11 Senate Republicans say they will oppose Electoral College results Wednesday

11 Senate Republicans say they will oppose Electoral College results Wednesday | TheHill

Oof, Let the clown show commence.

What it all comes down to is offering proof rather than just innuendo. For almost two months we have heard but have not seen what is being said.

They know it's all fake and can't change anything for 2020.

I think this is about sowing enough misinformation to the point where they can use mass voter suppression for 2024. They will attempt to create very strict/point-less policies in their counties/states for 2024 even though 2020 election was secure. Mostly to reduce Democrat chances, the main reason for these policies. We've seen this before, but not with such a huge dramatic show.

Don't they need to win both house and senate for that though?

Not at all. Most voting legislation occurs at the state level.

That won't stop them from trying, and it won't stop them in some States for laws/policies I believe. Which is how they currently do it. Especially with a conservative SCOTUS.

Texas Is Among The Most Difficult Places To Vote In The U.S. — And That Could Be Softening Its Historic Turnout – Houston Public Media

A new study from Northern Illinois University finds Texas has the most restrictive voting laws in the country

Such laws have proliferated across the southern U.S. since 2013, when the Supreme Court struck down a key section of the 1965 Voting Rights Act – the formula which bars certain jurisdictions from making changes affecting voting without prior approval by the U.S. attorney general or the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

In fact, Schraufnagel found eight of the most difficult states in which to vote lie within the former Confederacy.

Voting rights activists call Gov. Greg Abbott's recent order limiting each county to a single drop-off location for mail-in ballots a blatant example of voter suppression, something League of United Latin American Citizens regional director Al Maldonado stressed at a recent demonstration in Midtown Houston.

"This is pre-1965 all over again," Maldonado said, "and we cannot afford to continue with this along this road, so we're going to do all we can to ensure that every voter here does not have his vote suppressed, and we're going to get out there and we're working very hard to ensure that that occurs."

Hmm. A lot of states that outright didn't want blacks to vote the hardest now trying to make it harder and harder for them to vote. What a coincidence.

Ofcourse Republicans/Cons will lie and say it's for voting security, but going by data that's fake news. We know it's a mix of either just being racist and/or reducing Dems chances.

They always try to find more ways, in full power or not. This clown show will only amp them up. I guarantee many attempts from now to 2024. Maybe the most in history.

Subverting democracy.... wait....

Isn't this the part where those second amendment guys come in and save the day?

How about those law and order guys?

Or is it all just a scam?

This is a good question for the conservatives on this board. Any takers?

Nearly every conservative on this board has remained silent on the sedition by the GOP. They're all complicit with it.

I don't see how anyone can defend this.

I forgot. Voting is a state matter.

Oh that's easy. Because half of you view voting is a privilege, not a right.

Damn. Why is voting such a difficult matter in US?

The right will it's the biggest hypocrisy that the Trump cult is using the slogan stop the steal when they are literally trying to steal it every chance they can thankfully this shit show will finally end soon.

@horgen: "Why is voting such a difficult matter in US?"

Because one of our parties detests democracy while wrapping themselves in the flag. As long as they can continue funneling more money to themselves and their donors, no ideal is too sacred a sacrifice.

Rhetorical question and precisely the point.

It's never about preventing tyranny. It's maintaining the status quo and overthrowing elected governments that trigger white supremacists. See Tulsa, Rosewood, and Wilmington. Also same with police collaborators who ignored crimes from white extremists.

It's never about law and order for all. It's law and order for the undesirable races and none for those who can afford it. It's a gimmick phase to scare idiots thinking that being tough all the time is being effective, while militarizing the police and pretending that they're sheepdogs or some dumb gimmick like that.

The conservatives in this forum are cowards and nothing more. Remember that when they spout that nonsense because I know I will.

Republicans. It reduces their chances as general voter turnout increases and/or they don't like when non whites vote a lot.

Hell they are trying to get million of legal American votes essentially thrown out these last 2 months. Many from Black counties or mostly Black voters.

