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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

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@n64dd said:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2019 have not even begun yet and the years biggest joke has already begun :)

But good luck to Warren and who else is going to run, the democratic primary will be a circus

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Would be a damn sight better than anything the republiCONs have put forth in quite some time.

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Now beto needs to make his announcement and Republicans have no one except old farts

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I feel like this cycle is going to be both painful and beneficial for the Democrats. Large and messy primaries tend to hurt the candidates in that particular cycle, but Democrats need to find the primary planks of their platform moving forward.

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The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

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@mattbbpl: All candidates on both sides will suck ass. Where is our Thomas Jefferson, or Abe Lincoln?

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@n64dd: Sacrificed at the altar of Right Wing ideology.

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@mattbbpl: Guess so.

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So... Anything else I should know about her except claiming native heritage that she didn't have?

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Wow, the Presidential Battle of 2020. Can't wait to see it on tv and different media outlets.

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Wow, the Presidential Battle of 2020. Can't wait to see it on tv and different media outlets.

Well, this is the Democratic primary.

And it looks like Bloomberg is going to waste some more cash and challenge Trump. Even though I doubt he will run, he is smart enough to know a losing battle.

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#13  Edited By Zaryia
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@Jacanuk said:
@n64dd said:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2019 have not even begun yet and the years biggest joke has already begun :)

But good luck to Warren and who else is going to run, the democratic primary will be a circus

What makes her a bigger joke than Trump?

Yeah she has that Native gaff. But Trump's list pales in comparison.

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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@n64dd said:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2019 have not even begun yet and the years biggest joke has already begun :)

But good luck to Warren and who else is going to run, the democratic primary will be a circus

What makes her a bigger joke than Trump?

Yeah she has that Native gaff. But Trump's list pales in comparison.

Well, you got your candidate and i will stick with the one who hopefully get´s reelected and secures 2 more supreme court nominations.

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@n64dd said:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2019 have not even begun yet and the years biggest joke has already begun :)

But good luck to Warren and who else is going to run, the democratic primary will be a circus

What makes her a bigger joke than Trump?

Yeah she has that Native gaff. But Trump's list pales in comparison.

Well, you got your candidate and i will stick with the one who hopefully get´s reelected and secures 2 more supreme court nominations.

1. She's not my candidate, I don't want her to win or run. I'm not even a (D).

2. You dodged my question. I'll try again. Did you call her a joke due to that one Native American gaff? If this is the case, I was simply wondering what you think of Trump and his far more numerous and serious gaffs and legal problems. By logic, wouldn't he be an even far greater joke? Merely a point of interest.

Anyways,

hopefully get´s reelected and secures 2 more supreme court nominations.

As an independent and non-tribal, I can't possibly think it would be good for the country if that many seats were tilted right in the SCOTUS. Especially with so many hot button issues having center-left polling. Doesn't seem healthy.

Same goes for if there was a major left tilt.

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#16 vl4d_l3nin
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@zaryia said:

What makes her a bigger joke than Trump?

Yeah she has that Native gaff. But Trump's list pales in comparison.

She played right into Trumps game. She gave him exactly what he wanted.

If an clown is able to outsmart you, what does that say about you?

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@vl4d_l3nin said:
@zaryia said:

What makes her a bigger joke than Trump?

Yeah she has that Native gaff. But Trump's list pales in comparison.

She played right into Trumps game. She gave him exactly what he wanted.

If an clown is able to outsmart you, what does that say about you?

That's absolutely true. She got trolled hard.

But, Trump still has far more gaffs, and much worse ones. Access Hollywood, Cohen, Daniels, Shitholes, $500million loan, Charity closure, Trump University, Central Park 5, Black tenants lawsuit, Climate denial, etc. It's endless. Sadly your point about who got trolled or "dunked on" harder is probably more important to people these days.

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@Jacanuk: the Simpson predicted trump becoming president and then to be fallowed by the firat woman president.

Just say.....that ahow predicted alot of things.

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@Jacanuk: the Simpson predicted trump becoming president and then to be fallowed by the firat woman president.

Just say.....that ahow predicted alot of things.

They deal in satire, not prognostication. Don't take them too seriously.

