Gallup survey finds 52% support for Impeachment AND Removal.

Gallup survey finds 52% support for impeachment and Removal

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/impeachment-poll-gallup-donald-trump/index.html

Washington (CNN)A majority of US adults support the impeachment and removal of President Donald Trump from office, a Gallup poll released Wednesday finds, continuing a trend of recent surveys that have found increased support for the Democratic-led effort.

Fifty-two percent of Americans support impeaching and removing Trump from office, while 46% disagree. That's a 7-point increase from when Gallup asked the question in June about impeachment and removal after former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

For context this is significantly higher than when Nixon's impeachment inquiry started. Also:

The level of support for Trump's impeachment is much higher than it ever was for former President Bill Clinton and above that for former President Richard Nixon in all but a final poll taken before the 37th president's resignation, according to the Gallup survey.

Only once has Gallup seen more support for removing a president. Nixon was gone four days later.

The reason for this, IMO: The massive amount of evidence.

Wow 52%

Ok, I am convinced now Zaryia, let's get rid of the justice system and judges and just have polls dictate how we convict people because if a poll says something it must be true.

Wow indeed:

The level of support for Trump's impeachment is much higher than it ever was for former President Bill Clinton and above that for former President Richard Nixon in all but a final poll taken before the 37th president's resignation, according to the Gallup survey.

Bad faith straw-man.

Hey, you don´t have to convince me anymore

If a poll has 52% who think Trump is guilty then let´s forget about wasting time with a trial, let´s just remove him. It will also save up a lot of resources "wasted" on the court and prison system.

With the latest coup attempt discussed as an impeachment inquiry with the media help it is a wonder the polls are that low. What is currently being conducted in Washington DC is what goes on in all Communist and third world countries. It is being done in secret in the whit the rights of the President being violated as well the Constitution. The Democrats are willing to destroy the country for power. The Democrat party should officially change their name to more represent who they really are The Socialists' Democrat Party.

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just posting data. Your opinion is as irrelevant.

I never said any of that. Why are all of your posts in such bad faith? This is all gibberish and nonsense and I'll continue to cross it out.

This isn't low. This is higher than most points during Nixon's inquiry. This isn't a coup, by definition. It is purely legal.

It is 100% constitutional, and there is clear proof of him doing what they claim they are impeaching him over. Please do not lie.

If you disagree provide citation of your wild claims.

That's funny because it's usually the GOP in which the country gets destroyed. The economy and HDI at least.

Anyway, most people disagree with you. The evidence is very clear as to why he is being lawfully impeached. By the way, Democratic Socialism =/= Socialism.

He's not a competent president. He needs to go.

If everyone´s but your opinion is irrelevant, what are you doing on a debate forum?

But again congrats now 52% it´s amazing and now Trump can finally go right?

You have not given your opinion. You are just spamming snarky straw-man posts.

A majority of Americans want Donald Trump impeached and removed. I do not have to convince you for that to be true.

No, he can't just finally go because most Americans want him gone. That isn't how it works.

Do you know anything about politics?

Ok, so here we are back at the core, you claim because 52% of Americans want him gone, he now has to go.

Or as your next comment state, he can´t go because most Americans want him gone? and politics? do you mean that is not how the justice system works?

Which makes your thread pretty pointless since who cares what most Americans think, what matters is actual evidence and so far there has not been any.

That was never my claim. I never said anything like this, same goes for your last 3 posts.

What's with all the rotten bad faith nonsense from you lately? It's actually quite disgusting.

That's your opinion. I think public opinion is very intriguing and important. It's good to know what most of the country thinks. Politicians also care about polls, hence internal polling.

Objectively false and a flat out lie. But keep that losing debate in the impeachment thread.

OK, what was the purpose of posting this then? was it to confirm your own hate of Trump or ?

Yes, that is my opinion and also that of any sane American who value the justice system, it´s not intriguing what a poll says, what is interesting is what evidence there is and not ambiguous statements and transcripts which can be read according to what your political side is.

And the last bit, again no actual ironclad evidence has come forward, again as I said above its circumstantial evidence. And i hopefully don´t have to explain to you how high a burden the defence has to meet, before Trump is found guilty.

Denial is one hell of a drug.

The evidence is there and the majority of Americans who do value the justice system want him gone.

The minority of Americans, including you, don't care about democratic values, nor about justice. You just want to get back at those liberals because they hurt your feelings, snowflake.

Trumpettes are such a joke, it's not even funny.

Are we supposed to serve fries with this trolling?

I literally answered this in my last post. C'mon man:

I think public opinion is very intriguing and important. It's good to know what most of the country thinks. Politicians also care about polls, hence internal polling.

