Apparently the NYTs are Democrat strategists and have recommended Biden not debate Trump?
https://youtu.be/eERIBBCBZcY
This is a deliberately misleading title and thread and textbook shitposting. Not only is there no material here that suggests Biden is "scared to debate," but the actual article cited is taken out of context. The article merely suggests Biden should make demands for debating. Also where the hell did you get "NYTs are Democrat strategists?" They're a journalist's outlet. The article writer isn't even a political strategy specialist, he's a foreign affairs op-ed writer.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/opinion/biden-trump-debate.html
And linking Fucker Carlson should be reportable trolling on it's own.
@Vaasman: Nothing is misleading here - right under the Tucker video I pose NYT’s motive as a question - obviously not as fact. Same thing with my title.
You also link a NYT’s article which I can also accuse as trolling at this point.
You asked a disingenuous bullshit question and linked an admitted lying shock jock conspiracy peddler who deliberately took the material out of context. You're a troll, and you're trolling.
@Vaasman: Why can’t those on the Left have a mature conversation without profanity or name-calling? You know that’s how to lose a debate, right?
There's nothing to debate and nothing to discuss. You posted an admitted liar and leading question and took material out of context to draw an incorrect conclusion. You lost before there was anything to debate by drowning yourself in pathetic fallacies. Thus I'm merely stating the obvious, which is that this is a troll.
@Sevenizz: if you mean fear of giving the challenged an opening could cause you to lose ground, yes.
It isn't the gotcha you think it is. This is standard strategy every cycle. The campaign behind tries to goad the leader into additional debates every cycle as Trump did last week and Fox is doing so here. The campaign leading slaps it down by saying, "we will stick with the standard 3 debates," as Biden did last week.
This happens every cycle.
This is a deliberately misleading title and thread and textbook shitposting. Not only is there no material here that suggests Biden is "scared to debate," but the actual article cited is taken out of context. The article merely suggests Biden should make demands for debating. Also where the hell did you get "NYTs are Democrat strategists?" They're a journalist's outlet. The article writer isn't even a political strategy specialist, he's a foreign affairs op-ed writer.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/opinion/biden-trump-debate.html
And linking Fucker Carlson should be reportable trolling on it's own.
agreed. this was striaght up bait post.
@Vaasman: I’m guessing you didn’t even watch the video.
I did, try again. Tucker is a deliberate troll, admitted liar, and conspiracy peddler, and this is no different. He jumps to a multitude of ridiculous conclusions almost immediately about Biden, the author, and the material of the article which are all complete nonsense and have no evidence to back them, all after using only the headline of the article to make said stupid conclusions. He then posts a bunch of gaff videos that have nothing to do with the article's material.
It's a garbage video, just like this is a garbage thread.
@Vaasman: So the Biden gaffs are just made up, right? Biden is in top mental health to lead a country, right?
How desperate are you? You can't even defend the video or thread anymore? It's straight shitposting and you know it, how shameful.
But for the record, Biden is not my first choice and might have a few screws loose though if we're trying to compare his mental health to Trumps the answer for who is doing the best is no question. Trump is demonstrably incompetent, dimwitted, cruel, a pathological liar and narcissist, and deteriorating just as rapidly.
Is there any point having a conversation with Trump?
Trump will simply lie, peddle conspiracy theories, and invent statistics to make himself sound great. You can't debate with someone that far in denial.
The fact these are your two options is as hilarious as it is scary. Two clearly mentally unfit individuals to run a nation for another 4 years. Wow
@Planeforger: @Vaasman: CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP must be so proud of themselves.
But false name-calling aside, Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. Deep down you know this too.
You mean how he lost pretty much every debate against Hillary Clinton?
Trump's trash talk only works well in a debate against multiple opponents. When everyone has little screentime. When he needs a lot more time to talk, his flash over substance style fails hard.
@Planeforger: @Vaasman: CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP must be so proud of themselves.
But false name-calling aside, Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. Deep down you know this too.
trump sucked at the debates last time. Flat out sucked. Also using Fox News as proof of anything is ridiculous. FYI they are listed as entertainment not news.
Well of course.
Biden would also get destroyed by Kanye in debate. Would probably tell him he wasn't really black or something. Again.
*sigh*
Biden should just not acknowledge Trump. Pretend he doesn't exist.
"Mr Biden, what do you think of Trump's--"
"Who? Anyway, my plan is to do blah blah blah"
Well of course.
Biden would also get destroyed by Kanye in debate. Would probably tell him he wasn't really black or something. Again.
*sigh*
I think Kanye has more in common with white upper-class housewives than he does with the black demographic.
And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
This election's not really about Biden anyway, is it.
He'd probably face a coup in no time, were he to be elected. It's his VP Democrats should probably be focusing on.
Another stupid thread from Sevenizz. Just like the typical Trump supporter, doesn't even read the article and throws dumb conspiracy theories.
If I were a democratic strategist, I would simply not allow Biden to debate Trump. Not because he's scared, but because Trump doesn't debate. Trump will simply start throwing insults, lying his ass off and throwing a bunch of conspiracy theories. It will be a circus that will only make for good T.V but have zero depth. Trump is a joke and he'll make the debate into a joke.
lol linking a Tucker Carlson video. It's common knowledge that trailing campaigns want more debates as it gives more airtime and openings to increase polling. Trump and co. know he's down and this is their strategy. Biden's team isn't falling for it as they're not morons.
Maybe he should double down on opening up the country and sending kids back to school to spread disease. That strategy is doing wonders for Trump.