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@zaryia said:

1. She's not my candidate, I don't want her to win or run. I'm not even a (D).

2. You dodged my question. I'll try again. Did you call her a joke due to that one Native American gaff? If this is the case, I was simply wondering what you think of Trump and his far more numerous and serious gaffs and legal problems. By logic, wouldn't he be an even far greater joke? Merely a point of interest.

Anyways,

hopefully get´s reelected and secures 2 more supreme court nominations.

As an independent and non-tribal, I can't possibly think it would be good for the country if that many seats were tilted right in the SCOTUS. Especially with so many hot button issues having center-left polling. Doesn't seem healthy.

Same goes for if there was a major left tilt.

Considering there are two choices, it does not matter what you call the one you vote for. And you clearly do not intend to vote for Trump.

Also did not dodge anything, just not interesting in drawing out the conversation into that kind of debate. When the only reason to be for trump the next 2 supreme court nominations.

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#21 vl4d_l3nin
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@zaryia: Precisely. This has been Trumps game decades before he became President.

TV news media is by far the biggest victim of the Trump dunks. They are much more worried about protecting their own reputation than providing news.

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@dreman999 said:

@Jacanuk: the Simpson predicted trump becoming president and then to be fallowed by the firat woman president.

Just say.....that ahow predicted alot of things.

Well, Simpsons also predicted that a huge bowl would come down.

But as to Warren, considering she is around 5% chance in the polls, it´s going to be hard for her to become president when she can´t even get past her own primary. And the other choice Harris is an even longer short.

If everything falls into the right spots, Biden will be the next Democratic presidential candidate and he stands the best chance of beating Trump.

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@mattbbpl: All candidates on both sides will suck ass. Where is our Thomas Jefferson, or Abe Lincoln?

Ah two presidents I actually think were good. Are you sure you're N64dd? LOL.

Happy New Year. I have hope for you yet.

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@mattbbpl: do you know how many times that satire turnwd out to be true?

Lighting hitting onece is one thing but well...

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Eh, I don't know too much about Elizabeth Warren personally. The article says she was against Wall Street during the recession of 2008. It triggered my memory. I think, if I remember correctly, she was part the Green political party. I guess she switched to Democrat?

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I’d rather have Kamala Harris but whatever

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Lets get this party started.

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@joebones5000 said:

I will vote for any Democrat over Trump. I don't care who it is. Anyone is better than this traitor.

I'd vote for joebones over Trump.

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Has Trump begun his infantile insults yet? There’s no time like the present for him to get started.

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@watercrack445 said:

Eh, I don't know too much about Elizabeth Warren personally. The article says she was against Wall Street during the recession of 2008. It triggered my memory. I think, if I remember correctly, she was part the Green political party. I guess she switched to Democrat?

Republican until '96 or so I think.

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@watercrack445 said:

Wow, the Presidential Battle of 2020. Can't wait to see it on tv and different media outlets.

It's going to be quite the media circus... again.

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@horgen said:
@watercrack445 said:

Eh, I don't know too much about Elizabeth Warren personally. The article says she was against Wall Street during the recession of 2008. It triggered my memory. I think, if I remember correctly, she was part the Green political party. I guess she switched to Democrat?

Republican until '96 or so I think.

She was indeed.

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@horgen said:
@watercrack445 said:

Eh, I don't know too much about Elizabeth Warren personally. The article says she was against Wall Street during the recession of 2008. It triggered my memory. I think, if I remember correctly, she was part the Green political party. I guess she switched to Democrat?

Republican until '96 or so I think.

She voted Republican for 4 years 91 to 95 because she felt they were most market-friendly but her ideologies have always been on the left.

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Dear modern Democrat,

I'm a former Democrat and now Trump supporter. I'm curious why you guys care more about the rest of the world than Republicans? Aren't Republicans still your fellow Americans or do you like Canadian, European & Mexican nationals more than Republicans? You seemed to be allied with foreign nationals against 50% of your countrymen (Republicans).

Sincerely,

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-(Like Bill Clinton said, we're all nationalists)

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The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

only if facts are not being debated, which, lets be honest here, they will not be.

we literally had a presidental candidate talking about his dick size in the last round of debates, so we're heading in a good direction.

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@luzarius: Patriot. Not Nationalist.

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@comp_atkins said:
@Sevenizz said:

The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

only if facts are not being debated, which, lets be honest here, they will not be.

we literally had a presidental candidate talking about his dick size in the last round of debates, so we're heading in a good direction.

