Why do people complain how short gameplay is?

I've been reading alot of topics and you get people that say "the game is too short its between 8-12 hours" or just yesterday someone said
"i am not buying no games yet because there all to short".

This seems kinda perfetic to me anyone else agree?
The fact is 8-12 hours a of gameplay is not that short to be honest; if you make games that go on for 15-20+ hours then the story isnt that great
infact they probley drag the story on...
If games are too short then why don't you put them on a really harder level/difficulty?

(sorry that i can't say to much about this i find it hard how i could make my paragrah longer)

So if 8-12 hours is considered to short than how many hours do you consider long?

I've been reading alot of topics and you get people that say "the game is too short its between 8-12 hours" or just yesterday someone said
"i am not buying no games yet because there all to short".

This seems kinda perfetic to me anyone else agree?
The fact is 8-12 hours a of gameplay is not that short to be honest; if you make games that go on for 15-20+ hours then the story isnt that great
infact they probley drag the story on...
If games are too short then why don't you put them on a really harder level/difficulty?

(sorry that i can't say to much about this i find it hard how i could make my paragrah longer)

So if 8-12 hours is considered to short than how many hours do you consider long?

kier1992

People complain about it because they have no life outside of gaming. It really is as simple as that, if you have a job and family and friends, a 8 hour game would take weeks to complete.

I've been reading alot of topics and you get people that say "the game is too short its between 8-12 hours" or just yesterday someone said
"i am not buying no games yet because there all to short".

This seems kinda perfetic to me anyone else agree?
The fact is 8-12 hours a of gameplay is not that short to be honest; if you make games that go on for 15-20+ hours then the story isnt that great
infact they probley drag the story on...
If games are too short then why don't you put them on a really harder level/difficulty?

(sorry that i can't say to much about this i find it hard how i could make my paragrah longer)

So if 8-12 hours is considered to short than how many hours do you consider long?

kier1992

Well, sir! I pay good money that I earned from work to buy a $59.99 game that better be worth it and long in gameplay! That's why HS was not a buy for me and I saved myself $59.99 from it.

You put it in great words for me; codezer0 - i can understand that; but like i said you make a game too long then the story drags on; but i surpose some people don't mind that.. but that's why some games have online tomake up that extra time and hey its all freekier1992

Partly because game prices are rising. And people expect more--which isn't a bad thing. Devs talk about blu ray and larger disc space and better graphics, and all these new things we can do, etc.... I think people get their expectations high and feelthat they should get more for their buck. That's just my opinion.

When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.codezer0

exactly...

[QUOTE="jimmarko21876"][QUOTE="kier1992"]

I've been reading alot of topics and you get people that say "the game is too short its between 8-12 hours" or just yesterday someone said
"i am not buying no games yet because there all to short".

This seems kinda perfetic to me anyone else agree?
The fact is 8-12 hours a of gameplay is not that short to be honest; if you make games that go on for 15-20+ hours then the story isnt that great
infact they probley drag the story on...
If games are too short then why don't you put them on a really harder level/difficulty?

(sorry that i can't say to much about this i find it hard how i could make my paragrah longer)

So if 8-12 hours is considered to short than how many hours do you consider long?

LivingReceiver

People complain about it because they have no life outside of gaming. It really is as simple as that, if you have a job and family and friends, a 8 hour game would take weeks to complete.

This guy is on the money, for all the geeks out there saying "WAAAH HEAVENLY SWORD IS TOO SHORT ITS 8 HOURS WAAAH" go get a girlfriend, get some nookie and let's see if she gives you a standing ovation for how long you lasted. You wont feel so good when she says "15 minutes is too short" or "5 inches is too short"

Sadly for most of you who complain all the time, you probably wont even get that far

HAHAHAHAAH!!!

That was unnecessary. Very funny but, unnecessary

I said it many times and I will say it again....People complain for the sake of complaining. If the game is short and that deterrs you from buying because it "doesn't justify the price" while obviously ignoring things that also need to factor it graphics, story, character depth, plot, etc. So why keep bringing it up? Simple question hard answer.

You don't want it because of the price good for you, now move on with your life and don't complain. However complaining about something you don't want usaully indicates you want it and that your trying to convince yourself (ala complaining) that you don't want it.

