Leaked Supreme Court opinion shows conservative majority set to overturn Roe v Wade

Are you against the death penalty?

I am mostly against the death penalty, but it does depend on the case. I am against all forms of anti-vaxxing and earlier anti-masking. I am against abortion bans and restrictions, since they don't work and just result in more death. I am for the science on AGW and we need to start doing more.

So I am consistent across the board in less death. Republicans appear to be consistent across the board on more death.

I don't get the anti-vaxx/anti-masking crowd. Simple solution to save lives. Not that much of an inconvenience. The boosters were worse than the original shot in terms of feeling like crap for a few days. I heard moderna is worse for that though.

The left will kill babies and yet support killers not get what the juries recommend.

Taking a life is taking a life Jim. You can't have it both ways.

So if a fetus should have all the same rights as a born individual. Should pregnant women then go to jail? You are imprisoning an innocent by doing so.

Are you against the death penalty?

hell i know. never seems to back up anything with comments (user) makes.

Why do you ask?

“Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.”

-George Carlin

@zaryia: I'm curious why he's asking since I've expressed no personal opinion in this thread.

Man, this thread is still going.

Look, I usually stay out of the abortion threads because they get real shitty real quick, but I feel like someone needs to say this. Every side of this has a valid point. I'm decidedly pro-choice, but if you consider a fetus a life, or should be protected due to it's potential to become a life, I can repect that. It makes sense. I ultimately don't agree, but I understand why one would see it that way.

I think part of the reason this debate is so vitriolic, is that both sides of it have a solid point, and we don't like that. We want us to be the good guys, and them to be the bad guys. So we burry our misgivings and shout "mysoginist" or "baby killer" at the other guys. Black and white is more comfortable than shades of grey.

I don't know, there's my two cents. Y'all can get back to the dogpile.

There might be solid points on both sides... were abortion the only option to child birth. With dozens of other options, all of which are cheaper and safer, the hyper sensitive focus on abortion itself is looking for a non issue to be divisive over.

Is this seriously what passes as a valid question?

You know you're out of arguments, and out of semi-sane comments when you start comparing babies to Timothy McVeigh.

Ah yes the so called life club that picks and chooses.

Yeah, based on whether or not the individual murdered a bunch of people. Trying to draw parity between the two is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

So your basis of life is not really true. Got it.

This is the kind of crap being spread by the media. This Caroline Reilly person is a reporter for Rewire who has also been features in Washington Post, New York Times, Yahoo News, and Vanity fair. On top of the terrorist acts already being committed by the radicalized hate mobs. This is a blatant call for more violence. Yup, now we have some of these nutjobs throwing molotov cocktails at people who don't agree with them on the issue.

Yikes.

@eoten said:

This is the kind of crap being spread by the media. This Caroline Reilly person is a reporter for Rewire who has also been features in Washington Post, New York Times, Yahoo News, and Vanity fair. On top of the terrorist acts already being committed by the radicalized hate mobs. This is a blatant call for more violence. Yup, now we have some of these nutjobs throwing molotov cocktails at people who don't agree with them on the issue.

Pretty fascinating to see these folks be so upfront on social media. How do you think they feel when they're in a mob? I wonder how this summer is going to go.

Edit: she deleted her account. Lol!

Funny how they say bans don't work for guns, but someone they'll work for abortion.

Pro-rape baby AND Pro-rapist!!! Amazing combo coming from the conservative Taliban right...errr I mean GOP.

Imagine being so hoodwinked by a complete non issue that you convince yourself that if states did ban buying guns that it's somehow forcing people to not own them. As if there aren't DOZENS of safer, better, and more reliable options to acquire guns in the first place.

Congratulations, you guys are now not only the only party to revoke a constitutional right from the people of this nation, but also the people who are going to force 11 year old r*pe victims to bear uncle Bobby's r*pe baby.

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Yikes.

@eoten said:

This is the kind of crap being spread by the media. This Caroline Reilly person is a reporter for Rewire who has also been features in Washington Post, New York Times, Yahoo News, and Vanity fair. On top of the terrorist acts already being committed by the radicalized hate mobs. This is a blatant call for more violence. Yup, now we have some of these nutjobs throwing molotov cocktails at people who don't agree with them on the issue.

