@thenation said:
@silentchief: Whatever you say buddy. We will just ignore all the evidence, indictments and jail time, just for you. It wasnt a hoax.
Trump got jail time?
Florida starts turning on DeSantis
@silentchief: Should have. But no worries, everything is as you think it is.
@thenation: So you believe in conspiracy theories. Thanks for proving my point.
@silentchief: whatever helps you feel better about yourself.
@Maroxad: More than enough facts exist for this not to be a conspiracy theory. Qanon is though.
@thenation said:
@Maroxad: More than enough facts exist for this not to be a conspiracy theory. Qanon is though.
QAnon definately is unsupported. The Right Wing is extremely conspiritorial, which isnt surprising with what Academic studies have shown on attributes correlated to Right Wing Thought.
- Anti-Semitic Claptrap
- Artificial Diseases
- Barrack Obama (Too many to list)
- Black Helicopters
- Chemtrails
- Climate Change being a Hoax
- Clinton Body Count
- COVID 19 Coming from a Lab
- COVID 19 Nonsense in general (not just the above)
- Crisis Body Actors
- Cultural Marxism
- Deepwater Horizon
- Deep State
- Eurabia
- FEMA Camps
- Flat Earth
- Freemasonry
- George Soros
- Harold Wilson being a KGB spy
- Illuminati
- New World Order
- Opposition to Flouridation of Water usually came from conspiritorial thought
- Pizzagate
- Right Wing Persecution by Social Media
- Sandy Hook
- Stolen Election (2020)
- Trump-Ukraine Deflection
- Vaccine Hesistancy (Funny how this used to belong to the left)
- War on Christmas
- White Genocide
In particular, people with strong Right Wing thought has been demonstrated to having a much stronger fear response. So it makes sense that conspiracy theories, which is nourish a paranoid mind, are extremely common on the right.
While it makes sense from an emotional perspective, it is terrible from an optical, strategical perspective. I know people in the advertising business, and while they aren't too hot on Left Wing Politics, the online Right is viewed very negatively. Reason being that the online right is extremely prone to conspiracy theories, which advertisers and businesses do NOT even want to risk being associated with.
@Maroxad: In particular, people with strong Right Wing thought has been demonstrated to having a much stronger fear response. So it makes sense that conspiracy theories, which is nourish a paranoid mind, are extremely common on the right.
Except that's not factually not true
They are just scared of different things. The lefts fear train is just as long.
- Over react to Covid
- Covid was created to kill PoC
- Trump white supremacist theories
- Trumps an Agent of Putin
- stolen election 2016
- Fear of white supremacy
- Extreme fear of the police
- undercover nazi death squads
- Bush 911 conspiracy theory
-LGBTQ persecution complex
- PoC persecution complex
- Climate change will destroy the earth in 10 years
- Cow farts
- Koch Brothers
- Bush/Katrina Conspiracy
And a large portion of your post are not conspiracy theories, or have no association with the right.. We still don't know where the virus came from.. And social media does in fact have a strong left wing bias.. And flat earth was created by a rapper and then peddaled on social media. Now sure how you associate low IQ urban myths with the right. Same with the Ilumanniti. It was an Urban myth and somehow got linked to the right because of Alex Jones yet you forget the left accused the Bush family of being a part of it for years... rappers such as Tupac would mention it frequently in lyrics... and he was by no means associated with the right.
@silentchief said:
@Maroxad: In particular, people with strong Right Wing thought has been demonstrated to having a much stronger fear response. So it makes sense that conspiracy theories, which is nourish a paranoid mind, are extremely common on the right.
Except that's not factually not true
They are just scared of different things. The lefts fear train is just as long.
- Over react to CovidThis is not a conspiracy theory, panicing is not healthy but beats the alternative
- Covid was created to kill PoC
- Trump white supremacist theories Trump being a white supremacist (he isnt), is not a conspiracy theory, it is an accusation, unless you were thinking of something else
- Trumps an Agent of PutinYou have been shown wrong on this in this very thread
- stolen election 2016People didnt say the election of 2016 was stolen. People said that hte electoral college was unjust.
- Fear of white supremacyWhite supremacy IS a big issue. Also, not a conspiracy
- Extreme fear of the policeNot a conspiracy
- undercover nazi death squadsThis would be a conspiracy theory... if someone actually believed it.