These are just my .002 cents

I have a feeling that MANY of those who complain about the length of a game , sure lets us Heavenly Sword as today's example, are pulling their 8 hr stat from a review, not from personal experience. If you have to "hard-earn" $60 to pay for a game, your should probably be concentrating on your school work. Throwing down $60 on a game that last me " 8 hrs" will probably take me 20 because I won't have time to be replaying that level I died in right away. I'll be in bed with my girl, or at working earning a living, or answering legitimate questions that people have on blogs ( usually, in the little spare time I have at work). But, to each-their-own, if you are working at Walmart just to come home and order pizza, roll up a J, and play games until you HAVE to work the next day, pick up Oblivion or a Final Fantasy game, assuring you a MINIMUM 40 hour experience. Personally, I'd recommend finding a new job, finishing school or going back, that way, when you finally get around to wrapping these 8 hour games, you feel like you've REALLY accomplished something... ok, rant finished...._sephex_

I tried to put in a "nicer" way, but I agree with you 100%

As for getting your $60 bucks worth, I feel I am getting it with HS as I am lucky to escape for 1-2 hours a week to play.Work, a newborn, a wife, a house....it all adds up. You really do feel like you have accomplished a major feat when are able to see a game's credits.

[QUOTE="kier1992"]

I've been reading alot of topics and you get people that say "the game is too short its between 8-12 hours" or just yesterday someone said
"i am not buying no games yet because there all to short".

This seems kinda perfetic to me anyone else agree?
The fact is 8-12 hours a of gameplay is not that short to be honest; if you make games that go on for 15-20+ hours then the story isnt that great
infact they probley drag the story on...
If games are too short then why don't you put them on a really harder level/difficulty?

(sorry that i can't say to much about this i find it hard how i could make my paragrah longer)

So if 8-12 hours is considered to short than how many hours do you consider long?

jimmarko21876

People complain about it because they have no life outside of gaming. It really is as simple as that, if you have a job and family and friends, a 8 hour game would take weeks to complete.

I agree with ya man, it took me more then a week to pass HeavelySword i really dont have time to play games all day i have stuff to do outside my house hehehe

When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.codezer0

Bingo. If i'm correct, games cost 100 dollars in Australia...now when you buy a game costing that much you expect a good length of gameplay and maybe even a multiplayer component. But instead they get left with a 6-8 hour game that they can finish in an afternoon.

It's not acceptable.

[QUOTE="_sephex_"]I have a feeling that MANY of those who complain about the length of a game , sure lets us Heavenly Sword as today's example, are pulling their 8 hr stat from a review, not from personal experience. If you have to "hard-earn" $60 to pay for a game, your should probably be concentrating on your school work. Throwing down $60 on a game that last me " 8 hrs" will probably take me 20 because I won't have time to be replaying that level I died in right away. I'll be in bed with my girl, or at working earning a living, or answering legitimate questions that people have on blogs ( usually, in the little spare time I have at work). But, to each-their-own, if you are working at Walmart just to come home and order pizza, roll up a J, and play games until you HAVE to work the next day, pick up Oblivion or a Final Fantasy game, assuring you a MINIMUM 40 hour experience. Personally, I'd recommend finding a new job, finishing school or going back, that way, when you finally get around to wrapping these 8 hour games, you feel like you've REALLY accomplished something... ok, rant finished....trininuyawka

I tried to put in a "nicer" way, but I agree with you 100%

As for getting your $60 bucks worth, I feel I am getting it with HS as I am lucky to escape for 1-2 hours a week to play.Work, a newborn, a wife, a house....it all adds up. You really do feel like you have accomplished a major feat when are able to see a game's credits.

[QUOTE="codezer0"]When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.amapi

Bingo. If i'm correct, games cost 100 dollars in Australia...now when you buy a game costing that much you expect a good length of gameplay and maybe even a multiplayer component. But instead they get left with a 6-8 hour game that they can finish in an afternoon.

It's not acceptable.

It's acceptable to those of us who don't have a free 6 hours to spend gaming at any one time. As for the cost, it's also acceptable to those of us with litte time to play because we don't buy too many game throughout a given year, meaning we don't spend so much money on games to begin with.Over the last year I have bought only 2 games for example.

