@ghost_of_phobos said:
@Gatygun: Afghanistan was obviously never under control, the regaining of control by the Taliban outside cities begun more than 10 ago and since 2017 they only became stronger. Trump as easy to manipulate as he was even went as far as negotiating with them.
It's not a right Vs left, or Reps Vs Dems. It's just a fucked up situation that crossed various administrations, started 20 years ago and no one had the balls to do it.
Ending the occupation of a foreign country is the right thing to do. There are better ways to help a nation than a military occupation, sell it for exploration, killing civilians, committing war crimes and electing a puppet government.
If the US/west could stop financing groups like the Taliban or the Islamic State, that would be the greatest help really.
Trump knew who the rulers are, everybody on the planet knows. its what the people support. Taliban has all the support in the world or else they could never push so fast as they just did. He knew it and that's why he went towards them as a after solution when they leave or make a deal with them in order to stop blood shed or any other pointless solution or else he would have pulled out the same freaking month and threw the keys at the taliban and removed the president over night.
U can't just pull out, because if you pull out without a plan or else the enemy has all the cards and u got nothing. That's exactly what biden did. Who's going to protect that woman and her kids that created a school to teach females? nobody. She will be culled, linched, executed and her kids will be raped and killed soon after it why? because they don't have to worry about biden or his army or the west on that front remotely. he can do whatever the **** he wants.
That's why u make sure u have a deal or some form that u can push out some form of pressure or some form of solution like massive loans to the country to rebuild infrastucture or whatever else with the taliban at the leadership in order to keep those people u worked with for 20 years long for not being linced and mass murdered the next day. People aren't falling off airplanes for nothing, they know what's about to come.
Biden did nothing, he got overrunned, couldn't even runned away. Had no communication with the taliban like at all and basically got surprised the moment afghanistan was lost. He has no power projection anymore there is nothing he can or could do if taliban decides to go full blown isis again.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Gatygun said:
Lol and people voted for that clown. There blind hatred for trump results in Afghanistan falling months in under Biden administration so badly they can't even flee fast enough to safe there own skins.
Also i though biden and the left cared so much for woman, to protect them and give them equal rights and about black rights etc.
Guess what's going to happen in afghanistan to these people now? yea rip them.
What a morbid joke.
Guess who was president when the withdrawal was deciding on? And people voted for that clown more than once.
Withdrawal was planned already for what? 15+ years? by multiple presidents? hell even obama selling point was withdrawal. why did he never do it? he could sign the next day and say fak it lets go. Trump tried to find a exit out which the road of that exit was to work with a group that is supported by masses of people in afghanistan and try to keep them in line, but he never pulled out at the end why? he probably knew it was going to be a shatshow or maybe he had additional idea's we will never know about.
What we do know, he was president for 4 years and the taliban wasn't walking through the streets of kabul. Now under trump it could have fallen faster in this year, sure, it could also not. so arguing about something that never happened or never will happen is kinda pointless. The reality is, this is under bidens watch and not a month into his presidency but well into it.
Biden failed Afghanistan on such a hard level, without any deal to keep taliban from killing everybody that has any connection with america or the west, or enslave woman, kill blacks, linch gays or of any other religion that people are so desperate they are killing themselves by falling of airplanes rather then face the taliban at home.
Biden is at fault here and frankly that youtube / twitter / facebook didn't straight up delete him from the internet already says enough how facist his entire community really is and how the actual left operates. They probably dance on those people's graves with pleasure because they aren't pure enough "aka american enough". waving there garbage flag.
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