So... Whoever shows up in the smallest car wins the debate?

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@comp_atkins said:
@Sevenizz said:

The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

only if facts are not being debated, which, lets be honest here, they will not be.

we literally had a presidental candidate talking about his dick size in the last round of debates, so we're heading in a good direction.

You mean we literally had a mainstream media discuss and attack a presidential candidate's "hand size", which made him feel the need to defend himself. That is how low the left will go.

Also, Warren needs to win the Democratic primary before she meets Trump in debates, and how the field is shaping up, it looks very very unlikely that she will even get past the 5 initial primaries.

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@Jacanuk said:
@comp_atkins said:
@Sevenizz said:

The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

only if facts are not being debated, which, lets be honest here, they will not be.

we literally had a presidental candidate talking about his dick size in the last round of debates, so we're heading in a good direction.

You mean we literally had a mainstream media discuss and attack a presidential candidate's "hand size", which made him feel the need to defend himself. That is how low the left will go.

Also, Warren needs to win the Democratic primary before she meets Trump in debates, and how the field is shaping up, it looks very very unlikely that she will even get past the 5 initial primaries.

People attack Trump because he makes himself a prime target. It's as if you guys fail to realize that perhaps, if Trump didn't conduct himself like a child, he wouldn't be attacked and treated like one?

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Trump is going to destroy her.

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@MirkoS77: How would you react when a network like CNN devotes an entire afternoon of pundits doing nothing but attacking and lying about you on a daily basis? Not call them out on it?

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@Jacanuk said:
@comp_atkins said:
@Sevenizz said:

The debates will be fun! Trump will wipe the floor with her!

only if facts are not being debated, which, lets be honest here, they will not be.

we literally had a presidental candidate talking about his dick size in the last round of debates, so we're heading in a good direction.

You mean we literally had a mainstream media discuss and attack a presidential candidate's "hand size", which made him feel the need to defend himself. That is how low the left will go.

Also, Warren needs to win the Democratic primary before she meets Trump in debates, and how the field is shaping up, it looks very very unlikely that she will even get past the 5 initial primaries.

Marco Rubio, another GOP presidential candidate, insulted his hand size which prompted Trump's response.

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#45  Edited By MirkoS77
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@Sevenizz said:

@MirkoS77: How would you react when a network like CNN devotes an entire afternoon of pundits doing nothing but attacking and lying about you on a daily basis? Not call them out on it?

If I were the president of the United States of America, the most powerful man in the world, no, I wouldn't concern myself with such matters. At that point it's far beneath my station and I'd have bigger issues to occupy my time with (one would think). Especially because it would be my job to be the one to protect their right to do their job, not demean and desire to eradicate that which doesn't push my partisan agenda and narrative.

Don't delude yourself, Trump has no interest in the "integrity" of journalism; only the integrity of kissing his ass at all times. I for one certainly wouldn't act like I'm in grade school, which is the main reason why such vitriol and contempt is thrown his way. There's always going to be partisan divides and bias in the media, but you're kidding yourself if you believe that Trump's personal antics don't warrant it. It he acted respectably and like a grown up, he'd have a far, FAR easier time in the world of adults. But no, he acts like a baby and then whines like one when he treated as such, with his cultists crying their little victim complex all the while.

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#46  Edited By judaspete
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@horgen: She fought to create the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which to date has gotten around $12 billion back into the hands of consumers who had been victims of fraud or deceptive practices by corporations and banks. And when they wouldn't let her run the Bureau, she ran for Senate.

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@MirkoS77: For the record, the media does not have a ‘right’ to just flat out lie to their viewers to project their bias. That’s not journalism.

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@Sevenizz: I see. But the president does? And for the record, his responsibility far transcends journalism’s and impacts peoples’ lives far more.

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@Sevenizz said:

@MirkoS77: For the record, the media does not have a ‘right’ to just flat out lie to their viewers to project their bias. That’s not journalism.

You're correct, they don't have the right to lie. If Trump could prove a news organization knowingly lied about him, could sue them. But the man has trouble telling the difference between a lie and information he just doesn't like.

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#50 Sevenizz
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@MirkoS77: Who’s life has been altered negatively because of Trump?