Former Mexican President Announces His Run for U.S. President in 2020.

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#1 xdude85
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Obviously a joke, but this is savage.

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#2  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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He got my vote.

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Ouch. Brutal. But funny.

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These wouldn't be nearly so entertaining if they didn't get under Trump's skin. A clown should be laughed at.

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The funny thing is that Vicente Fox kind of is the Mexican Donald Trump with just a splash of Ted Cruz thrown in for good measure.

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I'm voting for him!

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holy shit that was good

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Everyone wants to cash in on the jokes that write themselves. Nonetheless, I always enjoy his videos.

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I'll admit that it had some funny parts in it. Now, if only he, along with other Mexican politicians, could have made Mexico a better place to live so we wouldn't be debating here in the United States whether or not it was cruel to get rid of DACA right now.

Whether or not people that hate Donald Trump want to admit it, part of the reason he is president right now is because he promised to do something about illegal immigration from Mexico, a subject that his political opponents ignored, assuming that they didn't outright promise amnesty. Can't promise to do anything about illegal aliens from Mexico if people from Mexico didn't have a reason to come here versus staying in Mexico.

I can't remember the last time I heard people claiming that we are cruel because we are threatening to take away protections for Dreamers from Canada that were bought here by their parents while they were children. Probably because Canada is a much better place to live and they have no reason to come down here illegally.

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#11  Edited By mrbojangles25
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"pee tape" lol!

"Covfefe"

"A taco truck on every corner"

omfg I forgot about all these things. Things move so quickly now, we hear about so much.

could have done without that bit about his dead dad, though; low blow, man, low blow.

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Hilarious. LMAO

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#13  Edited By MirkoS77
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@ad1x2 said:

Whether or not people that hate Donald Trump want to admit it, part of the reason he is president right now is because he promised to do something about illegal immigration from Mexico, a subject that his political opponents ignored, assuming that they didn't outright promise amnesty. Can't promise to do anything about illegal aliens from Mexico if people from Mexico didn't have a reason to come here versus staying in Mexico.

The reason Trump won on immigration was people were actually dumb and gullible enough to buy into the bullshit of a lifelong conman salesman whose simplistic solution overcast a very complex issue. Does anyone actually believe that had his opponent presented immigration reform in a practical and sensible manner far better than Trump's wall that he would have lost on the issue?

That is delusion. He still would have won due to his blanket idealisms and sensationalist rhetoric that appealed to the underlying phobias in people sans the practicalities of the problem they desire addressed. The populace aren't interested in the details, they want solutions, and Trump provided them in spades without actually considering the logistics. As has been evidenced by his promise on healthcare repeal, which he claimed would be "so easy" and dismantled on "day one", it's obvious this idiot had no idea as to the gravitas of what the hell he was even talking about.

You're right that it's the reason Trump was elected, but let's not pretend that had his opponent stood toe to toe with him on the issue that he would have lost. He succeeded due to his manner and approach which he had honed throughout a life of telling people exactly what they wished to hear, nothing more.

Trump succeeded by being a conman, and I don't understand how people do not see that.

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@MirkoS77 said:

You're right that it's the reason Trump was elected, but let's not pretend that had his opponent stood toe to toe with him on the issue that he would have lost. He succeeded due to his manner and approach which he had honed throughout a life of telling people exactly what they wished to hear, nothing more.

Trump succeeded by being a conman, and I don't understand how people do not see that.

You're right that if Hillary Clinton stood toe to toe with him on stopping illegal immigration that he would have still won, but not for the reason you say. The reason he would have still won is because many Republicans want something done about immigration enforcement while many Democrats want more compassion for illegal aliens, to include a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers and shorter wait times for visas.

A Democratic candidate vowing to deport illegal aliens and building a wall on the Mexican border wouldn't have captured the votes of Republicans that believed she was lying and some Democrats would have refused to vote for her and would have either voted for whatever third party promised to give Dreamers the easiest pathway to citizenship or they would have just stayed home. Hillary Clinton was even criticized for failing to call them "undocumented" and apologized for it. It would have been like a Republican trying to tell a pro-life crowd that he wanted to make it easier to get an abortion, or a Democrat telling a pro-choice crowd that he was going to try and get Roe v. Wade overturned.

There are several other reasons people voted for Trump that was completely unrelated to his promises about dealing with illegal immigration. Also, there are a lot of Trump supporters that hope the wall never goes up because they know that it is a complete waste of money. It is possible to vote for someone because you agree with some of their ideas, while you don't agree with others. To assume that Trump's biggest supporters are all in on every proposal he makes is a little misinformed. I know that this section is mostly liberal, but I am probably right to assume that almost everyone here is a gamer. Based on that, very few people here would have agreed with Hillary Clinton's past views on violent video games, but that didn't stop them from wanting her to win, since they felt she was the better choice than Donald Trump.

