Chaos in Minneapolis - rioting and looting, National Guard Deployed

Office has been charged with 2nd degree manslaughter. Without knowing too much about what that charge means, it seems reasonable given the situation that unfolded.

i don't know what to tell you. you seem to think you can tell others how and what they ought to be protesting.

if it bugs you that much, i guess you can form your own organization focusing on black on black crime.

Like so may have said before, there's a reason why the song, "F uck the Police," exists.

No one ever wrote a song called, "F uck the Fire Department."

The point being that a common occurrence (a fun filled murder/shooting weekend in Chicago) goes largely ignored for an uproar over something relatively uncommon. If anyone is honest, what happened on Sunday is rare contrary to what the hustlers would have you believe.

a counter argument to the rarity of it explains WHY it is reported widely in the first place. if something's a common occurrence ( shootings in chicago ), is it really something that's going to garner eyeballs / clicks?

you see this a lot from folks on the right a lot. they seem to like to self-appoint themselves arbiters of how other people ought to be acting in response to something, or ESPECIALLY how the media SHOULD be reporting on things.

i don't understand why they think they're the ones to be doling out judgement.

typical timeline.

1) something happens

2) media reports on it, clicks are clicked and advertising dollars flow into coffers of said media outlets

3) folks on the right decide "the media" ( as if there's just 1 media on earth ) isn't reporting on it either as much or in a manner THEY deem proper.

4) folks on the right may also decide that "the media" should be covering some other story with just as much intensity

We're back to prepping for more rioting/looting similar to what we saw in the summer. At this rate, selling my house and moving out of crap-hole California seems like a pretty good plan.

@comp_atkins:

"ESPECIALLY how the media SHOULD be reporting on things."

So you believe the media shouldnt report truthfully. Got it.

You would make a good CNN reporter.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/04/14/cnn-staffer-tells-project-veritas-network-played-up-covid-19-death-toll-for-ratings/amp/

Your counter doesn't seem to be the reason(s) why we see the rare police shooting making the news though.

The media is a supposed "sacred" institution yet acts to the contrary. Sometimes it's presents itself as Cracked or Mad Magazine. Covering a typical weekend in the Windy City wouldn't fuel agendas and emotions as is the case with a rare police on black person shooting.

False narrative what have I posted that is false? The truth is you can't rebuttal a simple truth so you claim it is false. The media covers and interjects itself into incidents to make money. Not only do they interject themselves they stoke the fire of unrest just like the statements made by the Governor of Minnesota and the mayor of the community where this incident occurred. The city manager of the city was fired for stating everyone is entitled to due process.

lol. nice try, floyd

Sounds like it all just comes down to americans being freaking idiots as usual.

In comes the "cops are bad, people are innocent and good"-crowd, everytime this kinda shit happens.

Then you look at the reality, and its usually the complete opposite. Yeah, really fucking bad to use lethal force on someone when it isn't needed. But as long as it's only done to people committing crimes, we lose nothing but morons.

Where will you go?

Excellent question. Absolutely no clue, but wife has family in South Carolina and lots of connections in Washington DC. I absolutely hate humidity/heat however so I would much rather prefer a northern climate. Montana, Idaho, or New Hampshire, etc. Preferably rural area but within driving distance of, say for example, a Costco or Sams Club (bulk necessities always a plus).

Edit: Wife works permanently remote so the main issue is simply a place with decent(ish) internet. If I left being a cop, I wouldn't go back. Would probably consult for insurance companies, or lawyers, due to expert traffic investigation/DUI background.

South Carolina has some nice parts, but I feel ya on the temp and humidity pieces. Probably better finding a place a bit farther north.

CNN calls the riots peaceful demonstrations even when their own reporters had to flee for their safety while covering the latest riots. Real truth in journalism there.

You think not, CBS is facing a back lash for editing the body cam recording of Adam Teledo who was shot on March 29,2021 by a police officer in Chicago. They edited put him holding a gun. Which just proves what I have been posting about the media.

I thought this was hyperbolic, but after watching the footage, that's no joke at all. Sigh.

