Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
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Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
99.9% of FPS games that come out or have come out recently are unoriginal.
But in all honesty there is no such thing as an original game now. You can pretty much compare similarites between any two games.
Resistance doesn't play at all like Halo,
and Halo is just an updated version of Marathon: Durandal, I only know this because the developers said so, that's why it was released on XBL :D
Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
-Intellectual-
Every game copies other games, it's called competition and it's how things get better. Every industry in life copies other firms in their field, it's how industries push each other and get better.
You need to stop hating. You obviously don't even have a PS3.
i think this dude just started this threat to cause a stir. Insomniac is a great company that makes quality games. Intellectual is complaining about how resistance 2 is copying from Gears of war?! that doesnt make any sense considering Resistance 2 is a sequel to Resistance 1 (der) which came out 4 months after Gears of War. Both games were in production at the same time so neither copied from each other. Intellectual is probably just a fan boy. Its like saying Henry Ford copied Karl Benz when he invented the car and that all other car compaines today COPY Henry Ford because i like him the best. Who does chevy COPY from other cars?
what is left to be original in a fps anyway lolrailroberto2007
Well, S.T.A.L.K.E.R was pretty much unlike any other FPS, I'm hoping the sequal will be on the ps3, I'm kind of turned off pc gaming, due to my 7 month old video card being obsolete all ready.
Originality is an illusion of the ignorant.
Good Artists borrow, Great Artists steal.
Sorry, man all art is derived from other art, its not just Imsomniac. Halo ripped off Aliens colonial marines, Robocop and Iron Man. Resistance is a cross between Call of Duty and Halo. Ratchet and Clank is a 3D modern version of Mega Man. Doesnt make them any less great games.
[QUOTE="railroberto2007"]what is left to be original in a fps anyway lolAndrew_Xavier
Well, S.T.A.L.K.E.R was pretty much unlike any other FPS, I'm hoping the sequal will be on the ps3, I'm kind of turned off pc gaming, due to my 7 month old video card being obsolete all ready.
Shees, 7 months old only? I have x1900GT pro and it still works like a charm even for CoD4 and UT3. I am not too willing to try Crysis because I thought Farycry was shallow. BTW, STALKER is coming with a prequel, but it's Steam releas only. STALKER: Clear Sky I think is the name.[QUOTE="railroberto2007"]what is left to be original in a fps anyway lolAndrew_Xavier
Well, S.T.A.L.K.E.R was pretty much unlike any other FPS, I'm hoping the sequal will be on the ps3, I'm kind of turned off pc gaming, due to my 7 month old video card being obsolete all ready.
Just because it isn't the best in the market anymone doesn't mean it can no longer play games. Cards from 3 years ago can still play most new games on high or at least medium settings. People always get discouraged from PC gaming because they think they have to have this $4000 computer to enjoy their games, when a $500-$600 computer can run any game on the market at full settings except for Crysis. (I'd know, because my computer was just over $600 (with 19" monitor) and I can run everyhing except Crysis). I don't know what card you have, but I bet it runs games fine.
is complaining about how resistance 2 is copying from Gears of war?! nhortn
So many replies and NO one answered my question !!
Resistance 2 is currently in development and the latest screenshots reveal that some of the chimera look like the Locust Horde. It seems Insomniac is doing this intentionally under the direct orders from Sony. Sony is so upset and angry that Gears was a runaway success with amazing graphics using the Unreal Engine 3.
As for the people who are saying there are no original games recently, just look at Bioshock which won many awards and critically acclaimed. Bioshock did enough to stand out from the crowd and had many original ideas.
Gears was also original. No game had mastered and perfected 3rd person shooting with tactical cover.
Half-life needs no introduction. Its one of the BEST FPS series ever made and very original. Dont be bitter that the Orange Box was poor on the ps3 and the worst version, with horrible frame-rates and online lag. Read the reviews from various sites to see for yourself.
So many replies and NO one answered my question !!
Resistance 2 is currently in development and the latest screenshots reveal that some of the chimera look like the Locust Horde. It seems Insomniac is doing this intentionally under the direct orders from Sony. Sony is so upset and angry that Gears was a runaway success with amazing graphics using the Unreal Engine 3.
As for the people who are saying there are no original games recently, just look at Bioshock which won many awards and critically acclaimed. Bioshock did enough to stand out from the crowd and had many original ideas.
Gears was also original. No game had mastered and perfected 3rd person shooting with tactical cover.
Half-life needs no introduction. Its one of the BEST FPS series ever made and very original. Dont be bitter that the Orange Box was poor on the ps3 and the worst version, with horrible frame-rates and online lag. Read the reviews from various sites to see for yourself.