Pretty fascinating to see these folks be so upfront on social media. How do you think they feel when they're in a mob? I wonder how this summer is going to go.

Edit: she deleted her account. Lol!

It's amazing that she had to be the one to delete it, that Twitter is full of comments like that with bans rarely handed down. But say that a man is not a woman and you're done. That is a straight up call to kill people, and the only reason that account is gone is because she deleted it herself, no doubt after receiving backlash about it from other users.

The fucked up part? I bet all those blue checkmarks actually know it's illegal to protest at a courthouse or the home of a judge in an attempt to influence a decision.

The issues you people try to draw parity to just makes your position on things look that much more devoid of any kind of logic or common sense. First trying to draw parity between babies, and mass murders, now trying to draw parity between abortions and gun rights. Dude, get a fucking argument that actually makes some kind of sense.

Because the same logic would apply to you.

It's almost like one is a constitutional right and one isn't.

You may be the dumbest poster on these boards.

There is no contradiction in my opinions. Just yours.

If words don't have meanings, and there's no such thing as context, sure you're right.

Well you are making up arguments in your head.....

Whenever I call you out, you disappear. You never pointed out where I lied in the other thread.

Do you support abortion and are against the death penalty? It's a simple question you seem to dodge because it would make your whole point invalid.

As I expressed no opinion, you did not call me out. I called YOU out on your hypocrisy.

FYI I'm Catholic so figure it out.

That literally means nothing. Are you not able to answer a simple question?

Uh....both are constitutional rights.

Ah, the old "ANSWER MY POINTLESS QUESTION!" deflection. lol. It's like trying to teach algebra to a dog, @LJS9502_basic

After a baby is born, nobody(not even a parent) can be forced to donate blood, organs, etc. Why is it that we think can force a mother to do it before the baby is born? You don't have to like her decision, but it is hers to make.

Well if your posts do then yes.

Show me in the constitution where it gives the right to abortions please.

I'll be waiting.

Alright, you're a confirmed troll account. Got it.

Apparently he can't add 2 and 2. Also since I have expressed no personal opinions in this thread but have called out his hypocrisy, he wants to play games instead of admitting he's not pro life.

Of course. That's the whole point of the "Answer my question" and "You're just a troll" replies. Nonsense deflection.

Saying you're catholic really doesn't tell me much since most Catholics don't follow the religion to the T. I'm glad you're dodging the question and trolling though.

You made your opinion known ITT and I questioned your stance on the death penalty. Which is a valid question. And as expected you have a double standard. I have not engaged in my personal opinion toward either side. You tried to derail it by whataboutism. If I fascinate you so much then make a thread about me. THIS is not about me.

The logic goes both ways. This is just pure ghost-lighting/trolling here. Second thread where you can't back up what you're saying.

@Steppy_76 said:

After a baby is born, nobody(not even a parent) can be forced to donate blood, organs, etc. Why is it that we think can force a mother to do it before the baby is born? You don't have to like her decision, but it is hers to

make.

I don't get why people think Religion has to play a part in not liking abortion on an ethical level or supporting restrictions... especially in something like the the third trimester. You can be an full blown atheist and acknowledge a unborn baby is also a human deserving of human rights.

No. It doesn't go both ways. YOU MADE SPECIFIC STATEMENTS THAT I QUESTIONED.

You made specific statements towards me that I questioned back. That's how conversations/debates work.

What about the 2nd amendment...

What about the death penalty...

Lmao. No self awareness.

Both of which are on point. The 2nd Amendment is treated as it is because of SC decision. Not an inherent decision. Also when one is stating life matters they should not be hypocritical about it. But I doubt you can follow that train of thought so I'll leave you to you straw man attacks and gifs which are your stock in trade buddy.

such a cold mindset... what counts as "defective" a cleft lip? deaf in one ear? and at that point why... not legalize killing 8 month old babies.... if a life is only as valuable as the memories it has acquired its not like babies can talk or provide for themselves. Babies are legit the most vulnerable people in society. they are babies... Just because they are stupid and not able to take care of themselves doesn't mean we just can kill them off because they are an inconvenience. That's fucking crazy.

Its comments like this that make me actually want to support the super pro life people... and I'm more in the middle on this issue. If you are going to get an abortion, get it as soon as you find out your pregnant. These people that let it grow for 6+ months just to kill it are sick.