why would sony remove backwards compatibility?

that wasnt a very smart move, yes it decreases production costs, but i wouldnt buy it now especially with the bad game lineup this year, most people still play ps2 games since not many good ps3 ones are out, they should just sell one model for 500$ and end it they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole. i think ill just stick to my ps2 until sony makes up their mind with their new console

that wasnt a very smart move, yes it decreases production costs, but i wouldnt buy it now especially with the bad game lineup this year, most people still play ps2 games since not many good ps3 ones are out, they should just sell one model for 500$ and end it they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole. i think ill just stick to my ps2 until sony makes up their mind with their new console

yayyfood

Most games people will play they will probably emulate. Don't bash emulation- it isn't bad. Just you can't play obscure games. P.S.: This is for a blog. No one really cares if you stick to your PS2. If you wanted a PS3, you'd buy one now because really... $700 isn't much if people decided to get a job and work (Unless your in university/college). It's not the 'best' move, but it's not a negative move either. Why I'm even responding I don't know. In the end your just an immature kid (troll).

SONY isn't removing backwards compatibility. They're opting out for software emulation. It's the same thing that Microsoft and Nintendo both use for their new consoles. In fact, SONY has the best compatibility rate of all the manufacturers. I believe the compatibility rate is somewhere around 85%.

85% of about 5000 PS One and PS2 games is pretty good.

Besides, if it such a big deal to you, go get a PS3 with the EE built in while you still can. In some respects, it pays to be an early adopter.

Besides, if it such a big deal to you, go get a PS3 with the EE built in while you still can. In some respects, it pays to be an early adopter.

knicknut17

that wasnt a very smart move, yes it decreases production costs, but i wouldnt buy it now especially with the bad game lineup this year, most people still play ps2 games since not many good ps3 ones are out, they should just sell one model for 500$ and end it they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole. i think ill just stick to my ps2 until sony makes up their mind with their new console

yayyfood

the 60gb you can get right now has the ee and therefore hardware bc and plays your ps2 games and it is $500 - so it meets all your criteria. just buy it.

yea i know what emulation is haha i would rather not have to buy my games over again i mean i have alot of roms and stuff on my computer so im not bashing emulation or anything i love it, i know theiir only doing it to the new ones not the old ones but i would just prefer backwards comp, cuzz i have alot of games that i dont want to be rebuying like the wii is doing. the bottom line is i am going to eventually buy one but i would rather have backwards then emulators because of the above stated, i mean why pay for games when you already have them? but if you dont then emulators are the way to go hence the fact they got rid of the 20gig, theyre expecting people to fill up more space with the emulators

yea if they want to make more money take off blu ray, when is that going to be used for games anyways? i mean sure it saves you money for a bluray player which cost more than the ps3 itself but dont they want to make money, theyre losing like 200$ for each ps3 they sell, i mean taking the EE away so it cuts down on production costs could help them and it will eventually help us but if they really wanted to make the ps3 profitable they would get rid of blue ray

yea i know what emulation is haha i would rather not have to buy my games over again i mean i have alot of roms and stuff on my computer so im not bashing emulation or anything i love it, i know theiir only doing it to the new ones not the old ones but i would just prefer backwards comp, cuzz i have alot of games that i dont want to be rebuying like the wii is doing. the bottom line is i am going to eventually buy one but i would rather have backwards then emulators because of the above stated, i mean why pay for games when you already have them? but if you dont then emulators are the way to go hence the fact they got rid of the 20gig, theyre expecting people to fill up more space with the emulators

yayyfood

I'm not quite sure on what you mean. from this post it sounds like you think that 80G PS3's wont be able to play previous gen game discs. If that is what you think then you'll be happy to know that that's not true. You will still be able to use your discs. There will not be a Virtual Console like the Wii does (where you have to wait for roms to be released and then you have to buy them). The PS2 and PS hardware will be emulated to run the discs, not a emulator program to run roms.

yea i know what emulation is haha i would rather not have to buy my games over again i mean i have alot of roms and stuff on my computer so im not bashing emulation or anything i love it, i know theiir only doing it to the new ones not the old ones but i would just prefer backwards comp, cuzz i have alot of games that i dont want to be rebuying like the wii is doing. the bottom line is i am going to eventually buy one but i would rather have backwards then emulators because of the above stated, i mean why pay for games when you already have them? but if you dont then emulators are the way to go hence the fact they got rid of the 20gig, theyre expecting people to fill up more space with the emulators

yayyfood

you SAY you know what the emulator is but you really don't. the emulator inside the PS3 mimics the emotion engine so that you can put your PS2 or PS1 games into the machine and play them. You don't have to re-buy anything, just insert the disc and play. The emulator makes the PS3 work the same way it does now, there will just be a few games you won't be able to play until the software gets upgraded

Ok to start off I was going to agree with him, I would prefer to just pop in my PS2 game and play it and Upgrade my Harddrive on my own, But maybe I missed something, Is it going to be able to still play most of the games once the EE is taken out just by putting them in and having your PS3 connected online or is it going to be like the crap that MS does and you just have to wait and see if the game is going to be BC and if it will be added at random times in the future. I already have all three consoles so it doesnt really matter but I am just curious, Because it wont seem like that bad of an idea as long as most games will be playable from the start.

