will 4gb Vita memory card be enough for FFX HD when it releases.

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#1 Gary4safc
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Hey guys, Getting my vita very soon I hope lol. I heard about FFX coming sometime for the ps3/Vita I have a 4gb memory card coming with it I just wandered if it would be enough just for this game and game saves of course. I probably wouldn't download anything else just this game. Cheers guys.

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#2 Newhopes
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Probably no, if I remember rightly FFX was about 4gb on the PS2 .

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#3 p4s2p0
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Should if its a vita game
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#4 p4s2p0
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Probably no, if I remember rightly FFX was about 4gb on the PS2 .

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I haven't heard anything about ps2 classics yet. So it will probably be a vita game which aren't as big
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#5 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

Probably no, if I remember rightly FFX was about 4gb on the PS2 .

p4s2p0

I haven't heard anything about ps2 classics yet. So it will probably be a vita game which aren't as big

It's just a HD port not a remake so your looking at a 4gb download or maybe more due to the upgraded graphics.

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#6 Hanzoadam
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Probably not and even if it did you wouldnt fit much else on there. I have a 16GB vita games retail so just the instals and updates are installed on the memory card, I have 2 PSP games and 3 small video files and that takes up nearly 4 GB

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#7 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="Newhopes"]

Probably no, if I remember rightly FFX was about 4gb on the PS2 .

Newhopes

I haven't heard anything about ps2 classics yet. So it will probably be a vita game which aren't as big

It's just a HD port not a remake so your looking at a 4gb download or maybe more due to the upgraded graphics.

Were they hd remade on ps3 and just getting ported from there? Like metal gear seems to be. Even if they are they could be smaller like ninja gaiden pretty small for a port.
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#8 lge777
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If you plan on dowloading the game then NO, for game saves YES. Due to the cost of a memory stick downloading games with cost you more for the game even if you get it 10$ cheaper from the PSN, and there is no trade in value on a download.So in other words buy the hard copy and use the memory stick for game saves.

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#9 DGonlag
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Don't forget that 4GB is actually 3.?GB.

It's always slightly less than what it says (4GB means 4 million bytes, which is actually less than 4GB). And if the game was 4GB on the PS2, then with HD graphics (even if just updated and with higher resolution) it will take up even more. Whatever the size is, 4GB is not even the 4GB you need for the game.

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#10 oldskooler79
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If you plan on dowloading the game then NO, for game saves YES. Due to the cost of a memory stick downloading games with cost you more for the game even if you get it 10$ cheaper from the PSN

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That's almost unbelievable.

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#11 GamejunkieUK
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Personally I think it's pointless getting a 4GB memory card. At the very least you should get an 8GB card.
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#12 lge777
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[QUOTE="lge777"]

If you plan on dowloading the game then NO, for game saves YES. Due to the cost of a memory stick downloading games with cost you more for the game even if you get it 10$ cheaper from the PSN

oldskooler79

That's almost unbelievable.

A 16gb cost 60$, A game takes up around 4gb each so you can get around 4 games on a card, so if you save 10$ a game that 40$ and you spend 60$ on the card, and have little room for saves.

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Don't forget that 4GB is actually 3.?GB.

It's always slightly less than what it says (4GB means 4 million bytes, which is actually less than 4GB). And if the game was 4GB on the PS2, then with HD graphics (even if just updated and with higher resolution) it will take up even more. Whatever the size is, 4GB is not even the 4GB you need for the game.

DGonlag

It doesn't work like that, different systems do things differently. There is also compression and other things to help make file sizes smaller. How big is the file size for MGS HD collection? that should give a good idea of how big the file size for FFX.

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If you plan on dowloading the game then NO, for game saves YES. Due to the cost of a memory stick downloading games with cost you more for the game even if you get it 10$ cheaper from the PSN, and there is no trade in value on a download.So in other words buy the hard copy and use the memory stick for game saves.

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This... FU Sony :(
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I hope that a PSvita 4GB memory card will fit. I plan to buy this game when and if it is released on PSvita. I have a 4GB card so maybe just enough for that one game and nothing else. I will just have to buy a larger memory card then.

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Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick.. But instead of using the SD card standard of the industry lets make our own and sell it at a inflated price.. Genious!
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Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick.. But instead of using the SD card standard of the industry lets make our own and sell it at a inflated price.. Genious!sSubZerOo
Isn't that what Apple's been doing for years? Proprietary cables and no expansion slot so they can jack up the prices por 32 and 64 GB models. VIta memory card prices will eventualy go down. But i rather be this way and not a standard SD slot with a million different types of SD memory cards on the market.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick.. But instead of using the SD card standard of the industry lets make our own and sell it at a inflated price.. Genious!Solid_Snake_7
Isn't that what Apple's been doing for years? Proprietary cables and no expansion slot so they can jack up the prices por 32 and 64 GB models. VIta memory card prices will eventualy go down. But i rather be this way and not a standard SD slot with a million different types of SD memory cards on the market.

Yes because having competitive pricing and actual choices SUCKS.. (sarcasm).. How can any one defend this crap, and no the prices will not go down anytime soonbecause Sony effectively controls the market for their system.

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#20 p4s2p0
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Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick!sSubZerOo
But it's not like ms or nintendo are any different. 3ds released at that price and was cheaper to build. And I like have a core model with no memory card so I get get what size I want.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick!p4s2p0
But it's not like ms or nintendo are any different. 3ds released at that price. And I like have a core model with no memory card so I get get what size I want.

