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Goes to show just how petty this administration and his minions are.

FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired a little more than 24 hours before he could retire

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe believes that this is done to discredit him as a potential witness in the Mueller investigation, the Trump choir claims he's a deep-state operative out to sabotage the POTUS.

Who you believe, the draft dodging serial sexual assaulter megalomaniac who screws over everyone around him or the person that devoted the last 22 years of his life to public service?

I mean, it's clearly a vindictive move, the man was set to retire on Sunday, this move threatens his pention. He wasn't provided evidence to reasons behind his firing until two days before this happened, goes to show that there was no due process in the is matter.

With Trump cleaning house, I've no doubt AG Sessions was compelled to do Trump's bidding by firing McCabe. I have no doubt he will make further moves to force the Mueller probe be shut down, or to compel those he has power over to shut it down.

This is not the behavior of an innocent man, stop fooling yourselves if you think otherwise.

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The Trump administration is the shadiest of shady US administrations.

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now he can go to muller, sessions better becareful he maybe next

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@lamprey263 said:

Goes to show just how petty this administration and his minions are.

FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired a little more than 24 hours before he could retire

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe believes that this is done to discredit him as a potential witness in the Mueller investigation, the Trump choir claims he's a deep-state operative out to sabotage the POTUS.

Who you believe, the draft dodging serial sexual assaulter megalomaniac who screws over everyone around him or the person that devoted the last 22 years of his life to public service?

I mean, it's clearly a vindictive move, the man was set to retire on Sunday, this move threatens his pention. He wasn't provided evidence to reasons behind his firing until two days before this happened, goes to show that there was no due process in the is matter.

With Trump cleaning house, I've no doubt AG Sessions was compelled to do Trump's bidding by firing McCabe. I have no doubt he will make further moves to force the Mueller probe be shut down, or to compel those he has power over to shut it down.

This is not the behavior of an innocent man, stop fooling yourselves if you think otherwise.

Due process is for a court not in regards to a firing. Also if the allegations are true McCabe should have been fired a long time ago.

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A real dick move.

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#7  Edited By RedEyedMonster8
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@Jacanuk said:
@lamprey263 said:

Goes to show just how petty this administration and his minions are.

FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired a little more than 24 hours before he could retire

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe believes that this is done to discredit him as a potential witness in the Mueller investigation, the Trump choir claims he's a deep-state operative out to sabotage the POTUS.

Who you believe, the draft dodging serial sexual assaulter megalomaniac who screws over everyone around him or the person that devoted the last 22 years of his life to public service?

I mean, it's clearly a vindictive move, the man was set to retire on Sunday, this move threatens his pention. He wasn't provided evidence to reasons behind his firing until two days before this happened, goes to show that there was no due process in the is matter.

With Trump cleaning house, I've no doubt AG Sessions was compelled to do Trump's bidding by firing McCabe. I have no doubt he will make further moves to force the Mueller probe be shut down, or to compel those he has power over to shut it down.

This is not the behavior of an innocent man, stop fooling yourselves if you think otherwise.

Due process is for a court not in regards to a firing. Also if the allegations are true McCabe should have been fired a long time ago.

You really see nothing with firing him a little more than 24 hours before retirement?

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Can't find any other way to look at this. Firing someone 2 days before their retirement it's meant to send a message; "If you don't fall in line we'll cut you down even when you think you've made it and are safe"

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The never-Trumpers were right. Trump does not care about midterms or optics or the opinions of moderate GOP voters. Donald is digging republicans a hole from which they will take decades to climb out of.

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Drain the swamp!

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It's like no one has ever told him about Richard Nixon

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@RedEyedMonster8 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@lamprey263 said:

Goes to show just how petty this administration and his minions are.

FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired a little more than 24 hours before he could retire

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe believes that this is done to discredit him as a potential witness in the Mueller investigation, the Trump choir claims he's a deep-state operative out to sabotage the POTUS.

Who you believe, the draft dodging serial sexual assaulter megalomaniac who screws over everyone around him or the person that devoted the last 22 years of his life to public service?

