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#1 moej88
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Looking forward for E3 this year, I'm hoping Sony will reveal a new XMB interface to keep things fresh. Integrating the move more is a must. I personally do not use PS home, but integrating it to the XMB would be a good idea.

They need to patch it up anyway, pressing the PS button on a controller when inside a game some times ends up sluggish.


I ended up finding some concepts online.

Its a start, and since Ps4 is not showing up at E3, Sony should still keep things fresh.

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#2 Vari3ty
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Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

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#3 Go_Gamer
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Yea I agree with you PS3 does need a sort of fresh new XMB this one seems sort of outdated I guess, although I doubt they will release a new one during E3. I keep my hopes up :)

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#4 jayd02
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Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

Vari3ty

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

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#5 Aero5555
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Why should they change the design? It's perfect as is and it defines all Playstation consoles since the hybrid Japan-only PS2. It's like asking Mcdonald's to re-design Ronald.

The slowdown in-game is due to limitations in the hardware as mentioned.

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If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.jayd02

So, what you're asking for is that they make a NEW PS3. It's the only way they could add some RAM.

Redesign the system to work with less RAM it's virtually impossible... if anything, if there's an update it will use MORE RAM, because the "modern" idea is that a cool inteface is something with a lot of "bang!" and that kind of thing will mean more memory usage to load up more garbage.

I don't know how they could implement the XMB`s loading of only a few things at a time... when you boot up your PC, your OS pretty much loads EVERYTHING at start up... if not, the loading process would never end (i.e. it'll take forever).

What they actually COULD DO is make the In-Game Menu (the one that opens when you press and hold the PS button) more useful. For example, adding the ability to send messages from there, with a direct option, and not force you to go looking for the Message Box. And then making THAT menu THE ONLY THING that's loaded when you simply press the PS button. That menu is basically nothing for the RAM, so that thing could actually load and behave like an instant menu. THAT would make my year. :)

The only other thing I would like is the option to be able to REMOVE CATEGORIES. Like, for instance, if I don't use the "Music" Category, I should be able to take it from my XMB, to make it more...tight...and not having to endure a useless category up there for nothing.

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#7 moej88
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

jayd02

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

exactly, If the RAM is a problem, then when the PS button is pressed in game it should only load what u can actually use. Messages & settings. Music, Ps store, & videos all load up when the ps button is pressed.

As for the design of the XMB itself, it can only be in terms of design when u are not running the game.

I honestly hate the way u open msgs...for example: open a msg sent by a friend, reply and then press Circle---ur back to the XMB not the inbox, so u gotta click msgs again and go to recived.

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What about some kind of page filing to reduce the stress on the ram? Is something like that even possible for the PS3?
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#9 moej88
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What about some kind of page filing to reduce the stress on the ram? Is something like that even possible for the PS3?ydnarrewop

I'm sure sony has alot of coders and they can lower the stress on the RAM....they just need to make it a project. To be honest, I don't just want to see games show up at E3 or more Vita news. There should be alot more.

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#10 MarcRecon
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I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

Vari3ty

Agreed and I'd rather them focus on utilizing whatever muscle the PS3 has left to pump out a few more good tittles.:)

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#11 lensflare15
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I don't really want them to change the XMB. I like it, and no need to fix what isn't broken. I much prefer the XMB to what the Vita has, so I hope Sony doesn't change the PS3 menu to that.

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#12 moej88
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I don't really want them to change the XMB. I like it, and no need to fix what isn't broken. I much prefer the XMB to what the Vita has, so I hope Sony doesn't change the PS3 menu to that.

lensflare15

That I agree with. I perosnally did'nt like the Vita Interface and now that u mention it.....it would be quite scary to see that become the new standard :S

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#13 Go_Gamer
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[QUOTE="jayd02"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

moej88

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

exactly, If the RAM is a problem, then when the PS button is pressed in game it should only load what u can actually use. Messages & settings. Music, Ps store, & videos all load up when the ps button is pressed.

As for the design of the XMB itself, it can only be in terms of design when u are not running the game.

I honestly hate the way u open msgs...for example: open a msg sent by a friend, reply and then press Circle---ur back to the XMB not the inbox, so u gotta click msgs again and go to recived.

Yesss^^^ I totally agree with that you should be able to choose what you want for the in game menu to show because for me all i use are the accessory settings and the messages and for almost everything else your gonna have to exit out of the game anyways so why have them in there although I don't know how much that will speed it up but i'm sure it will still have some impact on it. Also yea i really hate the messaging system on ps3 it just takes so much effort to send a message.