- Bush 911 conspiracy theory
-LGBTQ persecution complexLOL, you do realize that LGBT still find it very hard to find acceptance, ESPECIALLY transgender people
- PoC persecution complexAgain, this is overwhelmingly supported by evidence.
- Climate change will destroy the earth in 10 yearsThis is not a conspiracy theory, it is unscientific, not a conspiracy theory.
- Cow fartsIt is a snarky take on Climate Change, meant to highlight The impact livestock have on farming
- Koch Brothers What are you referring to here? Only times I see Koch Brothers mentioned in left wing circles is primarily how they fund certain forms of activism, and they have been accurate in those times.
- Bush/Katrina Conspiracy
And a large portion of your post are not conspiracy theories, or have no association with the right.. We still don't know where the virus came from.. And social media does in fact have a strong left wing bias.. And flat earth was created by a rapper and then peddaled on social media. Now sure how you associate low IQ urban myths with the right. Same with the Ilumanniti. It was an Urban myth and somehow got linked to the right because of Alex Jones yet you forget the left accused the Bush family of being a part of it for years... rappers such as Tupac would mention it frequently in lyrics... and he was by no means associated with the right.
Interesting, good to be up to date on that. Then I have to wonder why the right are so conspiratorial.
The stuff I pointed out is generally associated with the right, some of them can be picked up by the left too (illuminati), but arent anywhere near as prevelant there. The stuff that arent necessarily conspiracy theories per say, are brought up because their rejection is justificed by conspiracy theories. The largest vector for a decent chunk of those was Fox News.
We don't know where the virus came from, but the wuhan lab leak is unsupported by evidence that hasnt already been debunked a thousand times.
Flat Earth is a pseudoscience, But it maintains its grip through conspiracy theories. Usually about how they are suppressed in the Academia. I know I didn't explain this clearly enough, so I apologize for that. It is primarily associated with the right these days, because it is perpetrated primarily by religious right types, in a desperate attempt to defend their delusions.
The only reason far right stuff are more frequently moderated on Social Media is because you guys keep breaking the ToS, and post stuff that in general, is less advertiser friendly. Notice how moderate right wingers avoid getting into trouble?
@Maroxad said:
@silentchief said:
@Maroxad: In particular, people with strong Right Wing thought has been demonstrated to having a much stronger fear response. So it makes sense that conspiracy theories, which is nourish a paranoid mind, are extremely common on the right.
Except that's not factually not true
They are just scared of different things. The lefts fear train is just as long.
- Over react to CovidThis is not a conspiracy theory, panicing is not healthy but beats the alternative
- Covid was created to kill PoC
- Trump white supremacist theories Trump being a white supremacist (he isnt), is not a conspiracy theory, it is an accusation, unless you were thinking of something else
- Trumps an Agent of PutinYou have been shown wrong on this in this very thread
- stolen election 2016People didnt say the election of 2016 was stolen. People said that hte electoral college was unjust.
- Fear of white supremacyWhite supremacy IS a big issue. Also, not a conspiracy
- Extreme fear of the policeNot a conspiracy
- undercover nazi death squads This is a conspiracy, but how common is this? Exactly
- Bush 911 conspiracy theory
-LGBTQ persecution complexLOL, you do realize that LGBT still find it very hard to find acceptance, ESPECIALLY transgender people
- PoC persecution complexAgain, this is overwhelmingly supported by evidence.
- Climate change will destroy the earth in 10 yearsThis is not a conspiracy theory, it is unscientific, not a conspiracy theory.
- Cow fartsIt is a snarky take on Climate Change, meant to highlight The impact livestock have on farming
- Koch Brothers What are you referring to here? Only times I see Koch Brothers mentioned in left wing circles is primarily how they fund certain forms of activism, and they have been accurate in those times.
- Bush/Katrina Conspiracy
And a large portion of your post are not conspiracy theories, or have no association with the right.. We still don't know where the virus came from.. And social media does in fact have a strong left wing bias.. And flat earth was created by a rapper and then peddaled on social media. Now sure how you associate low IQ urban myths with the right. Same with the Ilumanniti. It was an Urban myth and somehow got linked to the right because of Alex Jones yet you forget the left accused the Bush family of being a part of it for years... rappers such as Tupac would mention it frequently in lyrics... and he was by no means associated with the right.
