Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died of metastatic pancreatic cancer at age 87.

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@ad1x2: LMAO! How can I do that to a guy that will never read what I posted? Get real. I stated an opinion, you attacked.

Rant? It was factual, you are ranting. And no, I will never vote Republican again, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Stop trying to shame people into voting for a party they don’t agree with.

I don’t care who you vote for, if Democrats are more in line with your personal goals then have at it, it’s your right as an American. If you want to talk about trying to shame someone into changing their vote, maybe you should look at the one throwing around words like fascist and cowardice.

You’re the one saying that Romney should stand back and hand RBG’s replacement to the Democrats (assuming Biden wins in November) even if that is contrary to what his constituents in Utah would want.

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#202 Eoten
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@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@mattbbpl said:

@Master_Live: Collins always talks a good game when her vote isn't necessary. If her vote is needed, she'll vote yes.

Fortunately, Republican leadership was crystal clear that nominating a Supreme Court justice in an election year is unethical, so it doesn't matter.

That's not what dems were saying a few years ago. They gave Republicans shit for not ramming through Garland. Maybe Republicans should do what they wanted them to do before and ram someone through before the election?

It's not that they didn't ram him through so much as that they refused to even have a confirmation hearing. He was also nominated in March of an election year. Even if this confirmation is "rammed through," so to speak, we are unlikely to get through confirmation before the election. This is likely to be a lame duck appointment.

That's the consequence of losing elections. Had the DNC had a platform that was a tad more savory to the American public, they may not have lost the senate and maintained the power to confirm judges. And there have been PLENTY of judges confirmed in much less time than we have less. Sure, the DNC will try to obstruct the process with every little conspiracy theory they can muster up, then try to delegitimize the nomination going forward. Expect them to announce some kind of stupid investigation and say "well we can't nominate someone under investigation." But they're not going to succeed.

Trump will announce his nomination some time this week most likely, and they'll be confirmed within a month and there's nothing the DNC can do about it.

The average amount of time to confirm a supreme court justice is 67 days. The median time is 71 days. The election is in 42 days.

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

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@ad1x2 said:
@thegreatchomp said:

@ad1x2: LMAO! How can I do that to a guy that will never read what I posted? Get real. I stated an opinion, you attacked.

Rant? It was factual, you are ranting. And no, I will never vote Republican again, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Stop trying to shame people into voting for a party they don’t agree with.

I don’t care who you vote for, if Democrats are more in line with your personal goals then have at it, it’s your right as an American. If you want to talk about trying to shame someone into changing their vote, maybe you should look at the one throwing around words like fascist and cowardice.

You’re the one saying that Romney should stand back and hand RBG’s replacement to the Democrats (assuming Biden wins in November) even if that is contrary to what his constituents in Utah would want.

Were you this agitated when they handed Obama's nomination to trump?

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#204  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@eoten: It is not a guarantee he will win anything and the GOP will not regain the house.

@ad1x2: Are you done now? You feel better? Good. Trump is a fascist and I clearly stated why.

Refusing to break with your party out of fear is cowardice. More so when it goes against the stance your party held previously. I don’t agree with you, attacking me won’t change that:

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@ad1x2 said:
@thegreatchomp said:

@ad1x2: LMAO! How can I do that to a guy that will never read what I posted? Get real. I stated an opinion, you attacked.

Rant? It was factual, you are ranting. And no, I will never vote Republican again, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Stop trying to shame people into voting for a party they don’t agree with.

I don’t care who you vote for, if Democrats are more in line with your personal goals then have at it, it’s your right as an American. If you want to talk about trying to shame someone into changing their vote, maybe you should look at the one throwing around words like fascist and cowardice.

You’re the one saying that Romney should stand back and hand RBG’s replacement to the Democrats (assuming Biden wins in November) even if that is contrary to what his constituents in Utah would want.

Were you this agitated when they handed Obama's nomination to trump?

They should have put Garland to a vote even if the end result would have been him not being confirmed.

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@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:

That's not what dems were saying a few years ago. They gave Republicans shit for not ramming through Garland. Maybe Republicans should do what they wanted them to do before and ram someone through before the election?

It's not that they didn't ram him through so much as that they refused to even have a confirmation hearing. He was also nominated in March of an election year. Even if this confirmation is "rammed through," so to speak, we are unlikely to get through confirmation before the election. This is likely to be a lame duck appointment.

That's the consequence of losing elections. Had the DNC had a platform that was a tad more savory to the American public, they may not have lost the senate and maintained the power to confirm judges. And there have been PLENTY of judges confirmed in much less time than we have less. Sure, the DNC will try to obstruct the process with every little conspiracy theory they can muster up, then try to delegitimize the nomination going forward. Expect them to announce some kind of stupid investigation and say "well we can't nominate someone under investigation." But they're not going to succeed.

Trump will announce his nomination some time this week most likely, and they'll be confirmed within a month and there's nothing the DNC can do about it.

The average amount of time to confirm a supreme court justice is 67 days. The median time is 71 days. The election is in 42 days.