[QUOTE="trininuyawka"]

[QUOTE="_sephex_"]I have a feeling that MANY of those who complain about the length of a game , sure lets us Heavenly Sword as today's example, are pulling their 8 hr stat from a review, not from personal experience. If you have to "hard-earn" $60 to pay for a game, your should probably be concentrating on your school work. Throwing down $60 on a game that last me " 8 hrs" will probably take me 20 because I won't have time to be replaying that level I died in right away. I'll be in bed with my girl, or at working earning a living, or answering legitimate questions that people have on blogs ( usually, in the little spare time I have at work). But, to each-their-own, if you are working at Walmart just to come home and order pizza, roll up a J, and play games until you HAVE to work the next day, pick up Oblivion or a Final Fantasy game, assuring you a MINIMUM 40 hour experience. Personally, I'd recommend finding a new job, finishing school or going back, that way, when you finally get around to wrapping these 8 hour games, you feel like you've REALLY accomplished something... ok, rant finished...._sephex_

I tried to put in a "nicer" way, but I agree with you 100%

As for getting your $60 bucks worth, I feel I am getting it with HS as I am lucky to escape for 1-2 hours a week to play.Work, a newborn, a wife, a house....it all adds up. You really do feel like you have accomplished a major feat when are able to see a game's credits.

Thanks! Actually you and your brother may have to dog fight in 20 minute intervals if the new mom has anything to say about it. LOL

When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.codezer0

Yes, you are right in a sense. But when plenty of people buy a 2 hour long movie (or 1.5 hour long movie), they pay 20 bucks. So if the game is 8 hours long, which is4 - 6 times longer than a regular movie, 60 dollars is OK.

So I would consider games at 8 hours length to be OK. If it's longer with great story and gameplay, it's great.

I have a feeling that MANY of those who complain about the length of a game , sure lets us Heavenly Sword as today's example, are pulling their 8 hr stat from a review, not from personal experience. If you have to "hard-earn" $60 to pay for a game, your should probably be concentrating on your school work. Throwing down $60 on a game that last me " 8 hrs" will probably take me 20 because I won't have time to be replaying that level I died in right away. I'll be in bed with my girl, or at working earning a living, or answering legitimate questions that people have on blogs ( usually, in the little spare time I have at work). But, to each-their-own, if you are working at Walmart just to come home and order pizza, roll up a J, and play games until you HAVE to work the next day, pick up Oblivion or a Final Fantasy game, assuring you a MINIMUM 40 hour experience. Personally, I'd recommend finding a new job, finishing school or going back, that way, when you finally get around to wrapping these 8 hour games, you feel like you've REALLY accomplished something... ok, rant finished...._sephex_

Agreed...

Because when you like something, in most of the cases, you will want more of it until you get bored. Gameplay that is fun, fundamentally, will give you the urge to play more. In some cases, where gameplay is not the major attraction, but some other things, like the story, the cutscenes, you will probably rush the gameplay in order to get to where you canhave the most satisfaction out of. Is that really hard to gasp?

As one poster already said, some of these gamers have no life whatsoever. No job, no girlfriend or wife, no family (their own family). So all they do is sit up in their room (probably smell like a mixture of feces of all the gas they passed & body odor from not showering) all day long to play a new game and finish it in the same day if not the next. They come back here and bash the game for being short.

On the other hand, most of us can afford games at $60 a pop.

But, personally, I don't want games to be short in length as I could have spent that $60 elsewhere. That is why I haven't bought Heavenly Sword yet.

[QUOTE="amapi"]

[QUOTE="codezer0"]When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.trininuyawka

Bingo. If i'm correct, games cost 100 dollars in Australia...now when you buy a game costing that much you expect a good length of gameplay and maybe even a multiplayer component. But instead they get left with a 6-8 hour game that they can finish in an afternoon.

It's not acceptable.

It's acceptable to those of us who don't have a free 6 hours to spend gaming at any one time. As for the cost, it's also acceptable to those of us with litte time to play because we don't buy too many game throughout a given year, meaning we don't spend so much money on games to begin with.Over the last year I have bought only 2 games for example.

Well as you know, not everyone works, and many people have lots of time. You can still work and have free time, and just because you might not doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

A game like Heavenly Sword for instance isn't exactly hard, nor is it long. In a few sittings, a couple hours or so each and you could finish that game.

And shelling out 60 bucks or whatever amount you have to pay for a really short game is taking the mick frankly...

Sorry, but I like games with a lot of replay value.

And a game can be VERY short and still have a very high replay value, by having a lot of things to unlock and find in the game.
Take a look at DMC3 for example. It was about 8 hours long and still gave in some good replay value.

For an action game, it is normal to have 8 to 12 hours of gameplay. I don't think much action games take much longer than that. It's all about the REPLAY. HS doesn't have any replay value, so that's a pretty bad thing for me.

