Biden to start "Ministry of Truth" bureau. Wants to crackdown on the internet.

The point is that none of that matters. Just like the emails, they murmer and mutter things you can't quite make out into concrete accusations and insist there's something really damning there without explicitly laying out a case. That allows them to claim it's as terrible as they want it to be without having to support the accusation.

That's why they keep repeating, "the laptop was real," without saying what crimes Joe Biden has committed and what evidence from the laptop supports those claims.

If Hunter Biden is making multi million dollar deals with countries like Ukraine and China and paying his dad under the table while using his dads political status to accomplish such deals.

That's a problem and a conflict of interest. Biden has publicly said he "knows nothing about any of his sons foreign investment deals".

If you believe Biden on that statement... good for you, but there is information brought up from that laptop that suggests differently.

Is that the claim?

yes

Wonderful!

Support it.

@mattbbpl: yeah that's why that laptop keeps getting brought up in regards to Twitter. When the NY post first broke the story Twitter was banning anyone who talked about it or posted the NY post story... They banned the story linked by the NY post directly.. and when we consider that when this story broke, it was in the middle of a 2020 election... It seems quite dystopian. Especially when 6 months later outlets like the NYT and WaPo even admitted the story was true and the laptop did exist...

When you consider all the hooplah over "election interference" in 2016... Its all so hypocritical.

There's no credible support for the claim in this post. Just whining about social media censorship.

@mattbbpl: smh.. there are messages from hunter to his family saying directly he has to give 50% of everything he makes to his dad... This was on the laptop.. was this crystal clean bank statements.. no... But for you to just completely ignore it as nothing... I I just can't take you seriously.

You obviously will give this no look at all for partisan reasons. I couldn't imagine shilling this hard for the Bidens. If I could guess, you only do it out of hate for who his opponent was. Really can't take you seriously.

and there it is, "we don't look at Biden critically at all because Trump"

you guys don't hide it very well

@sargentd: I think we'll all continue not taking you seriously as well until you actually provide the information you're alluding to. We're fine with that arrangement.

Oh, I take (in particular) political conflicts of interest quite seriously, I just don't believe a single Trump supporter does - at all. He was DIRECTLY using the office to enrich himself, and none of them gave a shit. Now they're just hand waving some accusations Biden's way with little support and expecting everyone to take them seriously.

Similar to the security instances noted above by Girl, they only care about them when they think they can use them as a cudgel against the opposition.

@mattbbpl:https://thenationaldesk.com/news/americas-news-now/president-biden-interweaved-his-finances-with-his-son-hunter-messages-show-joe-laptop-text-email

Initially, intelligence experts and others called the initial reports of Hunter Biden's laptop and contained emails, published first by the New York Post, to likely be "Russian disinformation."

The story has recently picked up steam again after the laptop and emails were verified by both the Washington Post and New York Times.

Still, the White House reportedly continues to claim President Joe Biden has never spoken or been involved with his son's overseas business dealings, but many critics say the emails reveal otherwise.

peaking with The National Desk, political insider Armstrong Williams says he believes the emails will make it so Joe Biden will not be able to deny the influence his former position as vice president had on his son's dealings.

The laptop is replete with criminal evidence that was nevertheless successfully discredited by Joe Biden, intelligence community and the mainstream media as Russian disinformation for such a long time," Williams told TND. "Hunter Biden, and the president's brother James Biden, monetized the vice president's row by receiving millions of dollars, millions of dollars in payment, from a Ukrainian official, I mean, plural And not just, I mean, from Russia oligarchs, more than just one ... Unquantified millions flowed to Hunter Biden and the president's brother James Biden. All Hunter and James had to offer for these millions was Joe Biden, the vice president of the United States.

The reported revelations from DailyMail.com, along with the"Big Guy" emails, include President Biden allegedly meeting with his son's foreign business associatesat a D.C. restaurantdespite White House denials, President Biden meeting with an executive ofUkrainian gas firm Burismawhere Hunter was earning $1 million a year for a board seat, President Bidensharing a bank accountwith his son Hunter, and President Bidenwriting a college recommendationletter for the son of Hunter's Chinese business partner.

Washington Post reporting. It's hilarious that you think it's Twitter or Reddit. Are they your news sources?

@sargentd: https://www.vox.com/22992772/hunter-biden-laptop

All is not as you state.