Also it's simply political news. What's the issue? I'll post all the accurate polls I want.

This is an argument you fictionally created to debate yourself ITT.

No one is saying we should use polls to pass legal judgement. Your opinion is completely based off of a straw-man argument that was never brought up by anyone but you.

I'm just stating most Americans want Trump removed and impeached. Just a fact based off of the results of these polls.

• The 4 corroborating sworn testimonies are not ambiguous. They directly state what Trump did and corroborate the CREDIBLE WB Report.
• The text messages are not ambiguous. They directly state the Diplomats saying it was bad.
• The transcript is not ambiguous. Trump asks for aid with Biden.

There literally is evidence. To say otherwise is to lie. This is a fact.

There is evidence.

Ok, then again you should look up justice and our legal system because you do not convict anyone in America based on public opinion nor should a senate.

Political news? not really. Political news would be some credible actual unambiguous evidence.

And if most Americans want him gone, then wait for 2020 and go vote, we are litterally a few months away.

Public opinion is very intriguing and important. It's good to know what most of the country thinks. Politicians also care about polls, hence internal polling.

• The 4 corroborating sworn testimonies are not ambiguous. They directly state what Trump did and corroborate the CREDIBLE WB Report.
• The text messages are not ambiguous. They directly state the Diplomats saying it was bad.
• The transcript is not ambiguous. Trump asks for aid with Biden.

There literally is evidence. To say otherwise is to lie. This is a fact.

There is evidence.

Public opinion is not interesting when we are talking about someone´s life here and justice. All that matters is evidence and that they get a fair trial.

As to your so-called evidence, First of all, the 4 does not equal to actual evidence, they are also not based on actual first-hand knowledge, 2 are based on second hand, and one is I assume you mean the call log which is highly ambiguous and does not actually state anything.

The text message is again in the same area, it´s ambiguous and does not equal actual ironclad evidence, it´s interpreted based on where your political affiliation is.

The transcript does not actually confirm anything, again you are reading what you want because you want it to be a certain way.

So no there is not any actual evidence, it´s circumstantial and any two-bit lawyer would get his client of.

Seems like an unsafe level of support for impeachment if you're Donald Trump. It also seems like not enough support for Republicans in the senate to get on board.

Voting Trump out of office in 2020 and leave it at that is the cheap way out.

Kinda, yeah, but that's almost certainly what it's going to come down to thanks to Mitch McConnell and cronies.

FOR THE FIFTH TIME, NO ONE SAID THIS YOU MADE THIS DEBATE UP.

All I was doing is posting public sentiment.

This literally is political news. I posted it because I saw it on a political news site, up near the top.

Facts > Feelings. There literally is evidence.

You can lie all you want man. It doesn't change the facts.

Yes, remove that stank already.

I also happen to agree with a majority of Americans.

However the GOP Cult Senate will likely not care. Hell Linsay Graham already sent Pelosi a letter saying they will not vote to remove him......without all the evidence even being collected yet lmao.

Whoops,

Mulvaney ties withheld Ukraine aid to political probe sought by Trump

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/466193-gop-senators-worry-planned-graham-letter-to-pelosi-could-raise-questions

Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney indicated Thursday that the Trump administration held up military aid to Ukraine in part because officials wanted Kiev to investigate unproven election interference allegations linking the country to a Democratic National Committee (DNC) server.

“The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the things that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate,” Mulvaney told reporters at the White House Thursday.

Considering the daily flood of damning info....no wonder these poll numbers keep going up and up.

@Serraph105: Kinda? Trump is a symptom, if he gets away with it, someone else will outdo him in time, fully knowing that GOP will support them enough to get away with it.

A perhaps unintended side effect of gerrymandering, it allows rather extreme views and positions to be normalized, to be held by elected officials and pull the field in heavily in one direction.

Impeach him, remove him from office, and prosecute him on criminal charges.

Realistically, I expect the first to happen. I don't expect the second to happen, if ever. And I think there's a decent chance of the third happening once he's out of office.

Lindsey Graham, that guy that was dissed by trump at least tens of time by trump. He was also dissed by trump recently and he was the most vocal against the syria withdrawal and still he supports him? Wow, he is such a major cuck to trump and he is going to be known as a cuck to trump for rest of hi life.

I don't think impeachment is generally taken lightly, even by the most casual of Americans. 52% is shockingly high; this isn't an election, this isn't "my side lost and now I'm sad and bitter" Trump has been president for years if this was about sore losers they would have started to impeach him a long time ago. This is about a prick that abuses his powers as president.

52% is really high. End of story.

