In phone call, Trump begged Georgia Secretary of State to "find" 11, 780 votes to overturn the election

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#1  Edited By Serraph105
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You can hear Trump act like a total bitch for yourself in the link below. He seriously alternates between demanding, threatening, and straight up begging that Republican Brad Raffensperger "find enough votes" to overturn the presidential election outcome.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

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#2 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Only a great leader would try to subvert election results. That's how you drain the swamp!

This is just astounding tbh.

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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I blame the Republican party for allowing this. That also should be criminal charges.

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@LJS9502_basic: Allowing it? They're taking part in it.

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#5 Baconstrip78
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I voted Romney in 2012, but I’ll never vote GOP again, ever. These last two months have exposed a large enough portion of the GOP as tinpot authoritarians, and auto-voting Democrat is now necessary just to protect democracy for our kids...policy is meaningless with those stakes.

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#6 Zaryia
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Is any of that illegal? Sounds like extortion at some point.

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#7 LJS9502_basic
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@zaryia said:

Is any of that illegal? Sounds like extortion at some point.

Federal and Georgia statutes say it can be, yes.

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@Baconstrip78 said:

I voted Romney in 2012, but I’ll never vote GOP again, ever. These last two months have exposed a large enough portion of the GOP as tinpot authoritarians, and auto-voting Democrat is now necessary just to protect democracy for our kids...policy is meaningless with those stakes.

so am not the only one that spotted this

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#9  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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We all know nothing will happen to Trump because money talks and bullshit walks.

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#10  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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The Qanon followers are going to be so disappointed on Jan. 6th.

"Trust the plan" said some LARPer to the boomers on some imageboard.

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#11 nepu7supastar7
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@Serraph105:

He basically committed election fraud by intimidating and threatening an official to find election fraud. If irony were pudding, Trump would be swimming in a pool of it. 😑 They should just remove him before he tries to start a war.

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#12 LJS9502_basic
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@Serraph105:

He basically committed election fraud by intimidating and threatening an official to find election fraud. If irony were pudding, Trump would be swimming in a pool of it. 😑 They should just remove him before he tries to start a war.

If he starts one it will be domestic.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

The Qanon followers are going to be so disappointed on Jan. 6th.

They'll never admit it. They'll just say "wait until you see what happens on January 20th."

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@Planeforger:

You kidding? I think QAnon are dumb enough to believe that even after Biden is sworn in and officially takes office, Trump is somehow secretly running the country from behind the scenes. They genuinely think he's Jesus!

If such a conspiracy holds them off from trying to kill innocent people, then let them believe it.

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#15  Edited By comp_atkins
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jesus what a fucking sore loser.

listening to call. trump is basically your idiot uncle on fb who believes all the bullshit he reads and will not listen to anyone telling him he's just wrong.

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I don’t what’s worse, this or that his supporters are making excuses for him.

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There's a huge portion of America that proved to be OK with whatever their president does as long as he's a fascist. This situation is bad because it actually documents him using his position to try to subvert an election but Perdue is right in the sense that he's trying to do this since day one, well actually since before he was first elected, and no one really cares.

They treat him like he's a mentally challenged president, which is the whole reason why he avoided impeachment on the basis of a "he didn't knew better" and now again he's caught on tape doing the same shit but way way worst and nothing will happen again.

Trump is the Kenneth Copeland type. Someone anyone outside the cult sees how corrupt he is and as close to the word of Christ as Trump is from draining the swamp but incredibly charismatic to idiots.

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#19  Edited By lamprey263
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This should be the moment GOP voters realize they are all burning in hell.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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@lamprey263 said:

This should be the moment GOP voters realize they are all burning in hell.

They think he did no wrong. I'm more concerned about the elected congress fighting the election. They are all traitors.

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#22  Edited By comp_atkins
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@girlusocrazy said:

"All we're looking for is 11,780 votes" - he acknowledges the official count and simply wants it turned over

2,473,633 − 2,461,854 = 11,779

It's completely blatant and indefensible.

take a listen to the call. i think he's been spending the past few weeks absorbing all the conspiracy theories on the internet. he legitimately believes that he won the state by hundreds of thousands of votes, so to adjust the count by 11,780 is no big deal.

he ranted for like 5 minutes about ruby freeman "she's all over the internet! well known crook and fraudster!"

insane. not to mention that he may have broken georgia law by soliciting election fraud...

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@zaryia said:

Is any of that illegal? Sounds like extortion at some point.

This is what Trump is. We had a literal mobster voted in as president. Where lawyers won't work, direct intimidation comes in. You can't be a real estate mogul in New York without using mob tactics to get a foothold.

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That's a very good point.

