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#1 gangster480
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a refurbished 40gb at gamestop is $329.99 which is half the price of the original launch 60gb. and it is 70$ down from a new 80gb. and you all know that refurbished systems are better than ones that comes straight out of the factory.

if a price cut do come, it would be around $50 to $100. so it would be around the same price, so why wait?

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#2 K1LLR3175
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Because in this economy any type of price cut is a good thing.50-100$ Dollars saved is a big thing for me and alot of other people.
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#3 corwinn01
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People are tight. I could really care less since I have the systemsI would like to see a drop in the game prices.

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#4 Ragamer
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I want a pricedrop so I can replace the PS3 I have now. I've had it since launch and it feels like its slowly breaking.. oh and my warrenty is gone.

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#5 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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Because most people want a new console which are way too expensive.

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#6 Vyse_Legends
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Because most people would like to spend as little as possible on something.

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#7 Amster_G
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Because look at every other console bundle. You get a system, the proper cables, controller of course and one or two games. From Sony you get a system... that's it. No games, no movies, standard cables.... and it's the most expensive. Yes, PSN is free and whatnot but put the cheapest bundles of all console side by side. You'll see how wrong it is.

Oh, you can get a couple of games alright, if you feel like putting down $499.99 plus tax for the 160GB.

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#8 eo_the_shaman
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i got a ballad of ricky bobby on bluray with my ps3 :D

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#9 Furi-Kun
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I want a pricedrop so I can replace the PS3 I have now. I've had it since launch and it feels like its slowly breaking.. oh and my warrenty is gone.

Ragamer

You would rather buy a brand new one than to have Sony fix it?

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#10 360hammer
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I think it's because people don't understand what they are getting.

1. Blue Ray drive - probibly costs SONY around $80 vs a DVD drive which probibly costs around $20

2. Built in wifi and Bluetooth, Not going to speculate cost but vs the other option I'm sure it adds more cost.

3. The cell and graphics chip (specially made for the system) vs a graphics chip (I dont think there is anything speciel about the CPU in the 360 but could be wrong).

Just a few reasons why the PS3 costs more and SONY sold for a loss. Rather than a price cut I'd like to see them bundle the headset and HDMI cable.

BTW the cost for the bundled headset and HDMI cable with the other console probibly doesn't cost more than $10. You can order HDMI cables for $5 all day long and thats retail not production cost. When company's buy in bulk like hard drives for the systems it becomes quite cheap. The 20 gig drive you get with the pro model probibly didn't even cost Microsoft $20.

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#11 Amster_G
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I think it's because people don't understand what they are getting.

1. Blue Ray drive - probibly costs SONY around $80 vs a DVD drive which probibly costs around $20

2. Built in wifi and Bluetooth, Not going to speculate cost but vs the other option I'm sure it adds more cost.

3. The cell and graphics chip (specially made for the system) vs a graphics chip (I dont think there is anything speciel about the CPU in the 360 but could be wrong).

Just a few reasons why the PS3 costs more and SONY sold for a loss. Rather than a price cut I'd like to see them bundle the headset and HDMI cable.

BTW the cost for the bundled headset and HDMI cable with the other console probibly doesn't cost more than $10. You can order HDMI cables for $5 all day long and thats retail not production cost. When company's buy in bulk like hard drives for the systems it becomes quite cheap. The 20 gig drive you get with the pro model probibly didn't even cost Microsoft $20.

360hammer

That's all true but people look at different consoles and what they look at is what's inside the box. They find a $199.99 Xbox bundle with a headset, HDMI cable and a couple of games an incredible deal as opposed to a $399.99 PS3 bundle with nothing but the console itself inside, and some outdated cables and no games or movies. They don't (seem to) realize what's inside the CONSOLE, which is all what you just said.

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#12 Chet_Won
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Because most people would like to spend as little as possible on something.

Vyse_Legends

That is the best answer to that question i can think of, it took months to save up enough to get a ps3 2 games hdmi cable an extra controller. And the sony bluetooth headset I'm not poor I just cant offord to drop 5-7 hundred dollars at once

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#13 2beers_in_hand
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Why wouldn't you want a price drop. Anytime you can increase you user base it's a win win situation.

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#14 Sepewrath
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alot of current PS3 owners seem to want a price drop in expectation that it will propell Sony to the top of the pack.
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#15 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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[QUOTE="Ragamer"]

I want a pricedrop so I can replace the PS3 I have now. I've had it since launch and it feels like its slowly breaking.. oh and my warrenty is gone.

Furi-Kun

You would rather buy a brand new one than to have Sony fix it?

