Right Wing Watch Reaps What They Sow

Not only has YouTube shut down Right Wing Watch's channel, they've denied their appeal.

I did not see this coming from YouTube given the platform's history. Perhaps this is only temporary but it gives me hope when I see a cesspool get what they had coming; especially via unexpected means.

Now don't get me wrong, I think the best disinfectant is putting a spotlight on these cancerous sources (actual right wing extremists as well obviously) so people know to stay away, so I don't think outright banning any channel is a good move. That said, it's about time the "standards" of these platforms be upheld to all instead of just one side of the fence. Perhaps it means less hate being spewed and there can be more regular discourse.

I'd be interested to see what YouTube's actual reason was for this ban hammer instead of the speculation.

Who is Right Wing Watch, and why should it be on my radar?

@mattbbpl: Check Tim's video for full details but they're essentially a site that makes it a point to smear those that are conservative to make them look like an extremist and get them banned.

That's why this is steeped on irony.

Omer gosh they cancelling right wing watch!

Hopefully they get their channel back. I don’t agree with this move at all. All that channel did was expose right wing extremism. They just did this to pacify the right so they wouldn’t try to cancel them.

(I’ll get personally attacked for that because dissent isn’t allowed with some. Hive mind)

@thenation: No joke. The Left's "Borg-like" ideology is insane.

For those not knowing what the Borg are, it's a Star Trek reference. I highly recommend watching Next Gen as it's top notch. I believe it's available to those with Netflix and/or Hulu accounts.

@Telekill: Then it doesn't sound like much was lost and I'll continue to ignore them.

Not giving Tim Poo clicks sorry.

@Telekill: I know what the borg are, the rights blind support of Trump is disturbing. The left on the other hand is always hating on each other. I know that for a fact, I got attacked for suggesting the left should unite, not to mention they turned on Biden in like 2 months.

And I won’t give Tim any clicks.

@thenation: You're aware that Trump doesn't have anything to support at the moment right? Most of us know the guy was a crass wind bag that rubbed many the wrong way.

A shame you won't hear what Tim P has to say though. He makes quite a bit of sense on many topics.

@Telekill: Oh really? Seems those people that show up to his rallies and the Republicans that pander to him seem to think otherwise.

I have seen his videos before. I’ll listen to anybody as long as they say it respectfully. I just don’t agree with him so I chose to not watch him. I don’t care if you do, your right.

Meh, those guys polluted the political discourse just as badly as the ilk of Trump, Tim Pool and the others.

It's back: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/youtube-reinstates-channel-devoted-exposing-conservative-extremism-rcna1286

lol

@br0kenrabbit: Well it's back. Even then this hopefully debunks the myth that YouTube only targets right wingers. Even though most people have known this for a looong time.

Bah, who am I kidding? Persecution complex is what the worst operate on.

Don't know the site and I don't care.

@br0kenrabbit: That channel hasn’t even made a video in 2 months and struggles to get 3k views. Glad it’s back, but really. Seems the OP is just cherry-picking random and unimportant BS stories to complain about.

@thenation: This thread is a testament to the fact that, while the left can actually take actually relevant political leaders on the right and pick them apart. The Trumpists here pretty much have to pick the most obscure and insignificant to make their stories. Whether it is a washed out singer or this...

I also like how no one on the left even tried to derail this topic. No whataboutisms in sight.

Overall, this is a nothingburger.

Lefty checkmarks are having a heyday on Twitter over this, but that is one of the biggest echo chambers on the net.

I don't think RWW is necessarily "smear merchants". Sure they selectively edit, but so does Project Veritas, so it's only consistent they were booted off of YT considering Project Veritas was as well.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they had their termination reversed.

yeap. i will give them some onions

What's with these shady ass sources and non-stories. THIS is what you call a "slow news day".

Also lol Tim Bald.

who wing what?

More right wing whining. Tim Pool is your standard bottom barrel right wing media host. If you think he's making sense you're suffering from one hell of a case of confirmation bias.

@Telekill: "No joke. The Left's "Borg-like" ideology is insane."

Wait, youtube shut down this channel, correct? Is youtube, a site with many right wing channels and personalities on it, the left? Because they're doing an absolute terrible job of being the left in that case.

No way in hell am I clicking on that video and having Neo-Nazi shit show up in my recommendation feed.

@girlusocrazy said:

Hahahhaha oh god, that one hurts. Too close to home.

Lmao.

This happened to Thunderf00t's YouTube channel, and it's mainly because he'd call out the people pushing Covid misinformation. He thinks when the videos he'd be criticizing got banned, that his videos would get flagged for using footage from the banned videos, then some internal AI designed to determine re-posting flagged videos then banned his. Eventually YouTube reversed this after several embarrassing videos of their inept support back-and-forwards were made, and some press started contacting YouTube / Googke's PR people for comment about the story, but that should not be how these issues are solved ever.

But this itself isn't the problem IMO. It goes beyond politics really and is mainly just a problem with YouTube that content creators have complained about for years. And that's when they have problems it's utterly impossible to talk to a human being. And if they do, support doesn't look at the original complaint, look at the substance of a video, make a determination on the merits of a content creators appeal, it's like dealing with a brick wall.

This is mainly why I will never use paid services on any of Google, Google Play, YouTube, because if I ever have an account issue, if I ever have a contested charge, if I ever have anything wrong I need some support to contact, they're not there. I had an issue months back where I was unable to view age restricted videos despite all my settings being correct and it's just a random glitch that when it kicks in there is no hope, just make a new account, has been plaguing users of years. You can't report it to Google or YouTube staff. You can only go to user forums that are self moderated and that's it, not outreach to an actual employee, not even just to ask to fix the problem, so they can even know it is a problem and do anything about it. Glad the only thing at most I have done is trial YouTube Red or whatever to watch Cobra Kai and that's it. Glad I never bought a bunch of movies on there only to be locked out of my own purchases.

I am not 100% clear about flags, I have uploaded game footage with licensed music and my videos didn't get removed, just said any monetization off that video would go toward original rights holder. I am fine with that. I heard that the marks on the account come from dragging out losing appeals. So getting videos struck down might not always be a bad mark but if you have a bunch and you keep appealing them in bulk I can see it leading to a suspension.

Also, in our politically charged climate it wouldn't surprise me if some right wing group issued DMCA takedown to shut channel down,, something Thunderf00t is also very familiar with. It can lead to legal consequences against the people claiming to have intellectual ownership of content they don't actually own. So, this might not be end of story, but it really depends on what the details are.

Since I used to watch lots of gaming videos, the YT algorithm would queue up that Milo nazi and I'd pass out watching some YT gamer and wake up to find out it played a dozen Milo videos... and each time it happened it just got worse, ugh, finally it just stopped thank god