-Intellectual-
Careful you don't pull something with that stretching. :lol:
As for your examples:
Bioshock = story
Gears = graphics
Half-life = physics
None of them did anything ground breaking as much as they did some things better than other offerings.
What was the last game to be made with a story based on WWII not happening because of an alien invasion as well as have 40 player lag-free online multiplayer?
[QUOTE="nhortn"] is complaining about how resistance 2 is copying from Gears of war?! -Intellectual-
So many replies and NO one answered my question !!
Resistance 2 is currently in development and the latest screenshots reveal that some of the chimera look like the Locust Horde. It seems Insomniac is doing this intentionally under the direct orders from Sony. Sony is so upset and angry that Gears was a runaway success with amazing graphics using the Unreal Engine 3.
As for the people who are saying there are no original games recently, just look at Bioshock which won many awards and critically acclaimed. Bioshock did enough to stand out from the crowd and had many original ideas.
Gears was also original. No game had mastered and perfected 3rd person shooting with tactical cover.
Half-life needs no introduction. Its one of the BEST FPS series ever made and very original. Dont be bitter that the Orange Box was poor on the ps3 and the worst version, with horrible frame-rates and online lag. Read the reviews from various sites to see for yourself.
By definition of the word 'original' (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/original):
"2 a: not secondary, derivative, or imitative b: being the first instance or source from which a copy, reproduction, or translation is or can be made"
Gears was not original with its cover system. As been stated, it was done before by Kill Switch. Gears may have nailed the use of it, but it's still not original.
Bioshock isn't either. Bioshock is System Shock 2; except made easier (Vita-chambers) and set in the 1950s.
I will agree on HL being one of the best FPS and it being original.
Your comment about Insomniac being told by Sony to copy Gears is purely conjecture. There is nothing out there to prove it being so. Also, keep in mind that IG is not owned by Sony.
[QUOTE="nhortn"] is complaining about how resistance 2 is copying from Gears of war?! -Intellectual-
So many replies and NO one answered my question !!
Everyone answered your question. You just didn't like their response. But first of all you mentioned Halo... a game that brought nothing new to the genre at all. But I will go ahead and talk about Resistance 2. First of all the weapons in Resistance were very unique, and I am sure the new ones will be too. 8 player coop with classes and big boss battles!? Show me a game that does that. 60 player multiplayer on a console? Ya blah blah blah I have Battlefield also, but this is an amazing step for console games.[QUOTE="nhortn"] is complaining about how resistance 2 is copying from Gears of war?! -Intellectual-
So many replies and NO one answered my question !!
Resistance 2 is currently in development and the latest screenshots reveal that some of the chimera look like the Locust Horde. It seems Insomniac is doing this intentionally under the direct orders from Sony. Sony is so upset and angry that Gears was a runaway success with amazing graphics using the Unreal Engine 3.
As for the people who are saying there are no original games recently, just look at Bioshock which won many awards and critically acclaimed. Bioshock did enough to stand out from the crowd and had many original ideas.
Gears was also original. No game had mastered and perfected 3rd person shooting with tactical cover.
Half-life needs no introduction. Its one of the BEST FPS series ever made and very original. Dont be bitter that the Orange Box was poor on the ps3 and the worst version, with horrible frame-rates and online lag. Read the reviews from various sites to see for yourself.
*sigh* Ok i'll answer to each of those idividually with everything you need.1. resemblance to locust horde - pictures:
Gears -->picture 1picture 2
Resistance 1 & Resistance 2
don't kid yourself... no similarity
2. Insomniac doing this under Sony - proved they weren't similar. Working under sony's wing to imitate gears because they are jealous? Conspiracy theorist are you? If you want to prove what you said you need to find me a link to your story of insomniac working to imitate gears. It's so easy to speculate and live in a dream where companies you don't like are comparable to Hitler Do you really think Microsoft cares about you and your personal needs? Every multi billion company wants YOUR money so they are going to tap on successes to make more money. Sony is like that and Microsoft is like that.
3. Bioshock being original - you are right on that one. Bioshock was original and brought something new to the table. There are obviously going to be a few shooters bringing something new to the table. But can you say alot? Not really. You have to come to the realisation that when a game does very well companies tend to want to emulate what worked with that game. IT IS THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRY.
4. Gears and it's revolutionary 3rd person - I can hardly call Gears tactical and neither can you. I've played it and loved it. Hell I think it's one of the best games out. GRAW is an amazing third person Tactical shooter and it works extremely well.