I mean, it's clearly a vindictive move, the man was set to retire on Sunday, this move threatens his pention. He wasn't provided evidence to reasons behind his firing until two days before this happened, goes to show that there was no due process in the is matter.

With Trump cleaning house, I've no doubt AG Sessions was compelled to do Trump's bidding by firing McCabe. I have no doubt he will make further moves to force the Mueller probe be shut down, or to compel those he has power over to shut it down.

This is not the behavior of an innocent man, stop fooling yourselves if you think otherwise.

Due process is for a court not in regards to a firing. Also if the allegations are true McCabe should have been fired a long time ago.

You really see nothing with firing him a little more than 24 hours before retirement?

Not really. If the allegations are true, then it´s a fitting end for a person like McCabe.

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Can't find any other way to look at this. Firing someone 2 days before their retirement it's meant to send a message; "If you don't fall in line we'll cut you down even when you think you've made it and are safe"

How be to be a dick towards someone when they think they are safe.

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How is this not witness tampering?

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Cowards, the lot of them

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"This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally," McCabe said. "It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work."

From former CIA director:

You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you

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@R3FURBISHED said:

Cowards, the lot of them

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"This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally," McCabe said. "It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work."

From former CIA director:

You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you

Cowards ? who?

And should we just be clear that he lied during an investigation and is not some innocent bystander?

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I don't believe anything out of trump or his minions and I've always felt it was wrong to fire someone close to retirement....unless they've committed a serious crime.

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Seems like McCabe will get his pension after all, maybe, Democratic lawmaker from Wisconsin is offering him a two-day temp job to get McCabe to where he needs to be to collect his full retirement.

Still, the more worrying issue is that Trump is obviously moving to squash the Mueller probe. Seems that Mueller asking for Trump organization files was too much for Trump to bare. I figure either Rosenstein will have to fire him or Sessions will have to fire Rosenstein, or Trump fires Sessions and they appoint a new AG who will fire Mueller without hesitation. Um, how is this not blatant obstruction?

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@LJS9502_basic said:

I don't believe anything out of trump or his minions and I've always felt it was wrong to fire someone close to retirement....unless they've committed a serious crime.

Lying during a formal investigation is a serious crime especially for someone as high up as McCabe

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We're going to get a good movie about this admin in ~15 years.

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@Jacanuk: But did he actually lie?

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@perfect_blue said:

@Jacanuk: But did he actually lie?

According to the reports Yes, he did lie.

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TC's avatar sums this situation quite well.

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How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

What investigation?

McCabe has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

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@Jacanuk: Why hasn’t he been charged if he lied?

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@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

What investigation?

McCabe has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

It doesn't matter if he does, it's about optics. It will be seen that way whether or not it even was, hence Trump is a moron.

Edit: But just to show you how wrong you are, here's a quote from Trump's lawyer calling for an end to Mueller probe while explicitly listing McCabe in it.

"I pray that Acting Attorney General Rosenstein will follow the brilliant and courageous example of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged Russia collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe's boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt dossier."

Trump sees the FBI as his enemy with this investigation, including McCade.

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

I don't believe anything out of trump or his minions and I've always felt it was wrong to fire someone close to retirement....unless they've committed a serious crime.

Lying during a formal investigation is a serious crime especially for someone as high up as McCabe

Has he been convicted of that?

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

It doesn't matter if he does, it's about optics. It will be seen that way whether or not it even was, hence Trump is a moron.

Edit: But just to show you how wrong you are, here's a quote from Trump's lawyer calling for an end to Mueller probe while explicitly listing McCabe in it.

"I pray that Acting Attorney General Rosenstein will follow the brilliant and courageous example of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged Russia collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe's boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt dossier."

Trump sees the FBI as his enemy with this investigation, including McCade.

Will this mean that Sessions is off the hook with Trump? A sacrifice has been made so maybe the orange god will spare him now.

