why gaming is pretty much dead

Of course, you can't be expected to first-party your console's entire library, that way madness lies. The lack of games is just a symptom of the root problem: The Wii U is proving unattractive to third-party developers. That could be for several reasons. It could be, as I've always felt, that the screen controller arrangement is just too obnoxious a gimmick to have to work with. Or it could be that Nintendo is just too obnoxious a company to have to work with.

Honestly, it's like watching the first of three roped-together blind people step off a cliff. Except the other two aren't blind, and have merely put their hands over their ears. And are loudly singing songs about what a lovely time everyone's going to have when they've all been dashed upon the rocks below. And the one thing that the Wii U does right - backwards compatibility - seems to be the first thing everyone wants to fling from the hot air balloon.

I heard the arguments the last time I brought this up. It's simply not practical to make the new consoles backwards compatible, the hardware's too clumsy, the emulation's too intensive, blah de blah de blah. If that's the case, then don't make a new console. If it can't be done, then you drop the f***ing idea right then and there until it can. Full stop. Exclamation mark. The only way a new console is in any way justifiable is as an UPGRADE of the existing generation's console, not a f***ing replacement for it. You CANNOT replace a library of hundreds of games with a library of ZERO games and tell us it's an improvement. That is f***ing bonkers.

But for the first time I have such a crushing sense of foreboding for everything about this upcoming console generation that I don't want any part of it. I don't want to acquire a PS4 or an always-on Xbox even for work purposes, let alone for personal entertainment. The console industry as it stands is unsustainable and heading for the cliff edge. You only need to look at that Adam Orth "deal with it" tweet to see the writing on the wall. The new generation of consoles is a desperate let's-see-what-we-can-get-away-with lunge from a dying beast, and now they're not even trying to pretend that it will improve the gaming experience. They're going to force online measures to stamp out pre-owned games, they're going to erase your histories, and they're going to throw entire generations of games to the wind. And you, consumer, can just "deal with it".

Don't mistake this for doomsaying. Gaming's future lies in non-exclusivity, reasonable costs, unrestricted development and access to games from the entire history of the medium. All of which are anathema to the console industry as it stands but are fueling an increasingly healthy and invigorating PC and mobile/tablet scene. Ditch the PS4 midnight launch and spend your evening building a decent gaming PC instead. I would.

All that typing just for a lame "PC rulez" thread that'll probably get locked because it violates this forum's rules? Well done TC.

The PS4 will be fine, look at what Naughty Dog is doing with TLOU, now imagine what they would do with a next gen console. Also you seem to forget Sony has world wide studios, not just in america alone, so expect an RPG exclusive on PS4, i would not even be suprised if DeepDown is that RPG exclusive, then you have a new racer in Drive club, a kiddie game in Knack. Just wait to see more of these games at E3

*passes out*

I think some of you fail to realize the longer you do something the less interesting it becomes. You play video games for a decade or so and nothing is new anymore. And you just can't face the fact that you have grown up and know longer are interested. Why? Because you grew up! I been playing video games since the 80s. And rarely is anything interesting to me these days. Because the real world is more important.

Of course, you can't be expected to first-party your console's entire library, that way madness lies. The lack of games is just a symptom of the root problem: The Wii U is proving unattractive to third-party developers. That could be for several reasons. It could be, as I've always felt, that the screen controller arrangement is just too obnoxious a gimmick to have to work with. Or it could be that Nintendo is just too obnoxious a company to have to work with.

Honestly, it's like watching the first of three roped-together blind people step off a cliff. Except the other two aren't blind, and have merely put their hands over their ears. And are loudly singing songs about what a lovely time everyone's going to have when they've all been dashed upon the rocks below. And the one thing that the Wii U does right - backwards compatibility - seems to be the first thing everyone wants to fling from the hot air balloon.

I heard the arguments the last time I brought this up. It's simply not practical to make the new consoles backwards compatible, the hardware's too clumsy, the emulation's too intensive, blah de blah de blah. If that's the case, then don't make a new console. If it can't be done, then you drop the f***ing idea right then and there until it can. Full stop. Exclamation mark. The only way a new console is in any way justifiable is as an UPGRADE of the existing generation's console, not a f***ing replacement for it. You CANNOT replace a library of hundreds of games with a library of ZERO games and tell us it's an improvement. That is f***ing bonkers.

But for the first time I have such a crushing sense of foreboding for everything about this upcoming console generation that I don't want any part of it. I don't want to acquire a PS4 or an always-on Xbox even for work purposes, let alone for personal entertainment. The console industry as it stands is unsustainable and heading for the cliff edge. You only need to look at that Adam Orth "deal with it" tweet to see the writing on the wall. The new generation of consoles is a desperate let's-see-what-we-can-get-away-with lunge from a dying beast, and now they're not even trying to pretend that it will improve the gaming experience. They're going to force online measures to stamp out pre-owned games, they're going to erase your histories, and they're going to throw entire generations of games to the wind. And you, consumer, can just "deal with it".

Don't mistake this for doomsaying. Gaming's future lies in non-exclusivity, reasonable costs, unrestricted development and access to games from the entire history of the medium. All of which are anathema to the console industry as it stands but are fueling an increasingly healthy and invigorating PC and mobile/tablet scene. Ditch the PS4 midnight launch and spend your evening building a decent gaming PC instead. I would.