Biden should just not acknowledge Trump. Pretend he doesn't exist.
"Mr Biden, what do you think of Trump's--"
"Who? Anyway, my plan is to do blah blah blah"
Well of course.
Biden would also get destroyed by Kanye in debate. Would probably tell him he wasn't really black or something. Again.
*sigh*
I think Kanye has more in common with white upper-class housewives than he does with the black demographic.
And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
Indeed. Not sure why people praise Kanye.......he comes across crazy. Oh wait......trump fans say that. Never mind then........
Biden should just not acknowledge Trump. Pretend he doesn't exist.
"Mr Biden, what do you think of Trump's--"
"Who? Anyway, my plan is to do blah blah blah"
Well of course.
Biden would also get destroyed by Kanye in debate. Would probably tell him he wasn't really black or something. Again.
*sigh*
I think Kanye has more in common with white upper-class housewives than he does with the black demographic.
And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
Let's not mince words - they're black people, not "the black demographic". 'Course, I know what you meant and I'm being facetious, but TBH, I think that's still a big part of the problem in most countries with a multicultural mix - that it's often only the vote that counts, and when the election's over, very little ever changes. It's largely token politics - divide and rule stuff.
Kanye may be nuts, IDK actually, but Biden's also not got the best record on erratic behaviour and occasionally rather sinister speech.
Heh, I'd watch that debate for sure, at any rate. At the very least, it would be entertaining. :D
Biden should just not acknowledge Trump. Pretend he doesn't exist.
"Mr Biden, what do you think of Trump's--"
"Who? Anyway, my plan is to do blah blah blah"
I think Kanye has more in common with white upper-class housewives than he does with the black demographic.
And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
Let's not mince words - they're black people, not "the black demographic". 'Course, I know what you meant and I'm being facetious, but TBH, I think that's still a big part of the problem in most countries with a multicultural mix - that it's often only the vote that counts, and when the election's over, very little ever changes. It's largely token politics - divide and rule stuff.
Kanye may be nuts, IDK actually, but Biden's also not got the best record on erratic behaviour and occasionally rather sinister speech.
Heh, I'd watch that debate for sure, at any rate. At the very least, it would be entertaining. :D
Have you never listened to trump?
@LJS9502_basic: So you condemn Biden's behaviour too?
AFAIC, both are blown out of proportion, but it's in the eye of the beholder really. I just think "x is clearly nuts" isn't really a disqualifying argument if you accept any of the other two candidates. I suppose we agree on that.
@LJS9502_basic: So you condemn Biden's behaviour too?
AFAIC, both are blown out of proportion, but it's in the eye of the beholder really. I just think "x is clearly nuts" isn't really a disqualifying argument if you accept any of the other two candidates. I suppose we agree on that.
trump is dangerous.
@LJS9502_basic: So you condemn Biden's behaviour too?
AFAIC, both are blown out of proportion, but it's in the eye of the beholder really. I just think "x is clearly nuts" isn't really a disqualifying argument if you accept any of the other two candidates. I suppose we agree on that.
trump is dangerous.
Kanye 2020?
Biden should just not acknowledge Trump. Pretend he doesn't exist.
"Mr Biden, what do you think of Trump's--"
"Who? Anyway, my plan is to do blah blah blah"
Well of course.
Biden would also get destroyed by Kanye in debate. Would probably tell him he wasn't really black or something. Again.
*sigh*
I think Kanye has more in common with white upper-class housewives than he does with the black demographic.
And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
Probably because he's bipolar for which he famously eschews traditional treatment methods.
I hate to say this but no one cares about those rumours about Biden’s mental health. Trump constantly focusing on them is showing how out of touch he is with the electorate in this election cycle. Also the biden camp wants to debate trump. Trump just wants more debates.
@mattbbpl: But doesn’t shying away from a debate indicate fear?
I don’t think this bodes well with prospected voters when their potential candidate isn’t confident enough to participate in an American election tradition.
Debates are going to be of fairly low significance in the general (unlike the primaries, where they can make a larger difference). What is a debate going to reveal in this case anyway? Most people know where both candidates stand on issues. As for tradition, my guess is that it matters a lot less now than in times past.
As for fear?
Bone spurs?
Not releasing tax records?
Blocking witnesses from testifying for impeachment hearings?
Is that the kind of fear you are talking about?
Considering his abysmal performance of late when it comes to anything speaking related, not to mention the complete and utter lack of any energy, not debating Trump would be a major comedic loss for America and the world.
Considering his abysmal performance of late when it comes to anything speaking related, not to mention the complete and utter lack of any energy, not debating Trump would be a major comedic loss for America and the world.
The clownery of your idiot-in-chief provides an endless supply of comedic gold for the rest of the world. And as of late, by comedic I mean horrifying.
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And frankly, I don't think Kanye would do too well. He is too prone to saying batshit insane things.
Probably because he's bipolar for which he famously eschews traditional treatment methods.
Is he really? I had no idea. Suddenly everything makes a lot of sense, though.
Wouldn't it (shouldn't it?) be illegal for him to be president in that case?
@Planeforger: @Vaasman: CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP must be so proud of themselves.
But false name-calling aside, Trump will destroy Biden in the debates. Deep down you know this too.
Mate, stop trolling or are you a few roos short in the top paddock?
Does Trump even debate? Isn't he only throwing out insults?
Pretty much. As I recall last time he said nothing of substance......but he did call for the Russians to hack Clinton.
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