.. YEs but you can play the 3ds at its unwrapping.. You don't have to spend an extra $20 to $50 more just to be able to play a game.. Furthermore the price range for the 3ds was a hugely unpopular to the point that it dropped in price significantly and for the people who paid the $250 they were given a dozen free games..

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#22 Blackjaw
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Maybe. I have Motorstorm RC, Hot Shots Golf, Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky PSP and applicable saves on one memory 4gb memory card. Probably upgrade eventually, but if its around 3.7ish it should fit.

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#23 lge777
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick.. But instead of using the SD card standard of the industry lets make our own and sell it at a inflated price.. Genious!Solid_Snake_7
Isn't that what Apple's been doing for years? Proprietary cables and no expansion slot so they can jack up the prices por 32 and 64 GB models. VIta memory card prices will eventualy go down. But i rather be this way and not a standard SD slot with a million different types of SD memory cards on the market.

Your joking right ???? You can not possible believe that proprietary is a good thing. That is the main reason i don't buy Apple.Sony is just lucky they have the best handheld gaming device and it's just great enough to be worth the 300$ price tag (250$= system, 40$= startup kit + tax) just hope they support it with great games like they claim.

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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake_7"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Have ot love Sony's greed.. Lets not only release the $250 system package with NO memory stick.. But instead of using the SD card standard of the industry lets make our own and sell it at a inflated price.. Genious!lge777

Isn't that what Apple's been doing for years? Proprietary cables and no expansion slot so they can jack up the prices por 32 and 64 GB models. VIta memory card prices will eventualy go down. But i rather be this way and not a standard SD slot with a million different types of SD memory cards on the market.

Your joking right ???? You can not possible believe that proprietary is a good thing. That is the main reason i don't buy Apple.Sony is just lucky they have the best handheld gaming device and it's just great enough to be worth the 300$ price tag (250$= system, 40$= startup kit + tax) just hope they support it with great games like they claim.

No, i don't believe proprietary memory cards is a good thing, but it is better than having an SD card slot in this case. The Vita relies too much on reading data from memory cards, for demos and full games mainly, and i can't imagine the kinds of troubles it would run into with a cheap 4 gb SD card with slow read/write speeds. If it were up to me i'd ship the Vita with 8GB internal memory and the choice to buy a proprietary memory card, any size. That way no one would be forced to buy one.
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^ Vita's cards are no better than cheap SD cards. If you think otherwise you need to educate yourself http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-how-fast-are-vita-memory-cards Sony's 16GB gets an average 7 MB/s read. My 16GB Sandisk can transfer to the PC at 50MB/s and I got it for $25. And no, 4GB is not enough for anything except game saves. You need to buy Sony's $50 cards
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[QUOTE="oldskooler79"]

[QUOTE="lge777"]

If you plan on dowloading the game then NO, for game saves YES. Due to the cost of a memory stick downloading games with cost you more for the game even if you get it 10$ cheaper from the PSN

lge777

That's almost unbelievable.

A 16gb cost 60$, A game takes up around 4gb each so you can get around 4 games on a card, so if you save 10$ a game that 40$ and you spend 60$ on the card, and have little room for saves.


Very few games take up 4gb though. I don't think any game does it so far.

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#27 DGonlag
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[QUOTE="DGonlag"]

Don't forget that 4GB is actually 3.?GB.

It's always slightly less than what it says (4GB means 4 million bytes, which is actually less than 4GB). And if the game was 4GB on the PS2, then with HD graphics (even if just updated and with higher resolution) it will take up even more. Whatever the size is, 4GB is not even the 4GB you need for the game.

shinigami-uk

It doesn't work like that, different systems do things differently. There is also compression and other things to help make file sizes smaller. How big is the file size for MGS HD collection? that should give a good idea of how big the file size for FFX.

Yes that is how it works. 4GB means 4 Gigabytes of storage. But 4GB as in a file is more than the 4GB on a memory card.

This is because 1KB is not 1000bytes, but 1024bytes. 1MB is not 1000kb, but 1024kb. 1GB is not 1000mb, but 1024mb.

File sizes are given in what they are (exactly what it says), but memory is different. So when they say 4GB you get 4GigaBytes, which is actually less than the 4GBfile.

What i said counts for every device and memory card. It's always the same. It really doesn't change depending on the device or brand.

For example: 4GB memory stick is 4.000.000 Bytes.

4GB file is 4x 1024x1024= 4.194.304 Bytes.

As you can see a 4GB file will not ever fit on a 4GB card.

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[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]^ Vita's cards are no better than cheap SD cards. If you think otherwise you need to educate yourself http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-how-fast-are-vita-memory-cards Sony's 16GB gets an average 7 MB/s read. My 16GB Sandisk can transfer to the PC at 50MB/s and I got it for $25. And no, 4GB is not enough for anything except game saves. You need to buy Sony's $50 cards

You're comparing data transfers on a Vita to data transfers on a PC? Maybe is you that needs to get educated...
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[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]^ Vita's cards are no better than cheap SD cards. If you think otherwise you need to educate yourself http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-how-fast-are-vita-memory-cards Sony's 16GB gets an average 7 MB/s read. My 16GB Sandisk can transfer to the PC at 50MB/s and I got it for $25. And no, 4GB is not enough for anything except game saves. You need to buy Sony's $50 cards Solid_Snake_7
You're comparing data transfers on a Vita to data transfers on a PC? Maybe is you that needs to get educated...

:roll: What? Transfer rates is a universal thing, inless the PS vita's port is extremely out dated tech wise there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't see a comparable transfer rate.