RPGAddict4Ever

By your logic, The SNES, Sega Saturn, N64, and Gamecube should not have been made.  None of those systms had backward compatiblity, and they were great.  I fail to see how current generation games not be able to be played on a next generation console is the end of the world.  If people just hang on to their systems, then the library does not have to go waste.  I do not know why you are necessarily hating on PS4 or Wii U.  Sony already has said that it is up to the publisher whether or not to charge for used games.  Gaikai will be used as a form of backwards compatibility.  You could whine about paying to play your old games again, but aren't you doing that anyway when purchasing a backwards compatible system?  PC has done the same crap.  You cannot go back and play old games that were on floppy disks inside the machines of today.  There were also games such as doom that were rereleased on CD rom because DOS was on its way out the door. 

As for complaining about the Wii U, yes, it does not have a lot of games that show off what it can do.  Then again, it only has been out seven months.  The PS3's first seventh were worse than what the Wii U has right now.  The coolest games the PS3 had were Resistance 1, Motorstorm 1, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.   

Your complaints fall on deaf ears.  Backwards compatibility was never a standard in consoles.  It is a nice thing to have, but not a requirement for new hardware.  BC hardware has issues with certain titles a lot of the time, so  it is actually better for a game to be played on the system it was intended for. 

i didn't write all that. i got that from an article

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/10300-We-Really-Really-Dont-Need-New-Consoles

Terrible read for the start of my Sunday.

I need a fourth cup of coffee because reading that drivel sucked my energy away.

I'm saving up to build a gaming PC right now because I don't care for where gaming is going - everything's a sequel and it's probably been bastardized into some Call of Duty clone to try and cash in on that audience.  With a PC I can go back and play some of my favorites from this generation with better graphics, frame rates, and mod's.  And of course play whatever new games interest me.

I'll still get a PS4 next year though because there are a lot of games, both Sony exclusives and multi-plat's, that aren't released on PC.  In a world where most games don't interest me I have to maximize my options so as to be able to play all those that do. 

gaming is dead cuz drugs are betterBLBxLakers24

drugs are vely bad for u.

Of course, you can't be expected to first-party your console's entire library, that way madness lies. The lack of games is just a symptom of the root problem: The Wii U is proving unattractive to third-party developers. That could be for several reasons. It could be, as I've always felt, that the screen controller arrangement is just too obnoxious a gimmick to have to work with. Or it could be that Nintendo is just too obnoxious a company to have to work with.

Honestly, it's like watching the first of three roped-together blind people step off a cliff. Except the other two aren't blind, and have merely put their hands over their ears. And are loudly singing songs about what a lovely time everyone's going to have when they've all been dashed upon the rocks below. And the one thing that the Wii U does right - backwards compatibility - seems to be the first thing everyone wants to fling from the hot air balloon.

I heard the arguments the last time I brought this up. It's simply not practical to make the new consoles backwards compatible, the hardware's too clumsy, the emulation's too intensive, blah de blah de blah. If that's the case, then don't make a new console. If it can't be done, then you drop the f***ing idea right then and there until it can. Full stop. Exclamation mark. The only way a new console is in any way justifiable is as an UPGRADE of the existing generation's console, not a f***ing replacement for it. You CANNOT replace a library of hundreds of games with a library of ZERO games and tell us it's an improvement. That is f***ing bonkers.

But for the first time I have such a crushing sense of foreboding for everything about this upcoming console generation that I don't want any part of it. I don't want to acquire a PS4 or an always-on Xbox even for work purposes, let alone for personal entertainment. The console industry as it stands is unsustainable and heading for the cliff edge. You only need to look at that Adam Orth "deal with it" tweet to see the writing on the wall. The new generation of consoles is a desperate let's-see-what-we-can-get-away-with lunge from a dying beast, and now they're not even trying to pretend that it will improve the gaming experience. They're going to force online measures to stamp out pre-owned games, they're going to erase your histories, and they're going to throw entire generations of games to the wind. And you, consumer, can just "deal with it".

Don't mistake this for doomsaying. Gaming's future lies in non-exclusivity, reasonable costs, unrestricted development and access to games from the entire history of the medium. All of which are anathema to the console industry as it stands but are fueling an increasingly healthy and invigorating PC and mobile/tablet scene. Ditch the PS4 midnight launch and spend your evening building a decent gaming PC instead. I would.

RPGAddict4Ever

After your previous thread looking for female ONLY to add to your friends list and the backlash that came soon after... everything you write now is spoiled and I can't get past what happened.

I find myself buying the older games (PS2 classics) for my newer console (PS3), which is pretty sad, everything is now a sequel, prequel, remade, upgrade, or just down-right silly.rwallacefan

That's total garbage. We're still getting great new IP's. Sounds like nostalgia has gotten to you.

I don't always see stupid topics, but when I do they look like this one.

i didn't write all that. i got that from an article

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/10300-We-Really-Really-Dont-Need-New-Consoles

RPGAddict4Ever

It's not, far from it, stupid, pointless thread.