why did killzone 2 flop?

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#1 hyperjayson
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im not starting a flame war here but i always see comments on the net saying that killzone 2 is the best FPS ever, i personally never played it as i mostly just play TPS, e.g MGS4, RDR, GTA4, it sold 675,000 in a year, in contrast halo odst sold 2,000,000 in one day please dont ban me
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#2 Falkien123
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???? It wasn't a flop and it is one of the best looking FPS out there. It is different and it is totally improved from Killzone 1. Why would you compare TPS to FPS in the first place.

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#3 hyperjayson
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???? It wasn't a flop and it is one of the best looking FPS out there. It is different and it is totally improved from Killzone 1. Why would you compare TPS to FPS in the first place.

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it was a flop because it had extremely low sales, thats what a flop means,
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#4 JKnaperek
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It didn't flop. The comments on the web saying "Killzone 2 is the best fps" are opinions and should be taken as such. Halo has a much much bigger fanbase than Killzone which is why it sold more. And if you don't want to create a flame war then don't make topics that would create one.
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#5 zbdyx
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It flopped in my heart. I enjoyed Killzone 1 so much more than 2.
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#6 Legendaryscmt
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[QUOTE="Falkien123"]

???? It wasn't a flop and it is one of the best looking FPS out there. It is different and it is totally improved from Killzone 1. Why would you compare TPS to FPS in the first place.

hyperjayson

it was a flop because it had extremely low sales, thats what a flop means,

A flop is a game that doesn't meet its hype. Killzone met its hype on GS.

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#7 hyperjayson
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"][QUOTE="Falkien123"]

???? It wasn't a flop and it is one of the best looking FPS out there. It is different and it is totally improved from Killzone 1. Why would you compare TPS to FPS in the first place.

Legendaryscmt

it was a flop because it had extremely low sales, thats what a flop means,

A flop is a game that doesn't meet its hype. Killzone met its hype on GS.

on sales tho... you see people b4 kz2 launch screaming and shouting, then youd think "is this it? is this the game that finally gonna outsell halo?" then launch day goes and nobody buys it....
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#8 davidkamayor
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im not starting a flame war here but i always see comments on the net saying that killzone 2 is the best FPS ever, i personally never played it as i mostly just play TPS, e.g MGS4, RDR, GTA4, it sold 675,000 in a year, in contrast halo odst sold 2,000,000 in one day please dont ban mehyperjayson

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#9 ReaperV7
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killzone 2 was not a flop. It sold well and is still selling. It won multiple awards ranging from best shooter of 2009 to best online multiplayer of 2009 here on gamespot. btw keep posting threads like this in these forums and you won't be around much longer.

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#10 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]im not starting a flame war here but i always see comments on the net saying that killzone 2 is the best FPS ever, i personally never played it as i mostly just play TPS, e.g MGS4, RDR, GTA4, it sold 675,000 in a year, in contrast halo odst sold 2,000,000 in one day please dont ban me

flopping is about scores here. Killzone 2 was hyped AAA, it scored AAA. Thus, not a flop. No one here cares about sales because none of us are Jack Tretton... If you want to talk to some people who act like they care about sales I would suggest system wars.
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#11 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="hyperjayson"] it was a flop because it had extremely low sales, thats what a flop means, hyperjayson

A flop is a game that doesn't meet its hype. Killzone met its hype on GS.

on sales tho... you see people b4 kz2 launch screaming and shouting, then youd think "is this it? is this the game that finally gonna outsell halo?" then launch day goes and nobody buys it....

Not sales mate. Stop argueing with people that know what their talking about. A game flops when it is hyped based on its score. The game was hyped to get either a 9 or above and it got a 9. The game has around 2.7 million copies sold so far and that is not bad at all compared to the majority of games. If you keep argueing then I will know that you are simply here to bother us.

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#12 Floppy_Jim
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it sold 675,000 in a yearhyperjayson
Prove it then.
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#13 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]it sold 675,000 in a yearFloppy_Jim
Prove it then.

Dont feed him.

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#14 hyperjayson
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]it sold 675,000 in a yearFloppy_Jim
Prove it then.

vgchartz.com
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#15 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="hyperjayson"]it sold 675,000 in a yearRadecSupreme

Prove it then.

Dont feed him.

Just because...

Killzone 2 topped 1 million in 3 months.

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#16 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="hyperjayson"]it sold 675,000 in a yearhyperjayson
Prove it then.

vgchartz.com

ahaha lmao. sorry dude, vgchartz is never an accurate source. NPD numbers are a million times more accurate.
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#17 superiorNilly
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It flopped in my heart. I enjoyed Killzone 1 so much more than 2.zbdyx

Agree. Lets hope Killzone 3 steps it up.

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#18 Floppy_Jim
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VGChartz.com-

2.33 million

This thread isn't going too well.