I expect them to, if they do have something on him, convince him to step down and not run for a second term.

As good as it would feel to impeach him, remove him from office, and pursue criminal charges that would not be good for the country. The right would get further entrenched by taking on the mantle of victimhood, and the left would get even more pompous and self-righteous.

Gallup polls are some of the most inaccurate polls out there. Can't wait for you leftist to scream at the sky when Trump wins again. Not even a Trump fan, but he's 100% better than any of the Democrats that are running.

Is this like the 90% polls of Hillary winning the election?

You guys are such bad losers... It's been 3 years build a bridge already.

@mrbojangles25: I mean, it's not the first time we seen a President step down from office ya'know. But I do know it's not the same in Nixon's case, probably the best way to get Trump out of office is for someone and come in hard on the next election day.

@horgen: You know that I agree with you, but the reality is that impeachment in the house and zero conviction in the senate means that Trump won't suffer any consequences apart from a short time where legislation is unlikely to pass.

Trump would probably even be able to sell the lack of a senate impeachment as no impeachment and complete exoneration to his supporters.

The 2016 polls were correct. I don't understand why far right posters do not understand the difference between polls and EC predictions.

This has nothing to do with 3 year bridges. Most people want Trump impeached and removed because this ordeal is very problematic. He should not have asked for political aid from Ukraine.

1. Gallup is not one of the most inaccurate polls out there. I believe you just made that up on the spot:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

FOX poll has it at 51%/40% even IF you were right.

2. That is entirely your opinion and I completely disagree. Any of the Democrats running are 1000% better than Trump. Lmao what kind of dolt still denies climate change? Oh and ouch that Deficit. Rich Tax Cuts failed badly. Tariffs failed badly. Syria plan failed badly. Hopefully no Trump Global Recession soon. Probably why the top 3 Dems all beat him in head to head polls and why Trump is the only Pres to never go over 50% approval.

1. Is everyone who questions you "far right". Are you that insecure? Polls are constantly wrong.

2. "Most people" you mean people who said the "far right" who wouldn't accept a Hillary victory which polls said would be the case who have then proceeded to have a 3 year juvenile tantrum. You'd think after the 1000th failed attempt you would just work on getting elected next time.... but hey keep it up you're only making it worse.

All you had to do is not be insane and you couldn't do that.

3. OrAnGE mAn Bad... RuSsiA aSETT but Muh UkRainez... BuT MuhMuellerTImeZ... ImPeAACHESCEEEEETCH... LOok MY pInK TEa CozEE HaTz... DEr KaVanUGH.... DRooLZ... OrANge MaN Iz bad...

The 2016 Polls were correct. You are objectively wrong on this specific topic.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

National Polls are constantly correct, scroll down to any GE Average for RCP. This 52% is likely accurate.

No. By Most People I mean Most Americans, according to multiple polls including the one linked in the OP. Most people want Trump impeached and removed due to this Ukraine Scandal.

I'm not sure what is insane about the above fact. Do you dislike that most Americans want Donald J Trump impeached and removed?

I couldn't make this out. Would you like to post intelligently next time? Thank you.

I assumed you were somehow attempting to refute the ICIG, FEC Chair, confirmed texts, and multiple career diplomat sworn testimonies with......a meme. Not the best citation heh.

What a delusional world you live in. There is a term for your type. You are a "Bed Wetter". Is the Ukraine thing an issue as it hurts the "flexibility" Obama offered Russia?

Good luck on your guaranteed failed impeachment attempt Bed Wetter.

Well forgoing the FEC Chair, the ICIG, the sworn corroborating testimonies of 4 career diplomats, literal text messages, and a literal transcript, are you suggesting 52% of Americans are delusional?

Bold claim. Citation? (I suspect none will be provided).

Impeachment is highly likely given the evidence.

Now you're going to pretend you know what you're talking about after you see this post and say you meant Senate conviction, and not House Impeachment. It's okay, I'll understand, a lot of Trump fans are new to politics.

P.S. Thanks for dropping the polling lie.

Delusional. Change your sheets. 3 years of whinging, whining and non-events.... For someone "in the know" about politics how do you fail every... single.... time....

Were you referring to your polling lie?

Failure Attempt #30,565 incoming. Good luck bed wetter.... This time for sure LOL

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Such a waste of time and effort. Just live your life. Trump is your president...deal.

In the last Three years the two biggest things I was concerned about was (and is) Russian Interference and Climate Change.

Both things I was objectively correct about and are no longer even debated. I'm not seeing the "failure".

By the ways why are we so off-topic right now? Oh right, you moved the goal post after losing the initial argument on polling data. You were incorrect about 2016 polling, and then you stated Trump will not be impeached - I assume you do not know how impeachment works and meant the Senate vote.

