Why does Valve hate Sony?

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#1 YellowyEyes
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#2 Hevid
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Valve doesnt hate Sony. The problem is that Valve has troubles with programming for the PS3 like so many other developers. So thats why they stoped making games for the PS3 untill whenever. It is more a case of time. Later on they realise what a PS3 can do just like EA. I know that it kinda sucks that we have to wait for it but allot of developers just dont want to invest that matter of time in there games when u can develop a game for the 360 or pc way faster with less money
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#3 Ospov
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Because they don't? Maybe they just don't care...
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#4 haemorrhagiae
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Valve developers cant develop games with Cell and thats why they all fail.

So what if they released Half life series.

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#5 TriangleHard
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That's because valve isn't really game developer.

they are more of game engine developer, and they are poor at it, and became even worst due to PS3 being pain to develop for.

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#6 Swift_Boss_A
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I believe its because the PS3's architecture makes them cry and they don't want to learn new way program games. They should get Kojima to help them
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#7 unholymight
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Valve hasn't made a good game in a while.
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#8 K1LLR3175
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It is because the PS3 its self.I believe one of the lead guys over at valve called the PS3''A technical Disaster,and sony should have scrapped the idea of it''Or something like that.I don't think Valve suck I just wish they would take the time and resorces to learn how to make quality games for the PS3.If they come out with any games any time soon.
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#9 Solid_Max13
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Look at Gabe Newell and you'll realise he's just to lazy to make anything complete.
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#10 adolson
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Look at Gabe Newell and you'll realise Microsoft has cake. Lots of cake. Sony doesn't.Solid_Max13
Fixed.
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#11 Whiteknight19
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[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]Look at Gabe Newell and you'll realise Microsoft head up bums loads of bums. Sony doesn't.adolson
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#12 CosmoKing7717
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Well...the founders did work at microsoft for tons of years before founding Valve...might have SOMETHING to do with it
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#13 AgentZero225
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because they are a bunch of lazy developers the gaming business has ever seen. They punk out when something is too hard for them and they are fat fanboys that do not care about money.
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#14 supa_badman
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if everyone gave an opinion about who hates sony, then EVERY developer would hate sony

even SCEA. no one hates anyone, its all in your mind.

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#15 Lyphe2k
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[QUOTE="adolson"][QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]Look at Gabe Newell and you'll realise Microsoft head up bums loads of bums. Sony doesn't. La-La-La-La-LaWhiteknight19
Fixed.

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#16 watson_twenty5
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Little known fact: The Valve office is actually in Bill Gates' garage. That's where Gabe Newell sucks on Bill's teet. 'Cuz everyone knows that if it has nipples you can milk it. :D

Seriously though. I think they're just lazy. And Valve is pretty much located in Microsoft's backyard. I'm sure there's some influence there.

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#17 Denji
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I pick Laziness for $200 Alex!

They're just taking the easy way out. From what I've read over the past couple of years, the 360 isn't that far derived from programming for a PC.

People complained "it's too hard". All these titles are coming out now and just proving that all of the nay sayers are just full of s*** lacking talent to take on the PS3. I guess only the smart and talented, are doing PS3 games. Look at Kojima Productions. They aren't a first party Sony branch and they released Metal Gear Solid 4 making good use of the PS3. More people are catching on to the PS3 now. Sure there's a learning curve at first, but if you're good enough, you find a way to work with it and use it's power. Valve's only one company with what? Half Life 2 going for them? The PS3 isn't losing much. Besides, Half Life 2 makes me sick when I play it. Very poor quality and very poor frame rate if it'll make me physically ill and I can run Half Life 2 just fine on my PC.

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#18 xxgunslingerxx
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although the people at valve are very creative i dont think they are the best programmers sure the source engine was great for its time but it took around 8 years to make and they never make a game that isnt delayed by at least 8 months or more

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#19 gamer082009
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Perhaps it's because Sony is so stubborn and has time consuming difficult hardware (which pretty much is the PS3). So, Difficult stubborn Sony + Difficult non-developer friendly hardware = We take our games elsewhere to other platforms and make lots of money the more smarter way. Just my thought on things.
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#20 YellowyEyes
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We won't be seeing Left 4 Dead on the PS3, will we?

Not even an EA port?