But for a RPG, my very minimum is 20 hours.

Geeze I remember when Super Mario 3 came out for the original nintendo. I played it straight through right away with my best friend and it took 3 hours tops to beat. Yet it was fun..... :PPenguinGod19

Well as you know, not everyone works, and many people have lots of time. You can still work and have free time, and just because you might not doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

A game like Heavenly Sword for instance isn't exactly hard, nor is it long. In a few sittings, a couple hours or so each and you could finish that game.

And shelling out 60 bucks or whatever amount you have to pay for a really short game is taking the mick frankly...

amapi

Someone who works full time has much more free time than someone going to school.

I work over 40 hours a week, but when I get home, I have not much to do outside of what I want to do, like meeting some friends or playing video games.

Some of my friends are still at the university, and they can't go out after school because they have homeworks to do and things to study. So while they only have like 30 hours of school a week, they have over 20 hours of homework per week.

[QUOTE="PenguinGod19"]Geeze I remember when Super Mario 3 came out for the original nintendo. I played it straight through right away with my best friend and it took 3 hours tops to beat. Yet it was fun..... :P_sephex_

Because now games have a story, and it would just kill it to skip some stages.

[QUOTE="amapi"]

Well as you know, not everyone works, and many people have lots of time. You can still work and have free time, and just because you might not doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

A game like Heavenly Sword for instance isn't exactly hard, nor is it long. In a few sittings, a couple hours or so each and you could finish that game.

And shelling out 60 bucks or whatever amount you have to pay for a really short game is taking the mick frankly...

deadkingdg

Someone who works full time has much more free time than someone going to school.

I work over 40 hours a week, but when I get home, I have not much to do outside of what I want to do, like meeting some friends or playing video games.

Some of my friends are still at the university, and they can't go out after school because they have homeworks to do and things to study. So while they only have like 30 hours of school a week, they have over 20 hours of homework per week.

Sorry but i've been to college, and I didn't have 20 hours worth or homework to do. If anything it was about 5 hours or so a week. I find it hard getting into homework but once i'm on it I can do it fast. So it probably depends on what time you spend on H/W, but I don't think someone who works full time has MORE free time, because you just said yourself that you haven't got much to do by time you get home...

Either way, the game play value of games these days is ridiculous IMO. I obviously don't want a long huge game, but ffs we pay money for an experience to last and be enjoyable. Soon enough we'll get to the menu screen and the game will be finished.

[QUOTE="trininuyawka"][QUOTE="amapi"]

[QUOTE="codezer0"]When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.amapi

Bingo. If i'm correct, games cost 100 dollars in Australia...now when you buy a game costing that much you expect a good length of gameplay and maybe even a multiplayer component. But instead they get left with a 6-8 hour game that they can finish in an afternoon.

It's not acceptable.

It's acceptable to those of us who don't have a free 6 hours to spend gaming at any one time. As for the cost, it's also acceptable to those of us with litte time to play because we don't buy too many game throughout a given year, meaning we don't spend so much money on games to begin with.Over the last year I have bought only 2 games for example.

Well as you know, not everyone works, and many people have lots of time. You can still work and have free time, and just because you might not doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

A game like Heavenly Sword for instance isn't exactly hard, nor is it long. In a few sittings, a couple hours or so each and you could finish that game.

And shelling out 60 bucks or whatever amount you have to pay for a really short game is taking the mick frankly...

If you have lots of free time, what you deem acceptable is different. While you may think it's unacceptable, there are many of us who think it is. That's why I said it's acceptable to those of us with little free time. Same goes for the value you put on the gaming experience. If someone buys a dozen or so games per year, what they value for $60 is different then a person who buys 2-3 games per year. So for every person who says HS is way too short for what you pay, there are those who think it's just right is all I'm saying

I do not have to much free time on my hands and when I do have the time I would like to play a game that will last. Because I probably get about 4 hours a given week to play,I do not want to have a game that will take 8 hours to beat then be bored with it after you finish it and have to buy a new one. If I had more time for this hobby it would not be to bad, but between car payments, work, school, and the girl, I do not have the time, nor money to buy these games on a regular basis.

I do not have to much free time on my hands and when I do have the time I would like to play a game that will last. Because I probably get about 4 hours a given week to play,I do not want to have a game that will take 8 hours to beat then be bored with it after you finish it and have to buy a new one. If I had more time for this hobby it would not be to bad, but between car payments, work, school, and the girl, I do not have the time, nor money to buy these games on a regular basis.

