those who want to buy it, if you don't want to buy PS+, then DON'T!

guynamedbilly

I know... that's kinda the point of posting... why would I post something unrelated in the topic?

I know... that's kinda the point of posting... why would I post something unrelated in the topic?StealthMonkey4

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]I know... that's kinda the point of posting... why would I post something unrelated in the topic?guynamedbilly

I was just saying their reason doesn't matter as no one is forcing them to. The topic guidelines aren't that strict... that wasn't OT at all...

Its good for people who enjoy playing psn games alot. But for people like me, its CRAP

redskins2156

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

c_rake

pretty much my opinon as well

The fact that those free games are taken away from you the second you un-subscribe is probably the big issue. Not sure how that works, exactly (do they get removed from your console or is it just your download privileges that are revoked?), but that's a strong enough reason for anyone not to take the jump.

Personally, I think it looks like a fine service. I wouldn't subscribe to it, though, only because I'm plenty content with the basic service offers.

c_rake