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#1 PowerCharged
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ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is horrible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform. its not how you start, its how you finish.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

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ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is hriible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

PowerCharged

 

Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D 

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This does explain why he has a right to laugh.  He's a smart, smart man. 

I too am also waiting for Home :).

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Okay... Mr Obvious. Joking. :P
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[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is hriible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

Joshua102888

 

Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D

 

QFT. and i do think blu-ray is needed. look at lair 

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#6 PowerCharged
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[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

 

Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D

Joshua102888

thank you my friend.

SuperCharged is my PSN ID 

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#7 PowerCharged
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Okay... Mr Obvious. Joking. :PThomas-Crown

its quite obvious actually. people just need to remember why they bought a ps3. and i bought my ps3 because am certainly not interested in gimmicks or last gen tech. I want the Matrix. 

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He's laughing cuz he's out of the PS3 flame-zone forever after.
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[QUOTE="Joshua102888"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is hriible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

vip3r666

 

Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D

 

QFT. and i do think blu-ray is needed. look at lair 

I am seconding that QFT! People think SOny lost two days after they launched i see a delayed attacked. Home will be amazing but they REALLLY need headsets to come standard with consoles...
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[QUOTE="vip3r666"][QUOTE="Joshua102888"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is hriible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

NextGenNow

 

Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D

 

QFT. and i do think blu-ray is needed. look at lair

I am seconding that QFT! People think SOny lost two days after they launched i see a delayed attacked. Home will be amazing but they REALLLY need headsets to come standard with consoles...

im still waiting on sony branded headsets 

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He's laughing cuz he's out of the PS3 flame-zone forever after.Funglip
 there's a difference when you gettign flamed and you know you f***ed up but not when you getting flamed and you now you solid and safe in the long run! Thats why Kutagri probably doesn't pay attention or care about the people flamming the PS3! especially 2 years down the line whne everyone will be like f*** this man is a genious we where all wrong again!
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ill tell you why, because he fooled you. and here's how.

 

1.first of all blu- ray is not needed right now, but by september it will be.

reasons: tekken dark resurection is roughly 600MB and that game have a lot of CG cutscenes, while NGS demo is 1 gb and that DEMO has no CG cutcenes everything is rendered in realtime. now why is THAT? ill tell you because true nextgen games requires more space for textures, audio ect. as time passes games will indeed get bigger and there is a limit to how much you can compress and compressed audio is horrible.

 

2. Home will be an instant hit. ill admit that hated home at first, all i want to do is play online, but you have to admit that the idea when you have a clan and everybody is virtual and hanging out in the same room/lobby does sound fun, and plus its free so nobody will get hurt if they try it.

 

3. its not a sprint. even though PS3 sales arent that great it doesn't really hurt the console. its still getting great games and still has more AAA exclusive than any platform. its not how you start, its how you finish.

developers are using HDMi 1.2 specs even though the ps3 has HDMi 1.3, the ps3 does have a scaler and that also is not being used. its my guess that sony will be doing the same thing that he did with the psp, release a firmware update to give devs access to things

4. god of war 2 can stand up to any game on any platform, the gameplay is solid and the graphics are solid. my guess is that when the other consoles dies in 2008 and are replaced, ps3 games will be looking better and better and by then the user install base will be huge.

 

5.this gen is like no other, and sony's strategy is to not compete the same way they did last gen, they don't want to be force to release a new console every 5 years, with the ps3 being future proof, they can lay back and keep on cashing in while other companies are releasing new consoles. people shouldn't have to buy a new console every 5 years, it takes some games, 4 to 5 years to be made, so why shoul i buy game A on my ps2 and game B on my PS3?? if a console can indeed last 10 years developement cost for game B wouldn't have to be x million on another console just for a graphical upgrade.

ken was a visionary and planning for the future was his thing, the ps2 was prep for downloadable games even though his dreams didn't manifest, somehow he gave us a taste of what to come.

PowerCharged

Awesome post. 

I'm iffy on point #5 though. I understand there's lots of talk about this 10 yr thing. And maybe Sony does want us to hold onto our systems for 10 years. But I know I get the itch to play with some new hardware roughly every 4-5 years. :D 

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the ps3 is like a crazy dog when u think its not going to do anything and you turn your back on it it runs up and rips your ass off. or worst leave like that goat at that party:?. so for everybody who thinks ps3 three has flopped i think you want to walk away looking at it because then youll see why you picked the wrong system to try and diss cause when those games come out and oh they will then youll be sorry you said anything bad about the ps3. unless your xbot fanboy or won of those guy who think the way makes you cool. and thats why i love ps3
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whoops i meant wii :oops:
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One could look at it this way also, in 5 years when the "new" console comes out, it will possibly be remarkably better than the PS3 causing them to either create a new console to get with the program, or be left in the dust for 5 years waiting out the PS3's life cycle & causing PS3 owners to wonder why they dropped the ball & gave the "other" console such a huge lead considering the slow process of stealing thunder from current 1 year headstart console.  Just a scenario.  Many will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.  Anyone else out there see this as a possibility?

 Also, to topic creator.  How did you get a picture of MGS4 for xbox 360.  Is it photoshopped.  Just curious as I know it's a big battle between Sony & M$ fans over the exclusivity of this game.

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[QUOTE="Funglip"]He's laughing cuz he's out of the PS3 flame-zone forever after.freediro
 there's a difference when you gettign flamed and you know you f***ed up but not when you getting flamed and you now you solid and safe in the long run! Thats why Kutagri probably doesn't pay attention or care about the people flamming the PS3! especially 2 years down the line whne everyone will be like f*** this man is a genious we where all wrong again!