The point of my original post wasn't whether or not Trump is a conman, or that he promised to be stronger against illegal immigration. My point was that something as big and divisive as illegal immigration would have never been a deciding factor in last year's election in the first place if Mexico could pull their head out their ass and figure out how to make their country the kind of place people wouldn't risk their life to escape. If neither candidate needed to talk about deportation versus amnesty, then other issues each party feels passionate about may have been the deciding factor and for all we know, the inability to promise to get rid of "bad hombres" and restore jobs that were being done by illegal immigrants would have kept Trump from even making it out of the primaries, if he ran at all.

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@ad1x2: So legal immigration also doesn't appeal to Republicans? Basically the selfish greedy party and that's just one more example.

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@LJS9502_basic: I never said anything about Republicans being against legal immigration, I'm not sure how you got that conclusion from my post.

The point of my post was that the Mexican government is to blame for having a small chunk of their population illegally in America, but they get zero blame and instead it is the big, bad, racist Republicans that are criticized for not welcoming every single one of them with open arms.

Fact of the matter is a former Mexican president claiming that he could run America better than our current one (even as a joke like in the video) is ironic, when millions of Mexican citizens are in America illegally as we speak because of the piss poor job his government did running Mexico. Remind me how many Canadians are in the US illegally as a comparison.

You shouldn't have to be a celebrity, a politician, or part of a drug cartel to make a living down there.

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@ad1x2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: I never said anything about Republicans being against legal immigration, I'm not sure how you got that conclusion from my post.

The point of my post was that the Mexican government is to blame for having a small chunk of their population illegally in America, but they get zero blame and instead it is the big, bad, racist Republicans that are criticized for not welcoming every single one of them with open arms.

Fact of the matter is a former Mexican president claiming that he could run America better than our current one (even as a joke like in the video) is ironic, when millions of Mexican citizens are in America illegally as we speak because of the piss poor job his government did running Mexico. Remind me how many Canadians are in the US illegally as a comparison.

You shouldn't have to be a celebrity, a politician, or part of a drug cartel to make a living down there.

What reasons are you blaming the Mexican government for and are you aware that the Hispanic illegal immigrants are not all from Mexico?

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@ad1x2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Fact of the matter is a former Mexican president claiming that he could run America better than our current one (even as a joke like in the video) is ironic, when millions of Mexican citizens are in America illegally as we speak because of the piss poor job his government did running Mexico. Remind me how many Canadians are in the US illegally as a comparison.

You shouldn't have to be a celebrity, a politician, or part of a drug cartel to make a living down there.

Last i checked the nearly sole reason for (parts of) Mexico being as bad as it is, is because of our war on drugs and the deals between our government and banks to keep it alive.

Id also like to point out that how silly the last sentence is. Aside from a handful of really bad cartel areas, most of the country lives normal lives with normal jobs and normal children and immigration to the US is a fraction of what it once was, and it continues to drop because much of the Mexican economy continues to improve.....unlike our own. Also as LJS pointed out, much of the "illegal" immigrants you're equating as Mexican, are actually central American..... and again... many of them are fleeing due to drug violence that again is created by our absurd laws and our corrupted bankers and politicians who want to control everything.

Now im not a "lets blame America for the worlds problems" kind of guy, but you cannot objectively look at these situations and conclude that its anything else.

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#19  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Can't even handle a narco state.

Say shit like that while in office and we'll turn you into Venezuela.

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@LJS9502_basic: @kod: I am well aware that not all Hispanic illegal aliens are from Mexico. I focused on Mexico in my post because of the fact that the video in the original post was of a former Mexican president claiming that he could do a better job running America than Donald Trump, when more Hispanic illegal aliens come from Mexico than any other Central American country.

If a former president of Guatemala did the video, then I would point out that almost 60,000 of the people caught trying to illegally cross the US-Mexican border last year were from Guatemala, and there is no telling how many more were not caught and actually made it in, as well as how many simply decided to stay in Mexico versus trying to get into the US. Back when I was a recruiter for the Army, I knew an 18-year old senior in high school that was from there and wanted to join, and it hurt to tell her that I couldn't touch her until she had a Green Card. She didn't illegally cross the border, she had an expired visa due to the neglect of her dad that made sure he got his Green Card while forgetting about his daughter, and it would have been a little easier for her to become legal with a good enough immigration lawyer.