[QUOTE="amapi"][QUOTE="trininuyawka"][QUOTE="amapi"]

[QUOTE="codezer0"]When games cost $60+ a pop, you kinda expect more for your money than when a game is $20 or less.trininuyawka

Bingo. If i'm correct, games cost 100 dollars in Australia...now when you buy a game costing that much you expect a good length of gameplay and maybe even a multiplayer component. But instead they get left with a 6-8 hour game that they can finish in an afternoon.

It's not acceptable.

It's acceptable to those of us who don't have a free 6 hours to spend gaming at any one time. As for the cost, it's also acceptable to those of us with litte time to play because we don't buy too many game throughout a given year, meaning we don't spend so much money on games to begin with.Over the last year I have bought only 2 games for example.

Well as you know, not everyone works, and many people have lots of time. You can still work and have free time, and just because you might not doesn't mean everyone else is the same.

A game like Heavenly Sword for instance isn't exactly hard, nor is it long. In a few sittings, a couple hours or so each and you could finish that game.

And shelling out 60 bucks or whatever amount you have to pay for a really short game is taking the mick frankly...

If you have lots of free time, what you deem acceptable is different. While you may think it's unacceptable, there are many of us who think it is. That's why I said it's acceptable to those of us with little free time. Same goes for the value you put on the gaming experience. If someone buys a dozen or so games per year, what they value for $60 is different then a person who buys 2-3 games per year. So for every person who says HS is way too short for what you pay, there are those who think it's just right is all I'm saying

I get ya. You make a good point. :)

Sorry but i've been to college, and I didn't have 20 hours worth or homework to do. If anything it was about 5 hours or so a week. I find it hard getting into homework but once i'm on it I can do it fast. So it probably depends on what time you spend on H/W, but I don't think someone who works full time has MORE free time, because you just said yourself that you haven't got much to do by time you get home...

Either way, the game play value of games these days is ridiculous IMO. I obviously don't want a long huge game, but ffs we pay money for an experience to last and be enjoyable. Soon enough we'll get to the menu screen and the game will be finished.

amapi

When I said that I didn't have much to do when I get home, I meant that I have a lot of free time now that I work. Outside of my 40 hours of work, ALL my time is free time. Obviously, I don't spend all that time gaming, but I could if I wanted to.

And when I was at college, I had projects taking over 5 hours in one class alone. Some classes needed 30 minutes per 2 weeks, other 5 hours a week... Near the end of the session, I was spending most of my weekends on project for different classes. And I was the kind of person who was doing it fast to get rid of it faster and who did not care for an average grade.

6-8 hours is too short. If Im paying $60 + for a game I wanna get a little more out of it than 6 hours. Who wants to play a game agin after they beat it? I might as well just rent the game.musclebound_meathead

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

deadkingdg

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.

[QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

calducciano

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.

online multiplayer--cough cough... and co op[QUOTE="calducciano"][QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

feryl06

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.

[QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

calducciano

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.

The game is made by Epic. They rule in multiplayer gaming. People who buy UT buy it for multiplayer, and if the main game would be 1 hour long, most people wouldn't care. Same for Gears. One of my friend played the main game for like an hour, but he has over 50 hours of multiplayer. Multiplayer is where Epic games have their value. Heavenly Sword, on the other hand, has nothing outside of single player.

[QUOTE="feryl06"]online multiplayer--cough cough... and co op[QUOTE="calducciano"][QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

calducciano

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.

You could make an online multiplayer barbie and the rockers game with a co-op dressup feature *cough* *cough* would that be fun too? *cough* *cough*

If it would be made by Epic, it could be fun, as long as we can make barbies blow up in amazing firefights and get our head chopped off.

[QUOTE="feryl06"]online multiplayer--cough cough... and co op[QUOTE="calducciano"][QUOTE="deadkingdg"]

Hmm, most people?

Most games are 8-10 hours long. It's the replay value that makes a game worth it or not. Sometimes you have to beat the story twice just to get it right, sometimes there's alternative paths that you must try, sometimes there's things to find and you must replay the game to find it, sometimes you want to clear it on an higher difficulty to unlock something...

If I didn't replay a game once I cleared it, it's because it sucked.

calducciano

Gears of *cough* *cough* - one time through was enough for me.