Stealth Hunter: Biden’s tangled business dealings are becoming hard to ignore

Influence-peddling is Washington’s ‘spectator sport’ – but now there’s an interest in taking a closer look at the president’s son

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/27/hunter-biden-joe-biden-president-business-dealings

@sargentd: I couldn't find what "The National Desk" is, but it doesn't really matter because it references your other source internally, which is a tabloid. Please provide some actual support.

lol w/e dude

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/27/hunter-biden-joe-biden-president-business-dealings

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-biden-laptop-scandal-corruption-new-york-times-post-media-bias-2020-11648076107

Alright, these are better sources! Edit: Aside from the WSJ article, which is an op-ed.

Now what from these support your claim?

@mattbbpl: I knew you would only read leftists sources lol guardian and NYT I know your sweet side ;)

In the sane world we call my brand of resources "credible".

I noticed that you didn't answer my question about what from those sources support your claim.

in sane world you would acknowledge that the NYT failed to verify the laptop from the beginning.

Going as far to suggest it was "Russian disinformation".

You shit on the NY Post for being liars.

Embraced the NYT calling it "russian disinformation"

and then when the NYT admits actually that laptop is real 6 months late... You still back them 100% lol....

such sanity

Still waiting on your cited evidence.

In the meantime, here's the how your preferred sources fair on factual reporting:

Daily Mail: Low

The National Desk: Unlisted, but referenced a tabloid for it's own story, LOL

The New York Post: Mixed

Compared to the New York Times that you are disparaging as a rag: High

@mattbbpl: ah yes the website told you who's good and who's bad!

you are truly a critical thinker

Where is the link? Why are you copying and pasting information without citing the source and then question others on knowing the material? Lol

While you cite tabloids, LOL.

I'm still waiting on the support for your claim, by the way.

the claim can wait, I'm seriously intrigued why you need or only want left wing sources for this story?

Do you only accept left leaning sources when looking up story's related to democrats in power?

Its hard to have any type of genuine conversation with you. The only sources you will even entertain with this story are left leaning. NYT completely disregarded it as Russian disinformation for 6 months...

So the only sources you entertain in regards to Hunter and Joe's intertwined financials is left leaning.

Not only that... I have to hand hold you like a child to even read the left leaning ones??

Its like having a right winger force people to only talk about republicans using fox and breitbart as their sources...

You are in a bubble and you embrace that bubble.

I only accept CREDIBLE sources. If you can't find a credible source to support your claim, that's on you.

Which I'm still waiting for.

Edit: If you want to read WHY those sources are credible and to see a list of others that are credible, see here.

You literally linked NYPOST and DailyMail lol.

this kid.

@mattbbpl: your "credible source" called it Russian disinformation and was 6 months late on the truth

And, as credible sources are known to do, they filed a retraction after verification.

Still waiting on that support you said you had for your claim from any credible outlet.

@mattbbpl: ahh all is forgiven, a retraction 6 months later lol "credible" my ass man

Amazing. The source who had it right from the git go gets slandered of pushing "Russian disinformation". Has their story pulled off Facebook and Twitter.

While the outlet who disregarded it as fake and Russian disinformation is more than welcome to spread thier real disinformation as they see fit to help a politician running for president.

Interesting

Significantly more credible than yours, LOL.

Honesty and credibility comes from jumping to conclusions with the best available evidence we have at any moment.

@Maroxad: they had no issue calling it Russian disinformation with 0 evidence of it being so.

You need a new mantra. I didn't copy and paste anything. I rephrased what I read some time ago about what the "laptop repairman" stated. I gave you the source.

@sargentd: You didn't read the link. It answered your question.

"Hunter’s emails contained a whole lot of embarrassing and arguably newsworthy material about himself, and the shady foreign business interests of the son of the potential next president are certainly a worthy topic of media coverage. But as for the Biden who was actually on the ballot, there was very little from him personally in those messages (other than an exchange where he comforts his despondent, drug-addicted son). The emails didn’t dominate mainstream media because, at least so far, they didn’t have the goods."

More right-wing fantasy. It's amazing how gullible these people are.

Is this why Sargent hasn't provided any support for his claim?

@sargentd, the world needs to know!

So, no link to your "rephrasing" source? I mean, if you're going to regurgitate material, might as well get it right. lol

I read it awhile ago. I gave you the source.

“I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,” Hunter Biden texted daughter Naomi in January 2019. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry, unlike pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary.” -Hunter Biden

props to Jimmy Dore for being a leftist with a conscious

It's like you're incapable of ever posting a good source. So weird haha.

what are you talking about? there are multiple sources talked about in that video, NYT, Politico, and NYpost

Glenn Greenwald quit the intercept over this BS

Post those instead of a shitty youtuber.

What's illegal here? This makes the Trump family stuff look tame.

why?? Jimmy Dore nails it