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#14 Go_Gamer
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[QUOTE="jayd02"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

moej88

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

exactly, If the RAM is a problem, then when the PS button is pressed in game it should only load what u can actually use. Messages & settings. Music, Ps store, & videos all load up when the ps button is pressed.

As for the design of the XMB itself, it can only be in terms of design when u are not running the game.

I honestly hate the way u open msgs...for example: open a msg sent by a friend, reply and then press Circle---ur back to the XMB not the inbox, so u gotta click msgs again and go to recived.

Yesss^^^ I totally agree with that you should be able to choose what you want for the in game menu to show because for me all i use are the accessory settings and the messages and for almost everything else your gonna have to exit out of the game anyways so why have them in there although I don't know how much that will speed it up but i'm sure it will still have some impact on it. Also yea i really hate the messaging system on ps3 it just takes so much effort to send a message. sorry for the double post idk how that happened...

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it would be nice. not a big deal though.

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#16 jayd02
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[QUOTE="jayd02"]If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.Orpheus_Evo

So, what you're asking for is that they make a NEW PS3. It's the only way they could add some RAM.

Redesign the system to work with less RAM it's virtually impossible... if anything, if there's an update it will use MORE RAM, because the "modern" idea is that a cool inteface is something with a lot of "bang!" and that kind of thing will mean more memory usage to load up more garbage.

I don't know how they could implement the XMB`s loading of only a few things at a time... when you boot up your PC, your OS pretty much loads EVERYTHING at start up... if not, the loading process would never end (i.e. it'll take forever).

What they actually COULD DO is make the In-Game Menu (the one that opens when you press and hold the PS button) more useful. For example, adding the ability to send messages from there, with a direct option, and not force you to go looking for the Message Box. And then making THAT menu THE ONLY THING that's loaded when you simply press the PS button. That menu is basically nothing for the RAM, so that thing could actually load and behave like an instant menu. THAT would make my year. :)

The only other thing I would like is the option to be able to REMOVE CATEGORIES. Like, for instance, if I don't use the "Music" Category, I should be able to take it from my XMB, to make it more...tight...and not having to endure a useless category up there for nothing.

I am pretty sure they could redesign the system to use less RAM for a program that THEY MADE ON THEIR ON CONSOLE. I never said that they needed to make a new PS3 either. What you said would practically fix many problems that comes with hitting the ps button on the controller. If you read what many people are posting on this forum and hundreds of others are that they don't want anything flashy they want something that is fast. I like xmb because it is simple and it isn't a hassle to run through things just to play games. Look what many 360 users are complaining about with thier dashboard now.

Sony is a big company and I am pretty sure that if they can program a TV to have a UI and that be fast, then I am pretty sure that they can redesign XMB and make it a little faster to get through.

Also the thing about the computers loading up. The computers only load up what it needs to load up at start not everything. When I turn on my laptop my music player, word documents, web browser, and my last game of solitare don't just pop up when I hit the power button and it gets down loading. I can also change what loads up at start.

To me is isn't that big of a problem. On a list of priorites that I would set up for Sony it would be second to last if not last. The first being making more exclusive games. We have tons but I am greedy and just want more.

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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

jayd02

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

They've already optimized it greatly when it comes to RAM usage over the years. The difference is instead of using the extra ram that they save to make the menu faster, they give it to developers to use for their games.
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#18 moej88
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[QUOTE="jayd02"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Its the lack of ram, not the XMB itself, that makes it laggy when you bring it up in the middle of a game. And personally I think the XMB is fine, don't change what isn't broken.

dk00111

If a lack of ram is the problem then they need to work around that and make it faster. I don't know much about this kind of stuff but from what I can see the system tries to load everything at one time which slows it down. If they could make the XMB just load a few things at one time then maybe it could be faster. They could also redesign the system to work with less ram. It is their system and they do know it best so they should know how to speed it up. I hope they don't change it because I also like it but I would like it to move faster.

They've already optimized it greatly when it comes to RAM usage over the years. The difference is instead of using the extra ram that they save to make the menu faster, they give it to developers to use for their games.

yes that is true. Games are moving forward and becoming a challenge for the console to handle. In reality we are not getting extra RAM out of no where. Sony just needs to work with what they have and eliminate the usless stuff in the XMB when the PS button is pushed in game.

I would also like to see a msg counter instead of just an envelope that shows in the top right. When I get invites into game they just pile up in the inbox and deleting msgs from inside any game is slow due to the RAM issue. Having a msg counter will let me know if I have recieved any actual extra msgs. Or just separate invite msgs from normal msgs.