5. Half life and the orange box - Both excellent games (from what i hear). Not many people can deny that. Have you personally played the ps3 version? If yes then your point is valid and you can discuss it with people who know about the quality. If not you need to keep your mouth shut when you don't know something. I could say that i hate Half life because it sucks monkeyballs but i'm not going to say that because I have NEVER PLAYED IT. Therefore my point is not valid. Therefore neither is yours. note: What does that have to do with the unoriginality of Insomniac?
To end it I will add why I think Insomniac is original. I have played two games by them: Resistance and R & C. The weapons are original, the action is even, the level design is always different (less in Resistance but the point still remains), voice acting is great, Gameplay is easy and accessable... Please answer me with a well documented and informed response or I won't give you the time of day.
Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
-Intellectual-
Must not flame, must not flame, must not flame, MUST NOT FLAME! :cry:
Have you ever wondered...where your mentioned games got their ideas from?
[QUOTE="-Intellectual-"]Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
Symphonycometh
Must not flame, must not flame, must not flame, MUST NOT FLAME! :cry:
Have you ever wondered...where your mentioned games got their ideas from?
:o FLAMING! back to 0 on the counter! rabble rabble!LOL guys, what made you think I'm a Microsoft fanboy ??
I'm keeping an open mind. Obviously there are a lot of passionate fanboys here who will do anything for Sony.
Going back to the topic. Derivative is the opposite of Original. Agreed ?? Resistance 1 DERIVED things from other well known games. Read the review of Resistance by Greg Kasavin (who was a great reviewer at this site). He details what Insomniac copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Also Insomniac are 2nd party developers, so their games are exclusive for the ps3, even though Sony does not own them. BUT Sony has a big influence on them and wants them to compete with their rivals, even if it goes as far as copying.
Dont get upset with me. If a game copies weapons, physics, vehicles from other games, then you should own up and admit it.
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="-Intellectual-"]Resistance 1 copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Resistance 2 is copying the Locust from Gears of War.
Why ? Why cant they be original and come out with their own ideas ?
swamplord666
Must not flame, must not flame, must not flame, MUST NOT FLAME! :cry:
Have you ever wondered...where your mentioned games got their ideas from?
:o FLAMING! back to 0 on the counter! rabble rabble!It's not flaming! :cry:
LOL guys, what made you think I'm a Microsoft fanboy ??
I'm keeping an open mind. Obviously there are a lot of passionate fanboys here who will do anything for Sony.
Going back to the topic. Derivative is the opposite of Original. Agreed ?? Resistance 1 DERIVED things from other well known games. Read the review of Resistance by Greg Kasavin (who was a great reviewer at this site). He details what Insomniac copied from Half-Life and Halo.
Also Insomniac are 2nd party developers, so their games are exclusive for the ps3, even though Sony does not own them. BUT Sony has a big influence on them and wants them to compete with their rivals, even if it goes as far as copying.
Dont get upset with me. If a game copies weapons, physics, vehicles from other games, then you should own up and admit it.
-Intellectual-
Hey, you came back. I'd love to debate with you, but I don't care enough for Resistance to have an epic debate for it. The only thing I'll say is that your mentioned "ripped" games also have been "borrowing" ideas. It all originates to Shadows of the Colossus owning everything in originality.:P
Dont get upset with me. If a game copies weapons, physics, vehicles from other games, then you should own up and admit it.
-Intellectual-
Just like how you should admit most of the games you listed as 'original' are also copying weapons, physics, vehicles from other games. Hell, by your logic you can say Half Life copied weapons from the earliest of FPS like Doom and Wolfenstein. Oh no, it also copied the first person viewpoint of those games or even early PC adventure games.
LOL guys, what made you think I'm a Microsoft fanboy ??-Intellectual-
You should have added some variety to your examples if you didn't want to paint that picture.
Going back to the topic. Derivative is the opposite of Original. Agreed ?? Resistance 1 DERIVED things from other well known games. Read the review of Resistance by Greg Kasavin (who was a great reviewer at this site). He details what Insomniac copied from Half-Life and Halo.-Intellectual-
Insomniac isn't the first company, nor is Resistance the first game to derive from previoous works.
Also Insomniac are 2nd party developers, so their games are exclusive for the ps3, even though Sony does not own them. BUT Sony has a big influence on them and wants them to compete with their rivals, even if it goes as far as copying.-Intellectual-
Wow...again with the stretching.
Dont get upset with me. If a game copies weapons, physics, vehicles from other games, then you should own up and admit it.-Intellectual-
Pics of original games from which Resistance copied it's weapons please. R&C titles don't count.
Physics are a reality and any game with an intent to simulate even the slightest amount of gravitational realism will have a physics engine.
Resistance by far has some of the "heaviest" enemies I've experienced.
As for Vehicles, they're usually based on existent military transports so there's really nothing to discuss there.
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