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@Jacanuk: McCabe is a witness to James Comey's account that Trump asked him to pledge his loyalty to him and drop the (back then) Flynn investigation. Comey confided in a few others around the time that interaction that happened. This would have to do with the obstruction part of Mueller's probe.

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@korvus said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

It doesn't matter if he does, it's about optics. It will be seen that way whether or not it even was, hence Trump is a moron.

Edit: But just to show you how wrong you are, here's a quote from Trump's lawyer calling for an end to Mueller probe while explicitly listing McCabe in it.

"I pray that Acting Attorney General Rosenstein will follow the brilliant and courageous example of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged Russia collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe's boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt dossier."

Trump sees the FBI as his enemy with this investigation, including McCade.

Will this mean that Sessions is off the hook with Trump? A sacrifice has been made so maybe the orange god will spare him now.

Trump will never forgive Sessions for recusing himself. Trump is certainly dumb enough to fire Sessions, replace him with a new guy, and instruct him to fire Mueller.

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@HoolaHoopMan: I don't think it's just Sessions. Trump is too petty to forgive anyone.

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@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

What investigation?

McCabe has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

Tell that to Trump's people,

Trump's attorney John Dowd calls for end to Mueller probe, cites firing of McCabe

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@HoolaHoopMan: I don't think it's just Sessions. Trump is too petty to forgive anyone.

I agree. I believe he's an ego maniac and narcissist. He's more concerned with petty revenge than fixing problems and running a country. Trump represents the more repulsive side of human nature, and by extension, the US electorate.

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John Brennen, ex CIA director threw some serious shade at Trump today:

"When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

John Brennen, ex CIA director threw some serious shade at Trump today:

"When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you."

That's going to piss Trump off twice. Once when he reads it and all over again when someone explains to him what it means.

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@HoolaHoopMan: at least someone has the balls to tell Trump the truth while he’s surrounded by his gutless sycophants.

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#39  Edited By Jacanuk
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@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

What investigation?

McCabe has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

Tell that to Trump's people,

Trump's attorney John Dowd calls for end to Mueller probe, cites firing of McCabe

That guy is a dufus and gives lawyers everywhere a bad name,

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@perfect_blue said:

@Jacanuk: Why hasn’t he been charged if he lied?

Because it was enough that he first stepped down and later fired.

Also, he even admits it himself

"He insisted he had done nothing wrong in organising the October 2016 interview, saying "it was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week". He said of the subsequent justice department investigation that he tried to answer the questions "truthfully and accurately" and "when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them"."

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@joebones5000 said:

None of this is going to end well for Trump.

This is always said, and yet...

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@nintendoboy16: Aye. It appears the trust in the strength of our institutions may be misplaced.

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#44  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@nintendoboy16: Aye. It appears the trust in the strength of our institutions may be misplaced.

This is why John Oliver made this joke:

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@Jacanuk: ... That does not at all read like he admitted lying.

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@Jacanuk: ... That does not at all read like he admitted lying.

If you read his statement you will see the normal politician answer for when they lied.

I told the "truth" as I recalled it. is lawyer talk for lying.

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@Jacanuk: Hm, we will just have to agree to disagree. I’m not saying he didn’t lie it’s just that statement isn’t an admission of it.

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@Jacanuk: Hm, we will just have to agree to disagree. I’m not saying he didn’t lie it’s just that statement isn’t an admission of it.

Yep, agree to disagree.

But that statement is as close to an admission as you can get without actually coming out and saying "i did lie on purpose"

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@Jacanuk said:
@zaryia said:
@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:

How f***** stupid is Trump? This will ONLY be taken as a partisan move to obstruct the investigation. Trump is going to single handily ruin the GOP brand for the midterms.

What investigation?

McCabe has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

Tell that to Trump's people,

Trump's attorney John Dowd calls for end to Mueller probe, cites firing of McCabe

That guy is a dufus and gives lawyers everywhere a bad name,

Donald Trump berates Mueller's 'biased' Russia inquiry

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43450494

"The president's comments came a day after his lawyer, John Dowd, said it was time for the special counsel's investigation to end. "