Ok to start off I was going to agree with him, I would prefer to just pop in my PS2 game and play it and Upgrade my Harddrive on my own, But maybe I missed something, Is it going to be able to still play most of the games once the EE is taken out just by putting them in and having your PS3 connected online or is it going to be like the crap that MS does and you just have to wait and see if the game is going to be BC and if it will be added at random times in the future. I already have all three consoles so it doesnt really matter but I am just curious, Because it wont seem like that bad of an idea as long as most games will be playable from the start.

Apocalypse324

If you checked the Backwards Compatible list you'll see that most games works. At least I haven't found a PS2 game that hasn't worked yet. Besides with software emulation you can upscale the game which works great (imo at least), I believe that's not possible with the EE chip but I could be wrong. Though sure people play PS2 games now but a year or two it won't matter. Sony is looking at the long run.

And dude by putting the blu ray in they're winning (haven't won yet) the format war. Have you checked the hd format sales after PS3 came. since PS3 came blu ray has been in the lead (of disc sales, since PS3 is not considered a blu ray player). Besides blu ray has been helpful for developers. GTAIV said something about not fitting all on one dvd. And PGR4 I think also had problems with disc space. + we can get a bunch of goodies like Stranglehold + Hard boiled.

they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole.

yayyfood

sorry but i thought that sony was making money on each console now that production costs are cheaper now

yea i know what emulation is haha i would rather not have to buy my games over again i mean i have alot of roms and stuff on my computer so im not bashing emulation or anything i love it, i know theiir only doing it to the new ones not the old ones but i would just prefer backwards comp, cuzz i have alot of games that i dont want to be rebuying like the wii is doing. the bottom line is i am going to eventually buy one but i would rather have backwards then emulators because of the above stated, i mean why pay for games when you already have them? but if you dont then emulators are the way to go hence the fact they got rid of the 20gig, theyre expecting people to fill up more space with the emulators

yayyfood

your pure ignorance of the subject amazes me beyond belief

yea if they want to make more money take off blu ray, when is that going to be used for games anyways? i mean sure it saves you money for a bluray player which cost more than the ps3 itself but dont they want to make money, theyre losing like 200$ for each ps3 they sell, i mean taking the EE away so it cuts down on production costs could help them and it will eventually help us but if they really wanted to make the ps3 profitable they would get rid of blue ray

yayyfood

Where is Back Compat list? Pretty plz??MassEffector

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/

SONY isn't removing backwards compatibility. They're opting out for software emulation. It's the same thing that Microsoft and Nintendo both use for their new consoles. In fact, SONY has the best compatibility rate of all the manufacturers. I believe the compatibility rate is somewhere around 85%.

85% of about 5000 PS One and PS2 games is pretty good.

Besides, if it such a big deal to you, go get a PS3 with the EE built in while you still can. In some respects, it pays to be an early adopter.

knicknut17

yea i know what emulation is haha i would rather not have to buy my games over again i mean i have alot of roms and stuff on my computer so im not bashing emulation or anything i love it, i know theiir only doing it to the new ones not the old ones but i would just prefer backwards comp, cuzz i have alot of games that i dont want to be rebuying like the wii is doing. the bottom line is i am going to eventually buy one but i would rather have backwards then emulators because of the above stated, i mean why pay for games when you already have them? but if you dont then emulators are the way to go hence the fact they got rid of the 20gig, theyre expecting people to fill up more space with the emulators

yayyfood

so is the EE chip stil that expensive? does it still cost them like 100 dollars to manufacture it? if they can make an entire PS2 for brand new and sell it for 150$ or so i can't see how eliminating the EE chip will really help cut costs.

oh well i guess every little bit helps. but with that logic in mind why don't they get rid of some of it's other features to cut costs? not raising them by adding another 20 GB to the HD (wich i think most people will agree both Sony and MS are screwing the public of HD storage to cost ratio)

that wasnt a very smart move, yes it decreases production costs, but i wouldnt buy it now especially with the bad game lineup this year, most people still play ps2 games since not many good ps3 ones are out, they should just sell one model for 500$ and end it they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole. i think ill just stick to my ps2 until sony makes up their mind with their new console

yayyfood

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that wasnt a very smart move, yes it decreases production costs, but i wouldnt buy it now especially with the bad game lineup this year, most people still play ps2 games since not many good ps3 ones are out, they should just sell one model for 500$ and end it they are already losing money for each sonsole they sell their just digging themselves deeper into a hole. i think ill just stick to my ps2 until sony makes up their mind with their new console

joevfx

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Simple as that.