Why did the reviewer for Kane and Lynch get fired but not...

K&L is garbage!!!

A) beacause Ratchet and Clank was barley an improvemnets on last gen version even though sony were touting it as the greatest technical achievement to date---------------Although Halo 3 scored high and sucked worse then before.

B) Uncharted is very unusual and get mixed reviews acroos the board.

C) The reviewer of Kane and lynch was just blatently unfair and provided little to no reason for his awarding of such a low score

I just went to Metacritic, where they average all the reviews for a game together, and it got a 65/100. So Gamespot looks like they did a pretty good job. Also, the user reviews averaged out to a 3.8 here on Gamespot, so I don't know why you think the reviewer at Gamspot was blatantly unfair. He seemed to give plenty of good reasons, that are supported by the gaming community.

Did this guy actually get fired? How do you know?

I just went to Metacritic, where they average all the reviews for a game together, and it got a 65/100. So Gamespot looks like they did a pretty good job. Also, the user reviews averaged out to a 3.8 here on Gamespot, so I don't know why you think the reviewer at Gamspot was blatantly unfair. He seemed to give plenty of good reasons, that are supported by the gaming community.

Did this guy actually get fired? How do you know?

CzarKingKaiser

I just went to Metacritic, where they average all the reviews for a game together, and it got a 65/100. So Gamespot looks like they did a pretty good job. Also, the user reviews averaged out to a 3.8 here on Gamespot, so I don't know why you think the reviewer at Gamspot was blatantly unfair. He seemed to give plenty of good reasons, that are supported by the gaming community.

Did this guy actually get fired? How do you know?

CzarKingKaiser

As far as the review goes, he really didn't bash on the game to much and gave it good praises for what it was trying to accomplish, i guess people thought the score didn't match the review. Also that 3.8 user score cannot be trusted now.

Kane and Lynch got the rating it deserved.HOWEVER, the retarded reviewer who gave Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank Future, should've been the one who should gethis a**fired. GameSpot is losing its fame for this.Haku_Ryushi

I just went to Metacritic, where they average all the reviews for a game together, and it got a 65/100. So Gamespot looks like they did a pretty good job. Also, the user reviews averaged out to a 3.8 here on Gamespot, so I don't know why you think the reviewer at Gamspot was blatantly unfair. He seemed to give plenty of good reasons, that are supported by the gaming community.

Did this guy actually get fired? How do you know?

CzarKingKaiser

The only thing the review touched on was the bad lanhuage and ugly charcters the gameplay mechanics are solid although the characters could have been more developed.

Also if u read many of the reviews most of them openly admit to not playing the game but are just sympathetic for the reviewer

Not the best moment for Gamespot. This type of hype at the expense of an individual employee is in bad taste. Freedom of the Press is something we all cherish and want protected. An internal problem which has now gone public, is not the best advertisement for Gamespot. It is the reviews that gamespot airs that keep bringing gamers back. The reviews of Kane and Lynch across the board were not the best. On the whole, a 6.5 out of 10. The firing had to be more than just one review, but the matter would have been better settled in house with respect to the employee. Shame on Gamespot, or is this just a ploy to arouse us gamers to come to his defense?

Not the best moment for Gamespot. This type of hype at the expense of an individual employee is in bad taste. Freedom of the Press is something we all cherish and want protected. An internal problem which has now gone public, is not the best advertisement for Gamespot. It is the reviews that gamespot airs that keep bringing gamers back. The reviews of Kane and Lynch across the board were not the best. On the whole, a 6.5 out of 10. The firing had to be more than just one review, but the matter would have been better settled in house with respect to the employee. Shame on Gamespot, or is this just a ploy to arouse us gamers to come to his defense?

FlashCharge

Seriously, is there an article or something I can read to clue me in on this?

Uncharted and Ratchet that is.CzarKingKaiser

R&C should have got a nice solid 8 or maybe 8.5

Uncharted definately a 8, at least

i heard the guy got fired on G4tv.com.

his name is Jeff and and he was the best here trust me on that one bartman999

if anything, that's the most true statement yet.

his name is Jeff and and he was the best here trust me on that one bartman999

i heard the guy got fired on G4tv.com.

kailman123

thanks man, i'll look into it

here's a link

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/index.html?t=681212#681212

Heres the article in its entirety.

"Longtime Gamespot.com Editorial Director Jeff Gerstmann was reportedly fired recently, and the scuttlebutt on the internets is that he was canned over a less-than-glowing review of Eidos' Kane and Lynch.

Gerstmann gave the high-profile game a 6 out of 10--above average, but just barely--while, at the same time, Eidos advertising skinned the entire Gamespot site. Then,Gerstmann's employment ended, supposedly due to Eidos's unhappiness over the review.

WhileGamespot's message boards are blowing up with flames and comments over the imbroglio (and Eidos apparently having shut theirs down), as of yet there hasn't been any official statement from the people involvedabout the incident(Gamespot, Eidos or Gerstmann), other than a confirmation that Gerstmann no longer works at Gamespot.

Since the sources of the rumor are not too reliable (unnamed employees, game blogs), this is all rumor and speculation right now. Maybe I'm naive, but while it's possiblethat gamespot dissolved the wall between marketing and editorial over one semi-negative review, I can't believe they wouldn't see the harm in permanently damaging their credibility with the gaming community over one opinion.