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#25  Edited By lamprey263
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I am surprised none of these TV pundits have scrutinized his comment about how people moved out of state and voted, like it was laughable that anybody could manage to get out of that state and want to move back, like the state isn't worth moving back to...

https://youtu.be/AW_Bdf_jGaA - 28:30 to 29:00

...it's like Ron Burgundy saying "F*** you San Diego"

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#26 comp_atkins
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@lamprey263 said:

I am surprised none of these TV pundits have scrutinized his comment about how people moved out of state and voted, like it was laughable that anybody could manage to get out of that state and want to move back, like the state isn't worth moving back to...

https://youtu.be/AW_Bdf_jGaA - 28:30 to 29:00

...it's like Ron Burgundy saying "F*** you San Diego"

i think the problem the president doesn't seem to understand is the data that they're looking at to come to wild conclusions that he won the state by hundreds of thousands of votes is just wrong.

in some cases it's wrong out of sheer stupidity of believing the "trump media" ( a term trump actually used on the call ) and in others they're trying to use other publicly available information as a proxy for determining something and it is incorrect to do that.

garbage in, garbage out

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#27 Vaasman
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Impeachment 2: Election Fraudgaloo.

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@girlusocrazy: Sad thing is Perdue will most likely win. No Republican who backs Trump should hold office at this point.

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#29 horgen  Moderator
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Maybe USPS lost these hundreds of thousands of votes. Wasn't that the insecure way to vote? :P

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@yessir said:

@girlusocrazy: Sad thing is Perdue will most likely win. No Republican who backs Trump should hold office at this point.

I think both loeffler and perdue lose. There have been warning signs for awhile that republican voters are not really turning out for both runoff races.

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Election interference at it's best. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. The GOP is an existential threat to democracy in the US. They're autocrats in disguise. What Trump has done, and continues to do, would land anyone else in jail.

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@HoolaHoopMan: I'm old enough to remember when Republicans could at least pretend to not be authoritarians.

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#33  Edited By RatchetClank92
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Trump is a cuck

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#34 Serraph105
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@mattbbpl: like the better days of 2012, you know, sometimes.

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#35 mattbbpl
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@Serraph105: Ah, the good old days! Back when the party was crazy enough to intentionally harm tens of millions of Americans, but not crazy enough yet to steal an election they'd already lost.

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@super600: Hope you are right.

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#37 SheevPalpamemes
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This is all according to plan. This is why I don’t drink Root Beer.

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#38 sheep99
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Yeah i used to vote both ways democrat and republican i always like the idea of keeping it balanced but now since all this crap happened and how some not all of the Republican Party acted i will always vote Democrat how many people here will do the same

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@sheep99: I can't claim to be a convert, I've been in that camp since 2009. But yes, it's only gotten worse.

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Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

Election interference at it's best. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. The GOP is an existential threat to democracy in the US. They're autocrats in disguise. What Trump has done, and continues to do, would land anyone else in jail.

I'm wondering whether charges can be brought against him. Heard something about section 205? I hope they go after him hard post Jan 20th.

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@MirkoS77: Could. But it’s highly unlikely anything will stick.

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@ratchetclank92 said:

Trump is a cuck

It's funny how his supporters see him as some strong man lol the only thing strong about Trump are his diapers that are just as full of shit as he is.

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@xdude85 said:

Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

They are just waiting for instructions on how to respond to this.

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#45  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@nepu7supastar7 said:

@Serraph105:

He basically committed election fraud by intimidating and threatening an official to find election fraud. If irony were pudding, Trump would be swimming in a pool of it. 😑 They should just remove him before he tries to start a war.

If he starts one it will be domestic.

Yup... can't imagine the international reaction to a Trump caused American Civil War. China, Iran, Russia and North Korea would probably laugh. Hell, China and Russia would probably step in and "get involved" for their own wants out of America, while they conflict with both sides of a Conflicted America. Righties did want to hand over Portland, Oregon to the PRC after all.

"But the electoral college assures..." No it doesn't. If it did, America wouldn't be on the cusp of cracking as is.

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@rmpumper said:
@xdude85 said:

Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

They are just waiting for instructions on how to respond to this.

"Stand back and Stand by"

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@xdude85 said:

Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

nah. they're too far gone

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#48 LJS9502_basic
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@ogvampire said:
@xdude85 said:

Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

nah. they're too far gone

True but a lot of disappeared from here. Maybe they are embarrassed?

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@ogvampire said:
@xdude85 said:

Trump supporters nowhere to be found. Maybe they'll finally realize that they support a crypto-Nazi party.

nah. they're too far gone

True but a lot of disappeared from here. Maybe they are embarrassed?

nah. i think they just went to Parler, an echo chamber for Trump supporters where 'facts' and 'reality' don't exist