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#19 bobbleheadrogue
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]it sold 675,000 in a yearFloppy_Jim
Prove it then.

it actually sold more than a million by the end of Jun 2009 and was announced as a platinum game in early february 2010 :P
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#20 supa_badman
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TC got owned. :lol:
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#21 ExoticAnimal
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I was gonna use the "It was ahead of its time" argument but I think I'll stick with the 2.33 million copies sold argument. lol
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#22 Legolas_Katarn
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[QUOTE="zbdyx"]It flopped in my heart. I enjoyed Killzone 1 so much more than 2.superiorNilly

Agree. Lets hope Killzone 3 steps it up.

Same here. I hated the single player, really enjoyed the mutiplayer though.
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#23 zbdyx
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[QUOTE="superiorNilly"]

[QUOTE="zbdyx"]It flopped in my heart. I enjoyed Killzone 1 so much more than 2.Legolas_Katarn

Agree. Lets hope Killzone 3 steps it up.

Same here. I hated the single player, really enjoyed the mutiplayer though.

I'm not alone! :D. Oh, and as far is it flopping, 1 million is great in sales, I think it's at 2? This game was hyped like no other though. There should be more people buying games and less talking about them.
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#24 VPW64Mst
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I personally do not think that Killzone 2 is or was a flop. It sold reasonably well, it lived up to the hype it amassed in the years prior to its release and set a new graphical standard on release, which has only been trumped (in my opinion) by Uncharted 2 and God of War III. I do not believe that a game should be judged on sales alone. Yes, they give an idea of how popular a game is, but not necessarily the quality. Halo 3: ODST sold extraordinarily well due to the large Halo fanbase that has been established since 2000 or 2001 (I don't remember when Halo: Combat Evolved was released). This was despite the recycled Halo 3 game engine, which was outdated by approximately two years, and a short story (according to user reviews on Metacritic). The dedication of the Halo community is evident. The original Killzone did not do so well due to glitches, sluggish controls and other technical issues (but I still loved the game). As a result, a large fanbase was not established, and hence Killzone 2 did not sell as well as Halo 3: ODST. Of course, this is not the only reason that Killzone 2 did not sell as well, but it is a contributing factor. The other major reason (in my opinion) was a lack of advertising. I saw no advertising whatsoever for Killzone 2 on television, on billboards, or anywhere outside of the internet. Hopefully Sony flaunts Killzone 3 globally, to show its technical prowess, and what it offers for hardcore gamers buzzing around PSN. Anyway, I don't think Killzone 2 was a flop. It was a solid game with a decent campaign, a great multiplayer and breathtaking visuals. It is subject to universal acclaim, and Guerilla Games will continue the experience in full stereoscopic 3D, with Playstation Move in February 2011. Cannot wait for Killzone 3.
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#25 WartBoy95
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It just looked good, and it was an OK game, gameplay wise. It didn't really flop. Plus the first one sucked.

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#26 lightleggy
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im not starting a flame war here but i always see comments on the net saying that killzone 2 is the best FPS ever, i personally never played it as i mostly just play TPS, e.g MGS4, RDR, GTA4, it sold 675,000 in a year, in contrast halo odst sold 2,000,000 in one day please dont ban mehyperjayson

1st: it didnt flopped, it met its hype, its a great and intense game with great graphics and extremely enjoyable.

second: it didnt sold 675000 in a year, stop checking vgchartz cus it sucks...the game sold over 1 million copies in 3 months and that is great. the game still sell good, I bougt my copy 4 days ago and I think its a great game

3rd: you are comparing it to HALO...in case you dont know, if you put HALO on any videogame...it will instantly sell over 1 million copies on launch, and same for mario, they are so awfully overrated with such a rabid fanbase.

4th: you are getting banned

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#27 CTR360
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because ps3 ownewrs like better cod games killzone2 for me the best fps on ps3 and this gen so far sales mean nothing for me
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#28 Tropictrain
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Comparing the sales of a shooter game to Halo is like comparing platformers to Mario, just like someone else kind ofsaid anyway.The competition doesn't stand a chance at matching those sales. But judging by the comments here, the sales figures proposed in the original post aren't accurate anyway.

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#29 nightshade869
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So much pwning going on right now
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#30 tommyas
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Halo sells more because its much easierto just pick up and play. Its also played by kids. Just like Call of Duty series. Killzone 2 is imo one of the best FPS games this gen but its very tough to get into it. Thats why I think it didnt sell that much.
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#31 jshaas
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]im not starting a flame war here but i always see comments on the net saying that killzone 2 is the best FPS ever, i personally never played it as i mostly just play TPS, e.g MGS4, RDR, GTA4, it sold 675,000 in a year, in contrast halo odst sold 2,000,000 in one day please dont ban me

For starters, you shouldn't come in here spouting incorrect "facts" about a game that you've never played. For your ODST comparison... how many more 360's have been sold than PS3's? I don't know the exact number, but I know it's in the millions... which would cover the sales gap between ODST and KZ2. As most have already told you... KZ2 lived up to the hype, and sold very well. Therefore it's not a flop by any stretch of the imagination. It still sells well... mostly due to how many people got MW2 and hated it, and needed a good shooter to play. So, with all the comments here I suggest you go pick it up. It's only $30 now... you'll love it.