On the other hand, it's business, and perhaps CNet, the owners of Gamespot, really are that short-sighted. It's not as if game "journalism" has ever had much credibility. We predict it all fizzles into a he-said, she-said situation.

In either case, pop some corn and keep watching. It's going to be a busy day. We'll keep you posted."

If this is true Gamespot should be ashamed of themselves.

thats just stupid.

He did get fired, further shown by Rich Gallup's latest blog.

It also mentions it on wikipedia, someone confirmed it by asking Jeff on myspace.

Seriously like that was what this game seems to be averaging if anything bad reviews have been Assasins Ceed,Ratchet and Clank,Metroid 3:Curruption and The Legend of Zelda:Twilight Princess and they were all had large cries of outrage and no-one got fired.

It seems gamespot has double standards and has just reinforced whyI use Eurogamer,Ign and Gamerrankings which are the besttwo review sites and wellI think everyone knows what gamerankings does.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]Kane and Lynch got the rating it deserved.HOWEVER, the retarded reviewer who gave Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank Future, should've been the one who should gethis a**fired. GameSpot is losing its fame for this.aka_aj03

not sure about the whole crew but R.D. and A.T. shoulda been fired. SONY please act up as EIDOS has done.

Jeff got fired!? Hmmm, im 60/40 on leaving gamespot for good then, because of both the obvious roots of corruption showing, and also the fact that jeff was the only showman left. Stupid choice.Devils_Joker_22

I agree, even though its hard to leave the forums of this site. But as DJ has said the corruption they are showing is disgusting. GS needs to quit being stupid.

the reviewers that gave Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank such a low score? Theyshould get cruxified!ryank285

uh kane and lynch SUX and uncharted got a good score soooo...wtf r u talkin about?

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]Kane and Lynch got the rating it deserved.HOWEVER, the retarded reviewer who gave Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank Future, should've been the one who should gethis a**fired. GameSpot is losing its fame for this.aka_aj03

exactly. GS is losing credibility and fast

[QUOTE="ryank285"]the reviewers that gave Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank such a low score? Theyshould get cruxified!Raiden_69

uh kane and lynch SUX and uncharted got a good score soooo...wtf r u talkin about?

Having a whole letter grade off is considered "Good" score? Nice, guess getting B rather than a deserved A in school means no difference to you then.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]Kane and Lynch got the rating it deserved.HOWEVER, the retarded reviewer who gave Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank Future, should've been the one who should gethis a**fired. GameSpot is losing its fame for this.lhbchen

not sure about the whole crew but R.D. and A.T. shoulda been fired. SONY please act up as EIDOS has done.

no sthat would just make sony look bad. You make a garbage game and threaten the company into firing someone rating said garbage game poorly? thats just sad

R&C should of got a 9.0 and Uncharted definitely should of gotten at least a 9.5Haku_Ryushi

Although I am sure they are fanboy scores, I have to agree with R&C being way underated on GS amd yes it did deserve a 9.0. I don't really bother reading reviews but 7.5 for that game seems very unfair. So far, apart from Virtua Fighter 5, R&C Future is the most fun I have had with a game in quite a long time. I played the demo of Bioshock for example, and thought it was booooring, but i hate FPS games anyway. I don't see how repetitive crap (and more of a chore to play rather than fun IMO) with no artistic style or substance like Gears of War got as high as it did yet a great game like R&C Future got 7.5, it's rubbish.

I will be getting the Japanese release of Uncharted (Treasure of El Dorado as it is called in Japan) next week so I hope I disagree with that score too but seeing as I played through the demo at least 8 times, I am REALLY looking forward to it. I am sick of sites like GS taking scores off PS3 games like Uncharted and Heavenly Sword (not that I intend to buy HS) for being 8 hours long or whatever yet, again, Gears of War gets a 9.6 and has the same length for its single player campaign. Not EVERYONE plays online so I don't see how THAT can make up for a short single player game. If a game is short but a blast to play, it should not affect the score. It sure as hell didn't in the past. People put way too much emphasis on the amount of hours a game is supposed to take to finish. Sure it is comparable to the old days when games were judged on the amount of stages, but 10-12 hours is still OK with me unless it's an RPG. Again, it is the experience during those hours that counts, not the amount a reviewer who blasts through as quickly as possible, says it takes.

[QUOTE="CzarKingKaiser"]

I just went to Metacritic, where they average all the reviews for a game together, and it got a 65/100. So Gamespot looks like they did a pretty good job. Also, the user reviews averaged out to a 3.8 here on Gamespot, so I don't know why you think the reviewer at Gamspot was blatantly unfair. He seemed to give plenty of good reasons, that are supported by the gaming community.

Did this guy actually get fired? How do you know?

ukillwegrill

The only thing the review touched on was the bad lanhuage and ugly charcters the gameplay mechanics are solid although the characters could have been more developed.

Also if u read many of the reviews most of them openly admit to not playing the game but are just sympathetic for the reviewer

He said the gameplay mechanics were not too great and you're forgetting all the bugs and AI problems...It's a mediocre game, get used to it...