*sigh*

where in any of my comments am i implying that i think media should be dishonest?

just like @palasta you try to spin my statements and counter with "herp derp, you support media that lies"

There you go: "they seem to like to self-appoint themselves arbiters of how other people ought to be acting in response to something, or ESPECIALLY how the media SHOULD be reporting on things.

i don't understand why they think they're the ones to be doling out judgement."

And to repeat myself: You're suggesting there is no issue with the media supporting the false narrative of african americans being hunted and gunned down systemetically by police, giving false ideas about law enforcement work, painting perpetrators as innocent/unarmed even though they were not (eg Jacob Blake, Michael Brown, Bryonna Taylor) on a regular basis.

Some interesting developers as of late...

Drive-By Shooting: Two National Guard members injured by glass after being shot at last night.

Incitement: Maxine Waters telling "protestors" to be more confrontational and not to go away if Chauvin isn't found guilty.

Attempt at Witness Intimidation: Vandals Smear Chauvin Defense Witness’ Former Santa Rosa Home With Pig’s Blood

Where is the lefts outrage for Waters inciting violence? Oh I know they are hypocrites nothing to see here.

Cops ain't supposed to kill guilty people either.

They don't. Not on purpose and if they do they go to prison for it where they're treated worse than any inmate. However, when you fight police, and try to escape while being a legitimate threat to the public, your chances of being seriously injured or killed goes up exponentially.

Like many of these situations, this is a case of Darwinism more than anything else.

@Xabiss: No one cared when Democrats were literally bailing out criminals who were rioting. No one is going to care about this.

I mean, that's the world they want to live in isn't it? Inciting violence, intimidating witnesses, mob rule, suppression of any kind of free speech that they disagree with, suppression of any kind of religious liberty, no constitutional rights, kangaroo courts and a legislative judicial branch so they can get their laws made even without an elected legislature. Sure it sounds a like like Venezuela and other countries they adamantly claim they're not trying to turn us into, but at least they'll have their revenge on those big meanie conservatives.

LOL You can't be serious. You actually buy the BS "oh, I thought it was my taser" BS?

I don't care what someone has done in the past. That doesn't give anyone, cops included, the right to kill them.

Of course not. But the points you're missing is A) it wasn't done intentionally, rarely is this ever done intentionally, and B) if he hadn't made the decision to escalate the situation, he wouldn't have been in a position for such accidents to happen. Had he acted like an adult and taken responsibility for his crimes, he'd be alive today. In jail, but alive.

We should be reforming the kind of justice department that allowed a man, guilty of choking a woman he was holding at gunpoint and attempting to rob, to roam free on a $10,000 bond, do no jail time, fail to comply with rules of probation such as not being allowed to possess a firearm, and ruin a cops life by escalating the situation further when he was being taken into custody.

Tell me, why wasn't Wright in jail where pieces of shit like him belong? Strangle a woman held at gunpoint and not be in jail? Are you fucking kidding me? And people wonder why we have a crime problem in this country. And this ties into the gun control debate as well. The same people who are okay with assholes like Wright walking the street, illegally carrying a firearm and robbing women at gunpoint are the ones saying we need more laws. You can't even find a justice department willing to enforce the ones we have now.

Blah blah blah. There is victim blaming going on here and if you're defending that individuals post then you are doing the same.

Daunte Wright wasn't a victim. The sooner the left stops treating people like him with kid gloves, the sooner people like him will stop acting like people like him. He should have been doing a minimum of 5 years in prison for his crimes. There's absolutely no excuse for him being free at this point.

But you go find the woman he choked and put a gun to, tell her that he's a victim.

A victim? A victim of his own stupidity for sure.

whiff! missed it again.

want a third try?

again, nowhere do i suggest that the media ought to be dishonest. clear? nowhere.

my comment is regarding the tantrums people through regarding how both protesters "herp derp, why aren't they protesting this event and only focusing on that?" and media "herp derp, why isn't the media talking about THIS event more?" act in response to something. you typically see this behavior MUCH more from the right. my guess is folks already KNOW "conservative media" is bias AF and so don't try to hold them to expectations of neutrality.

want more say on what stories CNN covers? start buying ads or accumulating AT&T stock. eventually they'll listen.