Ken might not needed to listen to the flammings from gamers/fanboys, but Sony's shareholders, Ken needed to make them believe PS3s gonna do it; or else... Conclusion: Ken have had alot of pressure, I think he's happier now.
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One could look at it this way also, in 5 years when the "new" console comes out, it will possibly be remarkably better than the PS3 causing them to either create a new console to get with the program, or be left in the dust for 5 years waiting out the PS3's life cycle & causing PS3 owners to wonder why they dropped the ball & gave the "other" console such a huge lead considering the slow process of stealing thunder from current 1 year headstart console.  Just a scenario.  Many will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.  Anyone else out there see this as a possibility?

 Also, to topic creator.  How did you get a picture of MGS4 for xbox 360.  Is it photoshopped.  Just curious as I know it's a big battle between Sony & M$ fans over the exclusivity of this game.

RaptorVenom

:lol: its a joke of what would happen if MGS4 went to the 360 because Kojima wants to use 50GB of space and a lot of that is sound, but of course he will still use a lot for the gameplay and stuff too and the joke is if they brought the game to the 360 (which won't happen) that's what it would look like and yes it is photoshopped.

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[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]

One could look at it this way also, in 5 years when the "new" console comes out, it will possibly be remarkably better than the PS3 causing them to either create a new console to get with the program, or be left in the dust for 5 years waiting out the PS3's life cycle & causing PS3 owners to wonder why they dropped the ball & gave the "other" console such a huge lead considering the slow process of stealing thunder from current 1 year headstart console.  Just a scenario.  Many will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.  Anyone else out there see this as a possibility?

 Also, to topic creator.  How did you get a picture of MGS4 for xbox 360.  Is it photoshopped.  Just curious as I know it's a big battle between Sony & M$ fans over the exclusivity of this game.

G-Legend

:lol: its a joke of what would happen if MGS4 went to the 360 because Kojima wants to use 50GB of space and a lot of that is sound, but of course he will still use a lot for the gameplay and stuff too and the joke is if they brought the game to the 360 (which won't happen) that's what it would look like and yes it is photoshopped.

It should really be 6 DVD9, which is 1/4 of that photo....
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Now believe me I love sony and i am indeed a cow, but i must say your ideas are absurd.  Infact those reasons you gave are the same reasons why ken was forced to resign as president. 

No matter what sony tells you, it IS a sprint, sales are every thing!  

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I'm a big proponent of rumble, but once that comes back the game review sites will bump of the review scores which will in turn make the PS3 games look a lot better. 
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Now believe me I love sony and i am indeed a cow, but i must say your ideas are absurd. Infact those reasons you gave are the same reasons why ken was forced to resign as president.

No matter what sony tells you, it IS a sprint, sales are every thing!

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Since when was Ken force to resign? He resigned yes? But Forced? That's new.
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[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]

One could look at it this way also, in 5 years when the "new" console comes out, it will possibly be remarkably better than the PS3 causing them to either create a new console to get with the program, or be left in the dust for 5 years waiting out the PS3's life cycle & causing PS3 owners to wonder why they dropped the ball & gave the "other" console such a huge lead considering the slow process of stealing thunder from current 1 year headstart console.  Just a scenario.  Many will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing.  Anyone else out there see this as a possibility?

 Also, to topic creator.  How did you get a picture of MGS4 for xbox 360.  Is it photoshopped.  Just curious as I know it's a big battle between Sony & M$ fans over the exclusivity of this game.

G-Legend

:lol: its a joke of what would happen if MGS4 went to the 360 because Kojima wants to use 50GB of space and a lot of that is sound, but of course he will still use a lot for the gameplay and stuff too and the joke is if they brought the game to the 360 (which won't happen) that's what it would look like and yes it is photoshopped.

Thanks for explaining, now that I know what it's about, it's actually funny.

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I'm a big proponent of rumble, but once that comes back the game review sites will bump of the review scores which will in turn make the PS3 games look a lot better. mikeslemonade

if rumble is implemented well then im all for it. MGS is just the game that can do that 

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[QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]

One could look at it this way also, in 5 years when the "new" console comes out, it will possibly be remarkably better than the PS3 causing them to either create a new console to get with the program, or be left in the dust for 5 years waiting out the PS3's life cycle & causing PS3 owners to wonder why they dropped the ball & gave the "other" console such a huge lead considering the slow process of stealing thunder from current 1 year headstart console. Just a scenario. Many will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing. Anyone else out there see this as a possibility?

Also, to topic creator. How did you get a picture of MGS4 for xbox 360. Is it photoshopped. Just curious as I know it's a big battle between Sony & M$ fans over the exclusivity of this game.

Funglip

:lol: its a joke of what would happen if MGS4 went to the 360 because Kojima wants to use 50GB of space and a lot of that is sound, but of course he will still use a lot for the gameplay and stuff too and the joke is if they brought the game to the 360 (which won't happen) that's what it would look like and yes it is photoshopped.

It should really be 6 DVD9, which is 1/4 of that photo....

i know, but like this lemmings will know the horror of lack of space. 

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That was a good read.  I give you a *star*
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#26 SirRaven
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Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D Joshua102888

expect no less from a thread by Kaz Hirai, himself.

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#27 Joshua102888
Member since 2005 • 190 Posts

[QUOTE="Joshua102888"]Very good read, and a strong post if i might add :D SirRaven

expect no less from a thread by Kaz Hirai, himself.

lol, MGS4 will speak for itself. Damnit i love the series so much, cannot wait to see how this will turn out, specially on the mother of consoles...the ps3 :)