Why so few PS1 downloads for EU PSP.

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#1 bobbycuckoo
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I have just looked on the japanese PSP store and the amount of PS1 titles is amazing, it includes
FF7
FF8
FF9
MGS
Resi evil 1,2 and 3

Why isnt SCEE catching up with this, id be happy to pay to have them on my PS3 and PSP, (i like having retro collections at hand).
I dont want use unofficial firmware,
If SCEE realized the monetry potential to HURRY UP, it could also help cut down piracy.
It just seems a bit unfair at the mo.

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We have the same problem in the US. I wouldn't be able to put my PSP down if I could have some of those games.

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#3 bobbycuckoo
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We have the same problem in the US. I wouldn't be able to put my PSP down if I could have some of those games.

jimkabrhel

tell me about it, its been a long time since i played ff8 and 9, the PSP is a great place for a replay,....why the delay SCEE

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#4 pooyanh
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Why so many pirates in EU/US? Support Sony and they will support you!
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#5 Mckenna1845
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holy crap that list is so awesome, they should really release them in eu and us.
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#6 HoldThePhone
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is it possible to make a japanese PSN account?
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#7 LilVeal
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Yes it is possible to do so . :O :O :O I hope they put those titles out in North America soon also! The ones that are out are like .........

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#8 dkdk999
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i agree there would be much less piracy if sony released those here. I would be happy to pay for them.
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#9 DaMattGuy-360XL
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YES! Or at least made English translated versions available for download off a Japanese account. Not everyone can fluently read Japanese! *cough*me*cough*
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#10 bobbycuckoo
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YES! Or at least made English translated versions available for download off a Japanese account. Not everyone can fluently read Japanese! *cough*me*cough*DaMattGuy-360XL
These are all games that have already been through the translation process (tho not always well). So i just dont understand the delay, no real dev time so its just money waitin to be made. I can only think its licencess and copyright issues, either that or execs in suits that dont understand the potential. But with retro gaming so relevant at the mo this is just stupid.
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#11 daniel79
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Why so many pirates in EU/US? Support Sony and they will support you!pooyanh

First off we have supported Sony, we bought a PSP?

Second, if they made the PSP more accesible in the first place and wasnt so anal about what you can and cant do on such a great piece of kit then that would cut down on piracy tenfold.

If Sony got off they're fat backsides and actually brought out even half of the PS1 games that you can play on a PSP then they'd be onto a winner. I live inengland and just the other day I saw a friend playing FF7 on his PSP. Okay, it may not have been legitimate but if Sony are going to be thick then what do they expect. Of course people are going to turn to the dark side if the technology is there but not actually being used in the right way by it's own official company...

It stands to reason.

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#12 Talldude80
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well as long as you pick a country that has the same language you speak (mexico/spain, UK/USA) you wont have problems with multiple accounts on the PSN (it just asks for a physical address and an email address). think of it as making an account for your distant cousin or something, except that you'll use the account.

The problem I have is when there are great games for download in a country like Japan but NOT in the other countries. I can read some spanish and french, but there's no way I have time to learn Japanese (or any other language that uses a different alphabet). I just wish $ony would make ALL the same downloads available to ALL regions.

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#13 pooyanh
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[QUOTE="pooyanh"]Why so many pirates in EU/US? Support Sony and they will support you!daniel79

First off we have supported Sony, we bought a PSP?

Second, if they made the PSP more accesible in the first place and wasnt so anal about what you can and cant do on such a great piece of kit then that would cut down on piracy tenfold.

If Sony got off they're fat backsides and actually brought out even half of the PS1 games that you can play on a PSP then they'd be onto a winner. I live inengland and just the other day I saw a friend playing FF7 on his PSP. Okay, it may not have been legitimate but if Sony are going to be thick then what do they expect. Of course people are going to turn to the dark side if the technology is there but not actually being used in the right way by it's own official company...

It stands to reason.

LOL. So you have supported Sony enough with buying the PSP? What about all the money they put into making/publishing games?
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#15 pooyanh
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How do the pirates get the game on their psp?

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#16 HoldThePhone
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[QUOTE="daniel79"]

[QUOTE="pooyanh"]Why so many pirates in EU/US? Support Sony and they will support you!pooyanh

First off we have supported Sony, we bought a PSP?

Second, if they made the PSP more accesible in the first place and wasnt so anal about what you can and cant do on such a great piece of kit then that would cut down on piracy tenfold.

If Sony got off they're fat backsides and actually brought out even half of the PS1 games that you can play on a PSP then they'd be onto a winner. I live inengland and just the other day I saw a friend playing FF7 on his PSP. Okay, it may not have been legitimate but if Sony are going to be thick then what do they expect. Of course people are going to turn to the dark side if the technology is there but not actually being used in the right way by it's own official company...

