PA Lawmakers Debate Video Game 'Sin Tax'

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#1 nintendoboy16
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Updated: Pennsylvania legislators have once again introduced a bill to tax certain video games sold in the state.

House Bill No. 109 aims to impose a 10% tax on adult and mature-rated video games sold at retail in addition to any applicable state and local taxes. Money collected will go into a newly created Digital Protection for School Safety Account and be used to enhance safety measures in Pennsylvania school districts.

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

“Over the past few years, acts of violence in schools seem to be occurring more frequently and with more intensity,” he said in a September memo to his fellow House members. “From Colorado to Connecticut to most recently in Parkland, Florida, students have experienced unthinkable actions by peers in a place that should promote learning and enrichment, safety and protection. One factor that may be contributing to the rise in, and intensity of, school violence is the material kids see, and act out, in video games.”

Quinn also pointed to a recent National Center for Health Research article that stated “studies have shown that playing violent video games can increase aggressive thoughts, behaviors, and feelings in both the short-term and long-term. Violent video games can also desensitize people to seeing aggressive behavior and decrease prosocial behaviors such as helping another person and feeling empathy (the ability to understand others). The longer that individuals are exposed to violent video games, the more likely they are to have aggressive behaviors, thoughts, and feelings.”

Of course, Quinn’s memo conveniently leaves out another section of the same article that makes a distinction between aggression and violence, and notes that there’s no clear evidence to support the assumption that increased aggression results in more acts of lethal violence or criminal behavior.

“It is important to keep in mind that violent video game exposure is only one risk factor of aggressive behavior,” the article said. “For example, mental illness, adverse environments, and access to guns are all risk factors of aggression and violence.”

House Bill No. 109 has been referred to the PA House of Representatives Finance Committee. The Entertainment Software Association, which represents a number of video game publishers, called it “a violation of the U.S. Constitution” in a statement provided to Variety on Tuesday.

“The U.S. Supreme Court made clear in Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association & Entertainment Software Association that video games are entitled to the full protection of the Constitution, and that efforts, like Pennsylvania’s, to single out video games based on their content will be struck down,” the ESA said. “Numerous authorities — including scientists, medical professionals, government agencies, and the US Supreme Court — found that video games do not cause violence. We encourage Pennsylvania legislators to work with us to raise awareness about parental controls and the ESRB video game rating system, which are effective tools to ensure parents maintain control over the video games played in their home.”

Last week, Rep. Ryan Bizzarro (D-Erie) introduced House Resolution 66, which recognizes February as “Esports Month” in Pennsylvania. The PA House of Representatives unanimously adopted it. The PA Esports Coalition now plans to hold its first annual Esports Day at the Pennsylvania Capitol on Wednesday, Feb. 6. The event seeks to raise awareness and highlight the benefits that esports can bring to the Commonwealth. There’s no word on whether or not Rep. Quinn plans to attend

My god... pretty dumb in Pennsylvania.

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House Bill No. 109 aims to impose a 10% tax on adult and mature-rated video games sold at retail in addition to any applicable state and local taxes. Money collected will go into a newly created Digital Protection for School Safety Account and be used to enhance safety measures in Pennsylvania school districts.

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

Last week, Rep. Ryan Bizzarro (D) introduced House Resolution 66, which recognizes February as “Esports Month” in Pennsylvania.

The contrast is real. Out. Of. Touch.

Lmao Blackhairedhero was trying to tell me both sides were equal in their Anti-Gaming bullshit.

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#3  Edited By KungfuKitten
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So... more thought control. Is it really so easy to forget how important it is that people can think and speak freely?

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I'm totally OK with this on the condition we add a 500% tax to any firearm purchase, trade, or other exchange. Because that would be just as idiotic.

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#6  Edited By Solaryellow
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Chris Quinn should have actual pressing matters on his plate, based on his area, rather than video games.

If video games are causing school violence, what about a tax on rated R movies?

His plan will cost a minimum of 16% on each game. Good luck Chumley.

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So.. Order more games at Amazon instead and avoid the tax?

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#8  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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@zaryia said:

House Bill No. 109 aims to impose a 10% tax on adult and mature-rated video games sold at retail in addition to any applicable state and local taxes. Money collected will go into a newly created Digital Protection for School Safety Account and be used to enhance safety measures in Pennsylvania school districts.