While you are correct that one of the biggest customers of the cartels are Americans KOD, that doesn't change the fact that the Mexican government could do something about it. The problem is they are either too scared of or too deep in the pockets of the cartels to stop them. If they would stop them, then the demand up here wouldn't matter, and there are plenty of other sources of drugs if Mexico can't supply them anymore.

You can point out that there are places in Mexico that are nice, and I know that you are right. But that doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of places that are still messed up and the Mexican government is partially responsible. We have our screwed up places up here, but very few of the people in those messed up places are running to Canada and many either deal with it or move to some place better if they can.

Sure, some people that are terrified of Trump are trying to get asylum in Canada, or in the case of some people in California, trying to get Calexit to happen, but fleeing the United States because of political differences isn't the same as fleeing because of crime or poverty.

I know that blaming all of our problems on Trump makes people feel better because it gives them hope that when January 2021 gets here, the new Democratic president that they believe will defeat Trump (or Pence if he is impeached first) in a landslide would undo every wrong he did assuming that he didn't nuke anyone. I figure, whatever helps them sleep at night.

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@ad1x2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: @kod: I am well aware that not all Hispanic illegal aliens are from Mexico. I focused on Mexico in my post because of the fact that the video in the original post was of a former Mexican president claiming that he could do a better job running America than Donald Trump, when more Hispanic illegal aliens come from Mexico than any other Central American country.

Right, i just don't know how reasonable or legitimate of a statement that is. Trump is as incompetent as it gets politically, i feel i could do a better job than him and ive never said about any other president no matter what their party was. He knows real estate.... that's it.

But to further touch on why its kind of a silly statement to make is if you take a look at one of the current uprising trends for young people in America. Which is moving to other countries to attend college and possible seek careers. This is something that is on a very steep incline. Its become so popular many countries now have programs solely for American students to move there, get a good education and become a productive member of society. Not to mention the estimated 8 million Americans who traveled to Mexico for dental work in the past five years, or those who go to Canada for doctors and medicine (government made sure they could no longer ship those cheaper drugs here).............. so you get my point here right? Suggesting that the Mexican president could not be a qualified US president simply because of immigration (which again, has dramatically declined over the past 20 years) when our own country is now guilty of the same thing and it is simply going to increase more and more and more..... yah get it? Its kind of a stupid comment to make.

@ad1x2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: @kod: While you are correct that one of the biggest customers of the cartels are Americans KOD, that doesn't change the fact that the Mexican government could do something about it. The problem is they are either too scared of or too deep in the pockets of the cartels to stop them. If they would stop them, then the demand up here wouldn't matter, and there are plenty of other sources of drugs if Mexico can't supply them anymore.

I mean........ really? What do you expect "Mexico" to do here? Maybe have a war on drugs of their own? OH!!!! THATS WHAT THEY HAVE!!! How great is that working out? You don't seem to get the real problem here, its not the Mexican government, its the banks and this system of power created by america's fake capitalism. Just like in our own country, banks give money to politicians, politicians make the wrong laws. Even with this going on there are actual efforts to disband cartels, which is an actual war. But when one dies out, another pops up, because nothing you do will stop a trillion dollar industry. Not to mention our own CIA loves to little chess games down there that simply put new people in power in exchange for political support.

At what point will you realize that Mexico cannot solve this problem with America and international banks fueling a trillion dollar industry........ Are you unaware of this or do you simply not want to apply it and suggest that somehow Mexico can battle cartels that are literal armys,the CIA who is working against their best interests and the banks and politicians who are helping to fund it all.............. Really? Are you really trying to suggest that Mexico can fix this situation without the US DRAMATICALLY changing everything we do? Do you not get that its not even about the Cartels really, they are just the dirty work people, the front men causing horrific violence. This system is being created by our government and banks and as long as that exists, cartels doing this dirty work will always exist.

@ad1x2 said:

Sure, some people that are terrified of Trump are trying to get asylum in Canada, or in the case of some people in California, trying to get Calexit to happen, but fleeing the United States because of political differences isn't the same as fleeing because of crime or poverty.

Well lets see.... chances are if youre leaving the US its going to be for political reasons. Yes? So by definition this makes someone a political refugee. The poverty thing, i already addressed that above and yes there are hundreds of thousands of Americans doing this because of poverty in the US currently, and that number is rising by the year.