I would. I've heard of too many people having repeat problems with the same console after repairing it. I definitely wouldn't buy a replacement before it even broke though.
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#16 shhbob
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prehaps some people dont have the funds to buy a PS3 at its current price

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#17 Bioshockraptor
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People want cheapness.
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#18 Wuflungdung
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I think it's because people don't understand what they are getting.

1. Blue Ray drive - probibly costs SONY around $80 vs a DVD drive which probibly costs around $20

360hammer

Sorry but this always **** me, there is no way sony pays that much for the drives, they buy in extreme mass bulk. there has been 22 million PS3 units sold so there no way they are even are gonna pay clost to retail, considering you can get blu ray drives for roughly $150 they would be getting huge discounts they would be paying less than $50 for one. There is absolutely no way they are selling consoles for a loss like this common myth that is around. They are if you look at what a normal customer going out and buying the individual parts and putting it together them selves, but most kids on this site don't understand how business works.

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#19 FF6fan
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Well Publishers(like Activision and EA) want it so that they can sell more games, a $100 cheaper means that person would be more likely to buy their games($100 can buy you 2-4 games depending on the price) rather than if is the price it is right now and people unload their wallets and only get maybe one or two games. Consumers want it because of course they don't want to spend 500-600 dollars on a gaming machine.
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#20 yokofox33
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Because any kind of savings is good. Why would people want to pay 400 dollars when they can pay 350 for the same product? Of course people want a price cut. They don't want to pay more for something when they can have it for cheaper if they wait a little bit.

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#21 360hammer
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

I think it's because people don't understand what they are getting.

1. Blue Ray drive - probibly costs SONY around $80 vs a DVD drive which probibly costs around $20

Wuflungdung

Sorry but this always **** me, there is no way sony pays that much for the drives, they buy in extreme mass bulk. there has been 22 million PS3 units sold so there no way they are even are gonna pay clost to retail, considering you can get blu ray drives for roughly $150 they would be getting huge discounts they would be paying less than $50 for one. There is absolutely no way they are selling consoles for a loss like this common myth that is around. They are if you look at what a normal customer going out and buying the individual parts and putting it together them selves, but most kids on this site don't understand how business works.

Well when they launched the PS3 those drives cost alot more than $50 even in bulk. Sure you can get a Blue Ray drive for around $150 NOW, 2 years ago they were twice that. You cut out the rest of my post which it is clear I'm not a kid without an understanding about how buisness works. As for SONY selling at a loss the first year well that's no myth. They paid quite a chunk for that cell.

Here's a couple links so you can inform yourself before responding

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/40745/118/

http://gizmodo.com/344141/ps3-production-cost-down-50-sony-finally-breaking-even

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#22 360hammer
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Here's another with the BR drive cost

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/16/isuppli_prices_up_ps3/

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#23 Nocturnal_Speed
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I too think Sony is making a small profit now. I have a gut feeling the way there going after exclusives and how there trying to get 3rd party devs to develop 1st party games tells me there not to bad.... and how are they funding all these games, because I know if I was losing money after 2 years and trying to make all these damn people happy with exclusives AAA tiltes I would be PISSED!
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#24 ColonelRadec
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Some people are tight on money so that a price drop will help them make the purchase.
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#25 jay_rock_
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Well in the land of freedom people trying too hold every dime they get there hands on....

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#26 KurodaMurasaki
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I don''t think it's required but it would get more sales for Sony.

The value is definitely really good, but that won't suffice with the video-game market.

Sony only gets a little over 10 dollars each system. If one happens don't expect a big one.

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#27 Chaos_Bladez
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Less money = more people buying systems
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#28 phoenix1122
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To Be More Afordable To Buy

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#29 demonkid63
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how are the refirbished consoles better then the ones straight out of the factory?

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#30 Jackc8
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When the PS3 came out, I thought it was WAY too expensive. I probably criticized it as much as anybody. But since then the price has come down a lot, and since I've now got an HDTV and wanted a Blu-ray player anyway, the price seems pretty reasonable. Of course anyone who doesn't have a stake in Sony's profitability wants them to give the thing away for free. Your average person naturally assumes that every company makes a 90% profit on everything they sell and they're just so mean and uncaring blah blah blah. :roll:

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#31 JengyMae
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How many times are you going to make the exact same thread?? Anywho I think that the PS3's quality to price ratio is just fine. Heck the companies losing money on the deal... i dont want sony to go in the toilet or anything. When the technology gets cheaper to make the price will drop, just be patient. IMO its worth every hard earned penny I spent.

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#32 bdhoff
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a refurbished 40gb at gamestop is $329.99 which is half the price of the original launch 60gb. and it is 70$ down from a new 80gb. and you all know that refurbished systems are better than ones that comes straight out of the factory.

if a price cut do come, it would be around $50 to $100. so it would be around the same price, so why wait?

gangster480

You're fooling yourself if you believe that a refurbished system at GameStop is actually factory refurbished, because it isn't. They get cleaned up and packed in boxes, but they aren't refurbished like a manufacturer would do.