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

Last week, Rep. Ryan Bizzarro (D) introduced House Resolution 66, which recognizes February as “Esports Month” in Pennsylvania.

The contrast is real. Out. Of. Touch.

Lmao Blackhairedhero was trying to tell me both sides were equal in their Anti-Gaming bullshit.

In the past, dems were far worse

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/24/anti-violent-games-senator-leland-yee-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/

https://www.inverse.com/article/16201-hillary-clinton-s-old-war-on-video-games-resurfaces-with-this-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxVLwm0wNC0 (why Gore chose this idiot as VP is beyond me)

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@vl4d_l3nin: "In the past"

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“It is important to keep in mind that violent video game exposure is only one risk factor of aggressive behavior,” the article said. “For example, mental illness, adverse environments, and access to guns are all risk factors of aggression and violence.”

Fairly certain that adverse environment, mental illness and access to guns tend to contribute more to shootings.

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@horgen said:

So.. Order more games at Amazon instead and avoid the tax?

Buy it from a private seller or one not charging tax. Still though, if this gets taxed why not other forms of violent entertainment?

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#12  Edited By Zaryia
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@vl4d_l3nin said:
@zaryia said:

House Bill No. 109 aims to impose a 10% tax on adult and mature-rated video games sold at retail in addition to any applicable state and local taxes. Money collected will go into a newly created Digital Protection for School Safety Account and be used to enhance safety measures in Pennsylvania school districts.

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

Last week, Rep. Ryan Bizzarro (D) introduced House Resolution 66, which recognizes February as “Esports Month” in Pennsylvania.

The contrast is real. Out. Of. Touch.

Lmao Blackhairedhero was trying to tell me both sides were equal in their Anti-Gaming bullshit.

In the past, dems were far worse

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/24/anti-violent-games-senator-leland-yee-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/

https://www.inverse.com/article/16201-hillary-clinton-s-old-war-on-video-games-resurfaces-with-this-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxVLwm0wNC0 (why Gore chose this idiot as VP is beyond me)

Good thing my DeLorean is out of commission. Both were pretty bad, but (R) seems most out of touch today.

Hell even Trump's White House is anti-video game,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o36-byW6ZTo

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@zaryia said:
@vl4d_l3nin said:
@zaryia said:

House Bill No. 109 aims to impose a 10% tax on adult and mature-rated video games sold at retail in addition to any applicable state and local taxes. Money collected will go into a newly created Digital Protection for School Safety Account and be used to enhance safety measures in Pennsylvania school districts.

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

Last week, Rep. Ryan Bizzarro (D) introduced House Resolution 66, which recognizes February as “Esports Month” in Pennsylvania.

The contrast is real. Out. Of. Touch.

Lmao Blackhairedhero was trying to tell me both sides were equal in their Anti-Gaming bullshit.

In the past, dems were far worse

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/24/anti-violent-games-senator-leland-yee-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison/

https://www.inverse.com/article/16201-hillary-clinton-s-old-war-on-video-games-resurfaces-with-this-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxVLwm0wNC0 (why Gore chose this idiot as VP is beyond me)

Good thing my DeLorean is out of commission. Both were pretty bad, but (R) seems most out of touch today.

Hell even Trump's White House is anti-video game,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o36-byW6ZTo

Everybody knows the democrats and republicans switched again. So it's the democrats doing it again.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

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My god... pretty dumb in Pennsylvania.

Correction..........Quinn, a Republican is pretty stupid.

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@Solaryellow said:
@horgen said:

So.. Order more games at Amazon instead and avoid the tax?

Buy it from a private seller or one not charging tax. Still though, if this gets taxed why not other forms of violent entertainment?

Because only video games are bad. I thought you knew that :P

Also doesn't seller (if a store) have to charge for tax?

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Ah, more scapegoating on violence in video games causing real world violence, even though it's already been proven false multiple times and in some cases suggested to actually REDUCE angry and/or violent behavior. And even though real life killers and criminals have gotten "inspiration" from pretty much everything, including books, television, music, the news, and well, you know, just LIFE IN GENERAL. But no, just blame video games because blaming people and adjusting laws is hard.

Because hey, who wants to ACTUALLY fix problems?

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School teachers would most likely would agree with this.

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Retail? Can they enforce this on digital sales? If not, it'll only kill retail stores and lose jobs.