@ad1x2 said:

@LJS9502_basic: @kod: I know that blaming all of our problems on Trump makes people feel better because it gives them hope that when January 2021 gets here, the new Democratic president that they believe will defeat Trump (or Pence if he is impeached first) in a landslide would undo every wrong he did assuming that he didn't nuke anyone. I figure, whatever helps them sleep at night.

I will only blame Trump for the things he does or does not do and currently i only see one positive thing to Trump becoming president. And that is the fact that the TPP was dropped. However, i kind of suspect its because they know they can write something better with this moron in office. Instead of running with this idea that any criticism Trump receives is due to this imaginary situation you've created, maybe you should try to be objective? Maybe you should look at how Obama had immigration at a net zero and that simply with maintained efforts, it was not an issue? And that maybe this focus on legal programs and what should be, legal citizens, was entirely unneeded and maybe that effort could have gone to... oh i dont know........ rising wages? lowering education cost? Infrastructure? You know... one of the trillion problems we face that are actually real.

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Can't even handle a narco state.

That was the first thing that came to mind. I still thought it was funny but he should look at his own country for christ's sake.

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Poor guy

I guess having been a complete failure and the head of a 3rd world country who is more corrupt, poor and violent than even some African nations without any government at all. have hit him hard.

Maybe he should have spent some time trying to make Mexico at least a 2nd rate nation.

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@eliminatorpaige said:

If a US president did that you would all be calling for impeachment.

Fox was terrible for Mexico and has no right to take jabs at anybody.

this statement makes no sense.

why would a former president face impeachment?

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@Jacanuk said:

Poor guy

I guess having been a complete failure and the head of a 3rd world country who is more corrupt, poor and violent than even some African nations without any government at all. have hit him hard.

Maybe he should have spent some time trying to make Mexico at least a 2nd rate nation.

Don't get your panties in a twist........

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:

Poor guy

I guess having been a complete failure and the head of a 3rd world country who is more corrupt, poor and violent than even some African nations without any government at all. have hit him hard.

Maybe he should have spent some time trying to make Mexico at least a 2nd rate nation.

Don't get your panties in a twist........

You mean like the mexican president who clearly has lost all common sense and sense of duty towards his own country.

It´s not like Mexico became a highly developed country during his term.

Also it would be interesting to see how much he lined his own pockets while in office.... oh wait....

"A charismatic figure who electrified Mexico by ending 71 years of corrupt one-party rule at elections in 2000, Fox is now being investigated by a congressional commission after he opened up his renovated ranch in central Mexico to a glossy society magazine.

The San Cristobal ranch, where paint once peeled from the walls, now boasts expensive furniture, remodeled rooms, a swimming pool and immaculately kept grounds with peacocks and deer.

Fox, who left office last December, also came under fire after a newspaper reported that a businessman gave his wife a decked-out Jeep Wrangler as a gift early in his term.

Several newspapers later reported that Fox was driving an expensive Hummer vehicle not registered under his name and which had been “lent” for free by a car firm to the presidential guard.

In a well-publicized humiliation, Fox was last week forced to hand it back after President Felipe Calderon, his successor and former energy minister, ordered an end to such loan deals."

Fox firmly denies any wrongdoing but the revelations have caused a furor in a country where half the population lives on $2 a day or less and tarnished the reputation of a man who promised in 2000 to end the corruption that flowered during 71 years of rule by the Institutional Revolutionary Party

But hey at least he makes fun of Trump right?

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@Jacanuk: So the answer is yes.........you are triggered over any slight, joke, or negative said about trump. It's going to be a hard 3 years for you.

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@eliminatorpaige said:

@comp_atkins: US president, as in currently in office. Yeesh, wasn't that complicated. My comment made sense, not my fault you failed to understand it.

Fox does it then all is good, American then all hell breaks loose. Easier to grasp?

well, it that case it isn't a proper comparison really, fox is no longer in office.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: So the answer is yes.........you are triggered over any slight, joke, or negative said about trump. It's going to be a hard 3 years for you.

Triggered nah

Just find it comical you and your cohorts find support in a highly corrupt politician who couldn't give a shit about the environment or the people who elected him. In essence the same thing you accuse Trump for.

But i guess it's true what they say, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: So the answer is yes.........you are triggered over any slight, joke, or negative said about trump. It's going to be a hard 3 years for you.

Triggered nah

Just find it comical you and your cohorts find support in a highly corrupt politician who couldn't give a shit about the environment or the people who elected him. In essence the same thing you accuse Trump for.

But i guess it's true what they say, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Yes triggered you are. I didn't and don't have to live under that man so his presidency didn't affect me and I'm not going to cry about him like you are. Trump on the other does affect me as I live in the US.