will ps3 games ever look like dreamworks animation movies?

i saw kung fu panda yesterday....i know i know its a kids movie but i saw it anyway. the movie started off and it looked great, the first thing i thought when i saw it was wow imagine if games looked like this. although you can still tell its an animated movie it looks very real, the detail on little things. now i know there is a huge difference between an animated movie and a game but does the ps3 have to power to run a game that looks like this?

ratchet and clank looked like it could have been an animated movie but looking back now the textures used were quite blurry and lacked details at times. now ratchet and clank is old enough, the ps3 is just starting to reach full speed and devs are getting used to it.

if kojima productions were in charge of the next ratchet and clank game do you think it would look like an animated movie? does the ps3 have the power?

It takes a long time to render a single frame of any one of the current CG movies. No current gen console has the horse power to create a real-time interactive experience visually close to any current gen CG film. Heck, the equipment used to create current CG films don't have enough horse power to create a real-time interactive experience. Once we start seeing more prcoedural algorithm use we'll have a better idea of what textures will be possible out of a PS3 game.emitsu97

what he said

It takes a long time to render a single frame of any one of the current CG movies. No current gen console has the horse power to create a real-time interactive experience visually close to any current gen CG film. Heck, the equipment used to create current CG films don't have enough horse power to create a real-time interactive experience. Once we start seeing more prcoedural algorithm use we'll have a better idea of what textures will be possible out of a PS3 game.emitsu97

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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]It takes a long time to render a single frame of any one of the current CG movies. No current gen console has the horse power to create a real-time interactive experience visually close to any current gen CG film. Heck, the equipment used to create current CG films don't have enough horse power to create a real-time interactive experience. Once we start seeing more prcoedural algorithm use we'll have a better idea of what textures will be possible out of a PS3 game.theiceman08

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Here is something think about. Why does a pixar-type of movie translate into a PS2 type of game?

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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]It takes a long time to render a single frame of any one of the current CG movies. No current gen console has the horse power to create a real-time interactive experience visually close to any current gen CG film. Heck, the equipment used to create current CG films don't have enough horse power to create a real-time interactive experience. Once we start seeing more prcoedural algorithm use we'll have a better idea of what textures will be possible out of a PS3 game.NOZO006

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jaja yeah

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Ratcher and clark looks like a pixar movie :|:|:|

really i dont think they ever will cause its just to much but they will get the closest to it

Ratcher and clark looks like a pixar movie :|:|:| big_boss4life

I thought R&C was fantastic visually.

R&C, at least the demo, to me had the Pixar look going on, but if you analyze the details, it's not quite going to stand up. But, as was pointed out, at the same time Pixar movies would not look half as good if they had to render in real-time and weren't pre-rendered. This is why pre-rendered cg-cutscenes in games always look smoother and more polished than cut-scenes using the in-game rendering engine.ianuilliam

MGS4 I think used the ingame-graphics for cutscenes. It sure looked like it to me, and it looked amazing. Perhaps a bit more polished...

MGS4 I think used the ingame-graphics for cutscenes. It sure looked like it to me, and it looked amazing. Perhaps a bit more polished...LtColJaxson

Kojima has always only used in-game graphics for cutscenes.

Yeah, I read that some frames in a given pixar movie can take up to 3 days to render. That's insane for a single frame. If you 're rendering at standard PAL, 24 fps, that's an eternity.

So no.. we're not even close to making that quality interactive.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]R&C, at least the demo, to me had the Pixar look going on, but if you analyze the details, it's not quite going to stand up. But, as was pointed out, at the same time Pixar movies would not look half as good if they had to render in real-time and weren't pre-rendered. This is why pre-rendered cg-cutscenes in games always look smoother and more polished than cut-scenes using the in-game rendering engine.LtColJaxson

MGS4 I think used the ingame-graphics for cutscenes. It sure looked like it to me, and it looked amazing. Perhaps a bit more polished...

Yes, MGS4 rendered all the cutscenes in real-time. That's why the octocamo/masks, etc, actually show whatever you had on at the start of the cut-scene. If it was pre-rendered, it would alsways look the same, each time you play. And while MGS4 cutscenes were amazing, they were not as mind-blowing super-realistic as pre-rendered cg movies can be.

With a pre-rendered cg movie, they can push the limits of the computer to the point where it takes seconds or minutes to render one frame, then just play it back at a perfectly smooth 24/30/60 whatever fps. With real-time rendered cut-scene, they must limit the textures, lighting, etc, enough that it will run at a smooth frame-rate without any skipping. Does that mean that all pre-rendered looks better than all real-time? No, not at all. And besides, real-time can allow for variations from one play to the next, which makes it so much cooler.

what big words? just read it, it makes sense.Merdox87

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]It takes a long time to render a single frame of any one of the current CG movies. No current gen console has the horse power to create a real-time interactive experience visually close to any current gen CG film. Heck, the equipment used to create current CG films don't have enough horse power to create a real-time interactive experience. Once we start seeing more prcoedural algorithm use we'll have a better idea of what textures will be possible out of a PS3 game.theiceman08

look at all those big words. he has to be right

Don't sweat it... I'm 27 and still watch kids' movies. When you're out getting your tail kicked by the Real World, it's a kind of therapy.

Anyway, I think we're already starting to see games of this quality come out... Ratchet And Clank was pretty close, for instance. Maybe towards the end of this gen or the beginning of next, it'll be difficult to tell the difference. Look at some of these games coming out... we're almost at games that look REAL, let alone like Kung Fu Panda, lol.