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#21 G-Legend
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They have a problem with how Sony's consoles architechtures are different. The xbox is similar to a PC's that's why they find it easier to develop for the Xbox whereas the PS3 has the Cell Processor which is more complex. That's why Valve doesn't do much work on PS3, imo though they're great developers but they could do a lot more with the Ps3 if they just put in the time.
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#22 ChiSoxBombers
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they dont hate us they just havent given the time and effort to understand and program games via the cell. things take time.
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#23 G-Legend
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they dont hate us they just havent given the time and effort to understand and program games via the cell. things take time.ChiSoxBombers

I don't think they will either they don't seem like they would.

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#24 Swift_Boss_A
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they dont hate us they just havent given the time and effort to understand and program games via the cell. things take time.ChiSoxBombers

lol I didn't know we work for Sony

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#25 madcapmcgraw
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Yet no one seems to mention the fact that, "Sony=no massive hardware crashes other than the nuke that reset everyone's clocks, which I might add, was promptly patched and repaired. The Xbox360=buggier than a summer in Mississippi and still no solution to the red ring of death. Crashes constantly and is susceptible to viruses when browsing online." Way to phone it in Microsoft. Your computers suck and your game systems suck worse. In fact, Microsoft actually stated that the Red Ring of Death "didn't exist" and that it was our faults. Obviously, by playing our Xbox consoles we've violated some kind of terms of use policy or something with Microsoft and if anything major goes wrong we're on our own. So why does Valve have a problem with a far more stable though slightly more complicated encoding system? They're lazy. That's my only explanation. And what's even more sad is that fanboys have started to EXPECT massive delays. When Left 4 Dead 2 released on time, people whined saying it was too early! Unbelievable. So, not only do these people have an excuse to be lazy and take forever to develop a game, but they have tons of fans who are not only okay with that. They WANT that. Dear god... I think the Sony hate is only the tip of the iceberg of the problems with Valve.
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#26 Young_Charter
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[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]Look at Gabe Newell and you'll realise Microsoft has cake. Lots of cake. Sony doesn't.adolson
Fixed.

I lol'd :D I really am laughing now.. Picturing him running over there eating cake... BUT WAIT... SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IF WE GIVE HIM ENDLESS FOOD AND CHEESECAKE AND SUBS N BURRITOS WITH SUSHI N SHRIMP AND ALL THE GOODNESS IN THE WORLD, WE'LL GET LEFT FOR DEAD 2 ?
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#27 Kane04
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lol I didn't know we work for Sony

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If they don't make games for our system they hate us :P

(...)SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IF WE GIVE HIM (...) ALL THE GOODNESS IN THE WORLD, WE'LL GET LEFT FOR DEAD 2 ? Young_Charter

Actually i got Left 4 Dead 2 for PC and i thought it was like vanilla ice cream, yeah its good and you like it, but its plain and idk :P IMO people that didn't play it are not missing much :D its a bit overrated IMO.

Why does Valve hate Sony?YellowyEyes

I think it was because when the PS3 was about to come out they said it was a terrible system and if Sony was smart they'd give up on the PS3 and start over.

After being proven wrong many times, if not by anything else, games like U2, GOW3, MGS4 prove the PS3 is a more than capable gaming system.

So i think they are kinda like a spoiled brat that doesn't wanna admit it was wrong :P

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#28 Young_Charter
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lol but I have this thing for Survival games :P and one online is like cookie dough ice cream :D its like RE5 but with 4 players and you are the unprofessional Zombie killers :P
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#29 MushroomWig
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Guys, this is a 2 year old thread..why bump?
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#30 Young_Charter
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Guys, this is a 2 year old thread..why bump?MushroomWig
oh gosh.... I didnt notice :P
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#31 Young_Charter
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lol its funny because this was on my 16th birthday in 2008 :P... haha memories..
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#32 VanDammFan
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Perhaps it's because Sony is so stubborn and has time consuming difficult hardware (which pretty much is the PS3). So, Difficult stubborn Sony + Difficult non-developer friendly hardware = We take our games elsewhere to other platforms and make lots of money the more smarter way. Just my thought on things.gamer082009

Its funny thought how many other lesser known and less financially set developers have made great games for the PS3.So are they that much better than Valve? OR should we just say...Valve is lazy and or paid off?

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#33 jimpooler
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i love sony its price!
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#34 david_lck
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Please don't bump old threads.