I didn't see anyone holding up any media as being honest. I see you defending media that is being dishonest by making the claim that we subscribe to the "other side" and the other side does it too so it's okay for you to. Why are you trying to sell yourself on an excuse to justify being lied to? Do you really think there's much difference between Fox and CNN/NBC? Both sides manipulate people for the same agenda. They defend each other when one gets called out by a third party. They constantly have anchors moving to and from each of them as if they were different departments of the same company.

It's an illusion of opposition, and you fell for it.

A couple updates:

Judge calls out Maxine Waters by name;

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Monday rejected GOP claims Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters was "inciting violence" when she said in Minnesota over the weekend that protesters need "to get more confrontational" if former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is found not guilty in the death of George Floyd.

Later Monday, Chauvin's defense lawyer moved for a mistrial, based on Waters' comments, including that, "I hope that we are going to get a verdict that says, 'guilty, guilty, guilty,' and if we don't, then we cannot go away."

The judge criticized Waters by name for making the comments, calling them "abhorrent," but denied the defense argument that the jury, which wasn't sequestered at that point, could have been prejudiced, although he did say it might be grounds for an appeal.

DC National Guard Requested.

"The D.C. National Guard has received a request from the city to provide support to local law enforcement in anticipation of potential First Amendment demonstrations. The D.C. National Guard is prepared to support D.C. law enforcement, pending approval of this mission by the Secretary of the Army," the statement read.

Wow, just read this. Perfect example of the media trying to control the narrative they are trying to push. Just disgusting!

That is why all the left will skip over all of that without any rebuttals.

@comp_atkins: Yesyes, i understand you don't mind the media inciting the US people, pitching them against each other to keep up their ratings, deliberatly feeding the falsehood.

Despicable people.

Oh there's way more fake news going on behind these incidents than just that.

Lets sit back and see how many Democrats will ball up and condemn Waters and her typical verbiage but I think we know why many will be silent and give her a free pass.

Lol one outlet? He gave you one example of how far they go. At that point how can't you be disgusted?

Nearly every case they do the following:

1. Only show the incidents when it's a white cop and a brown victim

2. Always leave out the victims criminal history

3. Always assume the cop did it on purpose

Racism is a profitable business and gets tons of views. Don't think for a second they won't mold the narrative to keep people watching. Do you not remember Mike Brown " hands up don't shoot " which according to multiple witnesses was an absolute lie?

you're making the same assumption that @palasta made. how on earth am i defending media? to clarify, the "SHOULD be reporting" part from my quote about does not include "should they be honest or not". i'm not knocking anyone for saying the media should be honest because of-fucking-course they should be honest.

look, we've built ourselves a pretty messed up system these days with our media. i think we all agree on that. we all KNOW there is bias in the presentation of information and that bias is present to increase the profits for the entities presenting it, and yet so many on the right act shocked by it constantly. that is the point i was making. that's not a defense of the media in any way nor an acceptance that it is ok, but that is what we have.

beyond basic honesty, do you really expect cnn or fox or whomever to regularly report information that will potentially hurt revenues? it is pretty naïve if you do. we've built a system where advertising dollars and clicks reign supreme. maybe repealing the fairness doctrine was a huge mistake. i don't know.

Yet so many still pitch their bullshit narratives. And I'm not talking about one source I'm talking about the vast majority of MSM.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-chauvin-trial-right-verdict-overwhelming

The president is abusing his power to influence jurors. Absolutely disgusting to see the left try to play judge, jury and executioner instead of letting the legal process play itself out. If there was any doubt Democrats are the party of communism, Biden and Waters should have made that clear.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/549261-white-house-says-biden-wasnt-looking-to-influence-chauvin-jury

White House trying to backpedal from Biden's comments:

"The president has clearly been watching the trial closely, as many Americans have been. He was moved by his conversations with the [Floyd] family yesterday. He knows the family, and as somebody who has been impacted by grief himself, that was a large part of their conversation," Psaki said at a press briefing during which questions about Biden's comments were a recurring topic.

"As he also noted, the jury is sequestered, which is why he spoke to this," she continued. "But I would expect he will weigh in more further once there is a verdict and I'm not going to provide additional analysis on what he meant."

"We're not going to get ahead of an outcome. I expect when there is a verdict, he will have more to say," she added.