Everything I linked is associated with the right. The stuff that arent necessarily conspiracy theories per say, are linked because they are justified by conspiracy theories (Flat Earth)
We don't know where the virus came from, but the wuhan lab leak is unsupported by evidence that hasnt already been debunked a thousand times.
Flat Earth is a pseudoscience, But it maintains its grip through conspiracy theories. Usually about how they are suppressed in the Academia. I know I didn't explain this clearly enough, so I apologize for that. It is primarily associated with the right these days, because it is perpetrated primarily by religious right types, in a desperate attempt to defend their religious delusions.
The only reason far right stuff are more frequently moderated on Social Media is because you guys keep breaking the ToS, and post stuff that in general, is less advertiser friendly. Notice how moderate right wingers avoid getting into trouble?
No they are not. Flat Earth and the illuminati have nothing to do with the right. They are equally associated with the left. The flat Earth conspiracy was spread by several well known rappers across Twitter and then spread through young dumb Urban youth. One got into a Twitter feud with Neil Degrassi Tyson.
The Wuhan lab theory has also not been debunked nor proven wrong.
The rest of your post I'm just going to sit back and laugh as you literally defend every left wing conspiracy theory. I'll address a few if them.
The PoC persecution complex for one is hilarious. We have overwhelming evidence that just about every corporate and government entity goes out of their way to give them an advantage. PoC fear of police is not justified and is proven by basic facts that they have more deadly run ins with the police because they commit far more violent crimes. Trump was never a Russian agent and the fact you still believe thst is concerning. White supremacy is not or should not be a big issue. As every piece of statistical evidence shows a a white person is far more likely to be killed by a PoC then a PoC is to be killed by a white person. Most people are killed by someone of their own race. Regardless white supremacist hold no institutional power unlike those on the far left. The Koch Brothers have funded just as many right wing agendas as Soros has done for the left. The Koch Brothers are to the left as Soros is to the right. LGBTQ people are over represented in just about every form of popular media and celebrated constantly by MSM.
@silentchief said:
No they are not. Flat Earth and the illuminati have nothing to do with the right. They are equally associated with the left. The flat Earth conspiracy was spread by several well known rappers across Twitter and then spread through young dumb Urban youth.
The Wuhan lab theory has also not been debunked nor proven wrong.
The rest of your post I'm just going to sit back and laugh as you literally defend every left wing conspiracy theory. I'll address a few if them.
The PoC persecution complex for one is hilarious. We have overwhelming evidence that just about every corporate and government entity goes out of their way to give them an advantage. PoC fear of police is not justified and is proven by basic facts that they have more deadly run ins with the police because they commit far more violent crimes. Trump was never a Russian agent and the fact you still believe thst is concerning. White supremacy is not or should not be a big issue. As every piece of statistical evidence shows a a white person is far more likely to be killed by a PoC then a PoC is to be killed by a white person. Most people are killed by someone of their own race. Regardless white supremacist hold no institutional power unlike those on the far left. The Koch Brothers have funded just as many right wing agendas as Soros has done for the left. The Koch Brothers are to the left as Soros is to the right. LGBTQ people are over represented in just about every form of popular media and celebrated constantly by MSM.
The Illuminati iwhile it exists on the left, find a larger foothold on the right. Flat Earthers, is a bit more mixed, but is primarily propagated by religious literalists, and most propagaters the communitites conspiracy theories lie on the right. I will take back what I said on Chemtrails though. While Fox News did a fine job spreading it, it seems to be more popular on the left these days.
Most conspiracy theories arent proven wrong. They are just never supported by evidence and unfalsifiable. What I said is that the "evidence" for the Wuhan Leak has been debunked. Which is why the conspiracy theory is laughed at by pretty much the whole scientific community.
Corporations Virtue Signalling (whether it is PoC or LGBT) doesnt detract from the fact that these people are very much discriminated.
White Supremacists are an issue, right wing terrorism is the biggest source of terrorism the US faces, and one of the 3 components of this is white supremacy.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
THIS is what people are acknowledging. This is not a conspiracy theory.
The difference is that the left merely correctly point out that some sources have funding from the Koch Brothers. This is not conspiratorial. Whereas the right has painted George Soros as more than someone who merely donates to various causes. There is a difference. I will attribute this to a vagueness on my initial list.
Also people pointed out that your Trump Russian Agent Strawman was wrong. What people have correctly pointed out is that some individuals in his campaign very much had ties to russia.
Either way, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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