Bunch of giant wimps afraid of Trump. More losers that have self identified as being unworthy of any leadership position whatsoever.

More likely to prove a massive frog than fraud.

Traitorous swine.

Their behavior really has been shameful. I know the left has been protesting (or rioting, if you like) a lot but at least they're fighting for what they believe in, and a just cause.

Republicans, if you can even call them that, are just kowtowing to the Cult of Trump for some god forsaken reason.

Part of me thinks that if the Republicans lose everything this time, they're never going to come back to full strength. Then again, maybe they tell so many lies they actually believe the crap they say.

110% correct!

@zaryia: GOP is killing itself with moderates right now. They are becoming the party of Trump voters for ONLY Trump voters. Good luck winning a presidential election and 2022 Senate races with no moderate support.

Death throws of Republicanism.

Seems like a silly hill to die on, but this will have no bearing on anything. Courts continue to not give credence to issues without merit, and this will again only serve as political posturing to rally their base. If they wish too, going forward, improve the security and confidence in voting then by all means sally forth; find ways to improve both.

@girlusocrazy: It’s just accelerating what

most western democracies have, a 3+ party system. Labor (left), pro-business small-government moderates, and the populist fringe far right have nothing in common and trying to combine the last two is what is causing this problem.

They will split, and it will be decades before we see another “Republican“ president until left-moderates start migrating to the centrist party.

Conservatives can thank Trump and before that the Tea Party for their own ruin.

The GOP basically enabled Donald Trump to let Covid ravage the country and not do anything to stop the spread, do nothing to help struggling Americans, there's blood on their hands and it is all theirs, they didn't just let their criminal President stay in power, they let him undermine our public health institutions and spread misinformation that has been deadly to like 350K+ Americans and is basically greater than one 9/11 death toll per day at this point. They don't just want to stay in power, they want to run the show that is killing thousands of Americans a day. They went this far, so what's a coup to them?

Isn't there already precedent on how to treat these who still doesn't accept the result?

@girlusocrazy: How can they claim to be misled? How can Ted Cruz claim to be misled?

Not if those experts used the same language as the lawyers have done under oath.

Just another day in the most corrupt administration in US history.

@horgen: How dare you! Lying Ted Cruz/Beautiful Ted Cruz is just living up to his names. All that matters is that you lie about the right things.

Living up to his names? Hasn't he used more energy to help Trump overturn this election than he used to defend his family after being insulted by Trump?

This is more insane day after day.

'Read the transcript!'

'We've read the transcript, that's why we're concerned'

'Liars, deep state!

The GOP cult keep swirling around the same turd in the toilet bowl.

Just listening to that. Has to be criminal.

@LJS9502_basic: It doesn't matter. The party has already stated they won't hold him accountable while he's in office, and he'll issue a self pardon on his way out.

Any excuse won't hold in court. At which point does this have consequences for them?

@horgen: The consequences are either the attempt succeeds and they retain power, or it fails and their base continues to support them. There are probably no other significant consequences.

Heck, we have a police officer in this thread shrugging it off with a, "boys will be boys," response. He'll likely continue supporting the party regardless, as will the vast majority of it's supporters.

But he's so quick to call out other criminals.

@LJS9502_basic: Jesus, he really is an idiot. That audio was crazy.

I think I would have hung up on him haha. I mean he lost, what do they have to lose?

There always this suspicion in the back of my mind that Trump was some sort of genius-playing-the-fool to deceive people into underestimating him....but no, he is just a big dumb bully. Plain and simple.

Yep. And he did eventually end the call, not trump. Wonder who released this?

@mattbbpl: Disgusting, I hate this man.

You hate him? After serving in the army and taking an oath I so despise others that took oaths and don't live up to them, which includes reps and senators. The country must come first.

@LJS9502_basic: Hate Trump? Yes.

i don't know how raffensperger had the patience to sit though it all. a few times he did say "you're wrong" or "your data is incorrect" but still stuck it though.

at what point do you just say "mr. president, i don't have time for this nonsense" and just hang up on him??

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