why sony had stopped making BC ps3 consoles?

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#1 Lycanthropy24
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today finding an older 80gb PS3 that has backward compatability with ps2/1 games is very hard and the new 160gb doesn't have that feature either, why? and may I missed anything and they do plan to make that option availble in the future? I do have a ps2, yet if someday the ps2 will get cranked and i'll miss the old games, I'd like my ps3 to be able to play em. =\
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#2 MAILER_DAEMON
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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.
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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.MAILER_DAEMON

This. Yeah, their punks over at sony. But what can I say, they got MGS4.

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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.MAILER_DAEMON
That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.Eddie5vs1
That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.

Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasm
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.Canvas_Of_Flesh
That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.

Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasm

:lol:......no, she'd hit me if I did that. :? :cry: :P
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[QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.Eddie5vs1
Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasm

:lol:......no, she'd hit me if I did that. :? :cry: :P

Married gamers have it tough lol, as I'm one of them... my wife isn't into gaming so its tougher for me to want to buy consoles.
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"] Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasmPrince_Denspion
:lol:......no, she'd hit me if I did that. :? :cry: :P

Married gamers have it tough lol, as I'm one of them... my wife isn't into gaming so its tougher for me to want to buy consoles.

Absolutely. My wife won't even sit in the room when I play. I also have a 6 year old daughter which means no M rated games until she's in bed.
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I kinda anticipated a price drop shortly after BC was removed... wishful thinking... :roll:
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"] Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasmPrince_Denspion
:lol:......no, she'd hit me if I did that. :? :cry: :P

Married gamers have it tough lol, as I'm one of them... my wife isn't into gaming so its tougher for me to want to buy consoles.

I don't :P My wife loves to play :D
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.

It's a shame consumers don't see this from a mile away.
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Who know's what Sony's reason was. They've changed their business model for the PS3 so many times it's hard to understand what they're trying to build. In any event we're purchasing something with alot of after-thoughts added or removed which is pretty lame.
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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.MAILER_DAEMON
that but personally i think that sucks, want to play the first god of war games but my ps2 won't run them and so won't my ps3, looks like i'll never get to play the originals :( and no i'm not going to buy another ps2...
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"] Do what I do! Slam your fist on the table and tell that woman that she can't tell you what to do. /sarcasmPrince_Denspion
:lol:......no, she'd hit me if I did that. :? :cry: :P

Married gamers have it tough lol, as I'm one of them... my wife isn't into gaming so its tougher for me to want to buy consoles.

Do what I do tell your wife you got it "for the kids" :) I buy all my toys for "the kids"
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.

Your not missing much. I bought the PS3 with BC and have only used it twice. It's just too hard and too ugly to play PS2 games after you've played PS3 games. No going back for me. Personally I'd rather have saved the $200 than had BC
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"God of War" Man that game is a beast. The thing that made me make the jump for a PS3 was when I bought GoW2 and it wouldnt play in the PS2. If it didnt have BC I would have bought a 360 and a PS2 (NOT a PS3). BC is the only thing that kept me from making the switch, its really a shame they did this.
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#17 --Rob--
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.EmperorSupreme
Your not missing much. I bought the PS3 with BC and have only used it twice. It's just too hard and too ugly to play PS2 games after you've played PS3 games. No going back for me. Personally I'd rather have saved the $200 than had BC

Completely disagree. Use it all the time. First game I even played when I got it was GoW2 while ninja gaiden, motorstorm, and CoD4 just sat there. With the PS2 library and its classics I find it hard to say that someones "not missing much". Thats crazy IMO.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] That sucks though. For some reason I never picked up a ps2 and I'd really like to play through the first two God of War game. I've got enough system as it is, there's no way the wife would allow another one and I don't think I have connections on my tv for another input source.--Rob--
Your not missing much. I bought the PS3 with BC and have only used it twice. It's just too hard and too ugly to play PS2 games after you've played PS3 games. No going back for me. Personally I'd rather have saved the $200 than had BC

Completely disagree. Use it all the time. First game I even played when I got it was GoW2 while ninja gaiden, motorstorm, and CoD4 just sat there. With the PS2 library and its classics I find it hard to say that someones "not missing much". Thats crazy IMO.

I can't even keep up with the games coming out for PS3 so it's just hard for me to want to play PS2 :) I've spent so much time on Fallout3, Little Big Planet and Rockband2 that I still have Resistance2 and Valkyria Chronicles to play and now Killzone2 is coming out.
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If anyone is looking for a backwards compatible 60gb or 80gb system, go to the Gamestop website... you can order refurbished systems and they don't cost some ridiculous price like on Ebay or Amazon... I'm pretty sure the 60gb's are $430 and the 80gb's are $450.

I think an extra $30-50 is worth it for a fully functional system, instead of the crap Sony is trying to pass off as a Playstation 3 now.

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I could be way off here but I personally think its due to

1. cost

2. still supporting the PS2, which is a good thing

3. I do believe the majority of consoles which failed in some way were the ones with BC although I don't know for sure but it just seems alot of the posts I read with people saying their PS3 died had the older BC models.

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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.MAILER_DAEMON
If this were true, then why would they offer BC to begin with? Wouldn't it have been better to never introduce the idea? Maybe, just maybe, they took it away because morons kept complaining about the cost?
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#22 PSP107
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Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.MAILER_DAEMON
The Making ppl getting a PS2 is one possibe reason while reducing cost is another. I dont get it, i was able to snag a MGS4 BC PS3 back in aug and i read that Software BC doesnt cost sony nothing? If that true, why take that away. Also sony made a bad move because i think they would of sold more PS3s if had BC. BC will also mean PS3 ppl buying new PS2 games. Isnt RPGs still going strong on PS2?
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Basically because they'd rather you give them more money by getting a PS2, a PS2 memory card, and a DualShock 2 if you want to do multiplayer on it. Contrast that with a b/c PS3, where you can make a virtual memory card on the PS3's hard drive and use a DualShock 3 to play the games. Supposedly it's a cost-saving measure for newer PS3s, but it's mainly so they can keep PS2 sales high.PS3videos
If this were true, then why would they offer BC to begin with? Wouldn't it have been better to never introduce the idea? Maybe, just maybe, they took it away because morons kept complaining about the cost?

And for those that doubt that it cuts the cost of the PS3 here is a comparison between the two pieces of hardware.

http://gamerzgalore.net/fullNews.php?newsId=148

As the helpful Rambus representatives explained to me, their business is the design and implementation of integrated memory and chips in various consumer electronics, including a particular Sony videogame console. They had helped Sony to create the original hardware for the PS3 launch hardware, and later, had also helped refine the PS3 motherboard into a more efficient and streamlined system.

In this photo, the Rambus rep is pointing to a launch-era PS3 motherboard; that particular area on the left is essentially a PS2, contained within the PS3 architecture — the fabled "Emotion Engine." The board above it is a much more recent iteration of the PS3 hardware. You can see, it's quite a bit more compact, made smaller by the conspicuous removal of the leftmost portion of the board.

PS3

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#24 PSP107
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I miss EE even though i have Software BC