What polling lie? Citation?

I don't believe I was incorrect about anything in prior situation. Much less "35,535" times. Citation? Can you back this claim up? You seem to just kinda be spit-balling random memes right now. Do I know you?

P.S. So I assume you have no citation of this Ukraine matter being false or the 52% being "delusional"? Didn't think you would provide such data. You appear to me making rather absurd claims with no proof.

The climate has always changed and nothing you do will stop that. You are an inconsequential microbe in a much larger system and no amount of taxes or social change and wealth re-distribution will fix that. Russian interference is disproven otherwise you would have him..... but your delusional so you will never get that.

As stated 52% of opinion means absolutely nothing when there is zero evidence. You guys have nothing, like every other attempt. But because you're delusional and full of hatred you actually believe you have something. You don't... again.

It's hilarious you even utter the word "fact" or "truth". You are truly a tin foil hatter.

Fakeboy troll account confirmed.

Is it a simple majority needed in the senate or more?

@zaryia said:

Fakeboy troll account confirmed.

@mypetmonkey said:

The climate has always changed and nothing you do will stop that. You are an inconsequential microbe in a much larger system

@mypetmonkey said:

Russian interference is disproven

@mypetmonkey said: when there is zero evidence. You guys have nothing, like every other attempt. But because you're delusional and full of hatred you actually believe you have something. You don't... again.

lol

@zaryia said: "Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian Hacker Bot... Because I Zaryia am the definitive source of all that is true and virtuous. This 2nd hand account heard from a 3rd hand account of a cleaner who wasn't there but might have heard it and they looked kinda Russian will definitely ImpEESCREEEEEETCH Trump for sure this time. We have no evidence but 52% feel he should be impeached but not actually why... russia or sumfin will do. But if we steal... i mean tax peoples money and invent this imaginary thing called Carbon Credits the world will remain sunny 82 degrees with rain every 2nd day. I will now resort to posting GIFs and calling everyone who doesn't fall into line with my bed wetting world view far right."

Gordon Sondland testified under oath, that Rudy Guliani was working with the Ukranian Government under Trumps order.

Trumps Chief of Staff admitted today that Trump intentionally Withheld Military Aid, unless Ukraine agreed to help dig up dirt on the Bidens. He also said that Trump has worked with Foreign governments to influence our elections, and will continue to do so.

Rick Perry, who along with Sondland is part of the trio known as the Ukranian "Three Amigos", resigned from his office.

All of this happened TODAY.

But it's a nothingburger......

Imagine thinking the CIA, DHS, NSA, FBI, DOJ, SIC, and HIC are all wrong and Russia did not interefer.

In 2019.

lol.

@mypetmonkey

We have no evidence

Please do not lie on this site. There is a reason it is at 52%:

Overwhelming Confirmation of Whistleblower Complaint: An Annotation

https://www.justsecurity.org/66475/ukraine-ukrainegate-overwhelming-confirmation-of-whistleblower-complaint-an-annotation/

TEXT MESSAGES SHOW THE TRUMP-ZELENSKY CALL HAD JUST ONE GOAL — AND IT WAS ANYTHING BUT ROUTINE

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/04/trump-ukraine-call/

White House admits lawyers hid transcript of damning Trump call in top-secret server

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-transcript-server-white-house-20190927-ngc5j2khcvf75m73k4kcaha534-story.html

'All the Way Up to POTUS': Ousted Ambassador to Ukraine Names Trump in Testimony Over Smear Campaign Led by Giuliani

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/11/all-way-potus-ousted-ambassador-ukraine-names-trump-testimony-over-smear-campaign

Former White House official bolsters the Trump-Ukraine whistleblower’s allegations

https://www.vox.com/2019/10/15/20915579/trump-impeachment-ukraine-fiona-hill-whistleblower

'Very Damning': Sondland Testifies Trump Directed US Diplomats to Follow Giuliani's Lead in Ukraine

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/17/very-damning-sondland-testifies-trump-directed-us-diplomats-follow-giulianis-lead

Mulvaney Says Holdup of Ukraine Aid Was Tied to Trump’s Demand for DNC Server

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mulvaney-says-holdup-of-ukraine-aid-was-related-to-trumps-demand-for-2016-election-probe-11571338443

You are an absolute joke and embarrassment

Imagine all that "fact" and yet he's still your President...... in 2019 and probably 2020.

lol

You're going to need more tin foil for a bigger hat son.

That matter not to his base. Maybe the see themselves in his incompetency. Nonetheless at this point he should have no support. Country over party not the reverse.