And people want a price cut because the PS3 is expensive. If a price cut comes on new models then price cuts come on used models. So why buy now?

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#33 plg2307
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This talk about the price etc, interresting read to anyone who wants to know a bit more about Sony (possible) situation

A bit old but still a good read

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#34 Warriorboy1990
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Because people are poor.

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#35 hot_shot_9
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I think its because that people want a price drop because gamestop is not everywhere(here in Nz i've only seen the gamesman and eb as the main game shops)....... Also if they did a 50-100dollar drop then that refurbished would drop in price too....

100dollars in NZ equals like nearly 180dollars..

Thats a massive price drop in countries other than america

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#36 Gxgear
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People can't "afford" the system, ie. too lazy to save up.

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#37 jrhawk42
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Most people don't want a 40gB refurbished system. I have an 80gB and I've used over 40gB of it so far which means I'd have to remove something from my ps3 to install a new game if I'd bought the 40gB. Condidering more and more games require 4gB installs you're going to have to remove game data if you own a lot of games which is annoying. Sure you can upgrade w/ a new drive, but once you do that there goes the $70 you saved.

Next refurbished systems are in no way better than those coming straight out the factory. Refurbished systems are systems that were returned w/ defects, and are now considered "acceptable". Most refurbished systems still have the problem they were originally returned for. Sometimes it's something minor like a scuffed surface, or the ps logo fell off. Other times it's the system tends to shut off after being on for 4+ hours, or there's a bad sector on the hard drive corrupting data. Since problems like that are hard to reproduce it's easy to mark the refurbished systems as acceptable.

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#38 Jakesta7
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Because in this economy any type of price cut is a good thing.50-100$ Dollars saved is a big thing for me and alot of other people.K1LLR3175
This^^.. Who would not want a price drop?
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#39 absoluteawesome
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Honestly, now that I have just bought a PS3 the last thing I want to see is a price drop.
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#40 GIANNITHEBEST1
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How about a drop in game prices. : ) That would be great since the games on PS3 are about $59.99 with tax.
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#41 gangster480
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[QUOTE="gangster480"]

a refurbished 40gb at gamestop is $329.99 which is half the price of the original launch 60gb. and it is 70$ down from a new 80gb. and you all know that refurbished systems are better than ones that comes straight out of the factory.

if a price cut do come, it would be around $50 to $100. so it would be around the same price, so why wait?

bdhoff

You're fooling yourself if you believe that a refurbished system at GameStop is actually factory refurbished, because it isn't. They get cleaned up and packed in boxes, but they aren't refurbished like a manufacturer would do.

And people want a price cut because the PS3 is expensive. If a price cut comes on new models then price cuts come on used models. So why buy now?

well, according to your logic then people is always going to want a cheaper price, even if the price do go down, people would always wait for another price cut. and they will always want a cheaper price. always wait for another price cut. because as we all know ps3 is $200 down from the launch price.

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#42 Keir21
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[QUOTE="Ragamer"]

I want a pricedrop so I can replace the PS3 I have now. I've had it since launch and it feels like its slowly breaking.. oh and my warrenty is gone.

Furi-Kun

You would rather buy a brand new one than to have Sony fix it?

Yes because they always seem to break again anyway.
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#43 IIRS3II_H1TMAN
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If the PS3 gets a price cut, I will buy one...
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#44 M0wen10
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prehaps some people dont have the funds to buy a PS3 at its current price

shhbob

Yep, very true

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#45 jamessayers
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Because look at every other console bundle. You get a system, the proper cables, controller of course and one or two games. From Sony you get a system... that's it. No games, no movies, standard cables.... and it's the most expensive. Yes, PSN is free and whatnot but put the cheapest bundles of all console side by side. You'll see how wrong it is.

Oh, you can get a couple of games alright, if you feel like putting down $499.99 plus tax for the 160GB.

Amster_G

If that $199 bundle for the 360 you are talking about is an arcade it doesn't come with all of that... It comes with an HDMI output/input and doesn't come with a headset... it actually comes with everything a ps3 comes with (in the box)

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#46 Ravenlore_basic
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There should be a 199 - 249 option with very little. SO some people can get one now

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#47 gangster480
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what do you think is the reasonable price for the ps3?

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#48 kingdre
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Saving money is a good thing.

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#49 Furi-Kun
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Saving money is a good thing.

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Since when?:P

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#50 Rakuho
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to play less... :? I'm not trying to be sarcastic here but this is pretty obvious.