It stands to reason.

LOL. So you have supported Sony enough with buying the PSP? What about all the money they put into making/publishing games?

I understand people who put old games on their PSP, there's no reason to be against that really. But downloading $40 titles as soon as they release is kind of terrible, i could never do that.
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#17 dkdk999
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Why so many pirates in EU/US? Support Sony and they will support you!pooyanh
mmm im fine not supporting sony :) I'm just saying i would support sony if they ported games to it. And I personally agree with the guy above that i can't see anything bad about downloading really old games.
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#18 jasontdoto
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Piracy is in music and movies industry as well(i know you all know about this). does that stop movie companies and singers from making good movies? and what happens when a movie like dark knight comes out? some people end up going to the theatres and watching it twice and more times. does that stop the people that do piracy from stealing dark knight and making illegal copies? no. but the amount of money made through legitimate sales is enough to cover for the expanses incurred in making the movie. i think what sony needs to do is keep coming up with high quality games like : CC, GOW, retribution, killzone, syphon filter both, and improve on the ported version before releasing it to psp (star wars: force unleashed etc.) Also I would gladly pay $5- $10 for old ps1/ps2 quality games that i never got to try on my psp.. FF games, resident evil games to name a few. if Sony can solve that problem and make the psN network much better in terms of offering old games, piracy would cut back by a lot. the amount of money they would make would be enough to reduce the damages done from piracy and they would still make a profit. you cannot win against piracy, what you can do is minimize the loses and offer options to people that will pay and play legit. example: my psp is legit and i would very much like to give my money to sony for old games if they released it and that way me and others that are willing to pay won't be missing out on anything and we will gladly purchase it legit. now someone need to pass this message to sony. i am sure they don;t follow this forums.
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#19 jasontdoto
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correction from my old post: if PSN network was improved piracy would not cut back because people that chose to pirate will continue. what will happen though is sony will make more profit from people that are willing to pay and that will increase their profit margin. more money for Sony = better serverice and games = happier customers that pay. stop worrying about the pirates and worry about the legit customers who pay. service them good and you have yourself a cash cow.
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correction from my old post: if PSN network was improved piracy would not cut back because people that chose to pirate will continue. what will happen though is sony will make more profit from people that are willing to pay and that will increase their profit margin. more money for Sony = better serverice and games = happier customers that pay. stop worrying about the pirates and worry about the legit customers who pay. service them good and you have yourself a cash cow. jasontdoto

QFT

The fact of the matter is, some/most of us know of people in the black market but we decide to pay for things for a whole range of reason, and at the end of the day, your paying wages, getting [hopefully] an awsome game, and supporting sony and the developers against the EVIL nintendo wii and dsi. So weres the problem?

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#21 bobbycuckoo
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The problem is at the moment that we cant even pay for a better service cus it isnt there. The lack of support makes piracy more tempting. Personally i wouldnt use piracy for anything I believe to be a good quality product or something i will get enjoyment out of. Lets face it if everybody used piracy there wouldnt be anything left to pirate. eg. If everybody had downloaded season 3 of family guy instead of buying the DVD we wouldnt have had anymore, and that would be too awful to think of. If u think something is good BUY IT, some money then goes back to the devs who make more games, obvious i know but I cant stand the smugness of people who steal. So come on sony europe and america (ive just looked at ur line up, its pretty poor too), u really need to help us out and give us something to buy, sony japan obviously get it, why dont u.
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#22 bobbycuckoo
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This is a post from a thread on psn that a guy called futsio contributed, its good to see someone really doing, he has been emailing SCEE and here are some of the fruits of his labour.

"I got a Reply!

Actually I got 2 replies!

Both were exactly the same generic replies from 2 different operators but hey- it's a start.

my email was as follows:-

Dear Sony.

Why has the psp store in Japan have well over 100 titles for the psone back catalogue, whareas the UK site has a grossly lesser amount of titles?
I have emailed sony about this several times, each one has had no reply.
Just in case the other email didn't reach you I shall again voice my opinion, which is shared throughout the UK.
Please improve the store content!
As far as I can see, the only thing letting the PS3/PSP down against the Xbox market is the online content.
Japan has (for example) Devil Dice, Metal Gear Solid, all the crash titles, All the Resident evil and Dino Crisis, Tekken 2 the list goes on.....(and thats the PSone titles alone)
Most of the customers in europe are under the impression that SCEE can't be bothered- and we don't know why.
The fact that the only contact email for sony is the sony help desk, plus the fact that none of my emails have been answered just goes further to proves my point.
This argument has been going on since day one on the forums, yet no answer as to why the ps store content is so poor, has been forthcoming from Sony.
We all feel that you're happy to take our money and then give us nothing back in return.
I know that publishing rights and other such legal red-tape may prevent some of the games getting onto the store, but it can't be that many. The Psone has a most impressive back catalogue of titles, and it's a shame to see that the next gen are missing out on some top ****gaming. Add to that, the fact that the publishers are liable to make more profits from games thay made over 10 years ago (with no more work as far as I can tell), and The Psp games-base more or less doubling overnight (got to be a plus against the DS) and we're all left scratching our heads in bemusement.
The longer that sony ignores this situation, the more customers will be tempted to the dark side of custom firmware. I personally, would rather pay £3-£5 than risk bricking my psp, but many others wouldn't.
So please answer the follwing:
Why dont Sony allow more customer input?
Why is the Content so poor?
Why is Sony, seemingly, ignoring the complaints?

Please, please, please send an answer this time, and I promise I'l buy a PS3 to go with my PSP! (any chance of a deal?)

Yours Hopefully

xxxxxxxxxxxx, and all the other PSP owners.

the answer was as follows:-

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding the PlayStation Store.

I understand from your correspondence that you feel aggrieved with some differences between the UK PlayStation Store and that of other territories.

When managing the PlayStation Store, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) aims to provide consistent content experiences, globally. In some cases we, in Europe, are first to publish content. However, we do publish some content later than the Japanese, American and Korean Stores. The reasons for this are varied as I am sure you can imagine with each piece of content having to go through procedures ranging from Quality Assurance to legal approvals. In addition, Europe is subject to a far greater degree of language and content localisation than in other territories which must be taken into account. We aim to provide our consumers with access to all PS Store content that is appropriate to them, wherever they are in the world as soon as is possible.

I trust that this information is useful. Should you have any further hardware related queries please contact the PlayStation Careline on 08705 99 88 77, quoting reference xxxxxxx, where a member of our team will be happy to assist you.


Best regards,

2 of those to be exact.

I've replied thus:-


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Dear Gary.

I've sent 2 emails to SCEE regarding the situation about the lacklustre content of psone titles on the UK store, both were answered with a generic identical reply, which doesn't answer any of my questions.
Why aren't more of the Psone titles that were released already in the UK on the playstation console released on the store for the PSP/PS3?
You do realise I was talking about the Psone titles?
The Psone tiles must be already set up for use in this country, as they've already been Quality Tested,age rated, published, translated, legally aproved and any other hoops that have to be jumped through to get a game released in the Uk and other european countries, haven't they?
Your reply doesn't explain to me why titles that are already available in the UK market (although, probably not new) can't be transferred over to the Ps Store for the customers, giving us more of an enjoyable and worthwhile experience.
Why are games like Tekken 1,2 and 3, Devil Dice, Wipeout 2097 and Wip3out, Gran Turismo 1&2, Soul Blade, Abes oddysey &exodus, Final Fantasy etc in the Uk even though they've had all the above already done to them?
Does SCEE still own the rights to these games?
Surely there's nothing but profit to be made from these old titles going onto the store?
Couldn't customers request titles to be put onto the store on a monthly basis?

I look forward to an original answer.

Yours Hopefully."- from a post by futsio

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=59&thread.id=37203&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

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#23 -Hoax-
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I would like loads of PS1 titles to come games like Chrono trigger, Chrono Cross and other classics what i havnt played yet
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#24 futsio
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just returning the compliment. here's the link to the playstation forum. http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=59&message.id=38378#M38378 If you see forums like these, then leave your opinion. If you feel as strongly as I do ( and many others ) send SCEE an email. We need Sony to realise that there is a potential market for these games on the UK store. If you don't make any noise, then you won't get heard.
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#25 fend_oblivion
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Sony has said that they've been focussing mostly on the PS3. And looks like it paid off. The PS3 is doing great. That is why they bolstered the current PSP library with a lot of wicked games that are coming up. Link

So all in all, its good news for Sony users. And E3 - they got lots of great stuff which they are itching to reveal. And - Capcom has expressed interest to bring the all its old great games to PSN. We're getting what we want. Where's the link? Here

If we are even luckier, Sony might just allow digital downloads for comics to read on the PSP. Link

Yay! :D

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#26 bobbycuckoo
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I glad sony are focusing on PS3, but psn covers both, and u can download the ps1 games onto the ps3. Id like to have a hard library of the old classics, then pop them onto the psp. The remote play is starting to improve too which opens more avenues.