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

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@ad1x2: Answer his question.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

It's not that they didn't ram him through so much as that they refused to even have a confirmation hearing. He was also nominated in March of an election year. Even if this confirmation is "rammed through," so to speak, we are unlikely to get through confirmation before the election. This is likely to be a lame duck appointment.

That's the consequence of losing elections. Had the DNC had a platform that was a tad more savory to the American public, they may not have lost the senate and maintained the power to confirm judges. And there have been PLENTY of judges confirmed in much less time than we have less. Sure, the DNC will try to obstruct the process with every little conspiracy theory they can muster up, then try to delegitimize the nomination going forward. Expect them to announce some kind of stupid investigation and say "well we can't nominate someone under investigation." But they're not going to succeed.

Trump will announce his nomination some time this week most likely, and they'll be confirmed within a month and there's nothing the DNC can do about it.

The average amount of time to confirm a supreme court justice is 67 days. The median time is 71 days. The election is in 42 days.

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

Except they're not going to be voted out. Not that it matters, even if Roberts sides with the activist judges they'll still be outnumbered. That means any future administration will have a hard time pushing anything unconstitutional, like gun control legislation. And there's a LOT of gun control challenges making their way through the courts as we speak.

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@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:

That's the consequence of losing elections. Had the DNC had a platform that was a tad more savory to the American public, they may not have lost the senate and maintained the power to confirm judges. And there have been PLENTY of judges confirmed in much less time than we have less. Sure, the DNC will try to obstruct the process with every little conspiracy theory they can muster up, then try to delegitimize the nomination going forward. Expect them to announce some kind of stupid investigation and say "well we can't nominate someone under investigation." But they're not going to succeed.

Trump will announce his nomination some time this week most likely, and they'll be confirmed within a month and there's nothing the DNC can do about it.

The average amount of time to confirm a supreme court justice is 67 days. The median time is 71 days. The election is in 42 days.

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

Except they're not going to be voted out. Not that it matters, even if Roberts sides with the activist judges they'll still be outnumbered. That means any future administration will have a hard time pushing anything unconstitutional, like gun control legislation. And there's a LOT of gun control challenges making their way through the courts as we speak.

There really isn't anything to stop the next administration from just adding more judges to the court. It's not like this country is ever going to pass any sort of meaningful gun control, anyway. You can rest assured that the people living in fear have enough power that they will never lose their right to pack heat at Walmart, while refusing to wear a mask.

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@ad1x2: Answer his question.

If you’re too dense to see that my answer implies that I was not in agreeance with their decision to not allow a vote then that is not my problem.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

The average amount of time to confirm a supreme court justice is 67 days. The median time is 71 days. The election is in 42 days.

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

Except they're not going to be voted out. Not that it matters, even if Roberts sides with the activist judges they'll still be outnumbered. That means any future administration will have a hard time pushing anything unconstitutional, like gun control legislation. And there's a LOT of gun control challenges making their way through the courts as we speak.

There really isn't anything to stop the next administration from just adding more judges to the court. It's not like this country is ever going to pass any sort of meaningful gun control, anyway. You can rest assured that the people living in fear have enough power that they will never lose their right to pack heat at Walmart, while refusing to wear a mask.

Then the administration after that would just add more again.

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@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:

And there's still 100+ days left until this congress is actually done as the new one doesn't assume office until January. Also, many justices have been confirmed in much less time than we have until the election, including Ginsburg herself. So it's cute that you're trying to cling on to hope, but, it's not happening for you. Besides, Trump is going to win the upcoming election anyway so he'll start his second term with a 5-3-1 in the court, the senate, and almost certainly the house as well.

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

Except they're not going to be voted out. Not that it matters, even if Roberts sides with the activist judges they'll still be outnumbered. That means any future administration will have a hard time pushing anything unconstitutional, like gun control legislation. And there's a LOT of gun control challenges making their way through the courts as we speak.

There really isn't anything to stop the next administration from just adding more judges to the court. It's not like this country is ever going to pass any sort of meaningful gun control, anyway. You can rest assured that the people living in fear have enough power that they will never lose their right to pack heat at Walmart, while refusing to wear a mask.

Then the administration after that would just add more again.

Yeah, this country is just about broken. Got another 20 years at the most.

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@ad1x2: Are you done now? You feel better? Good. Trump is a fascist and I clearly stated why.

Refusing to break with your party out of fear is cowardice. More so when it goes against the stance your party held previously. I don’t agree with you, attacking me won’t change that:

I see that you posted the Wikipedia definition of fascism, now here is the definition off of dictionary.com:

a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.

He’s doing a really bad job of being a fascist, with the lack of murdering people for insulting him on Twitter daily, or his lack of silencing the media when they run critical stories about him (if you want a real example of that, look at how the CCP ordered the Chinese media not to cover Mulan's release over the scandal with it being filmed near concentration camps or the Chinese ban on Winnie the Pooh).

I see that you are on this forum along with the vast majority of the other posters insulting him and posting daily threads about how much the Trump Administration sucks without fear of reprisal.

I see that Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, and many others are not only still alive, but are still in positions of power. I see Gavin Newsome is still the governor of California, Gretchen Whitmer is still the governor of Michigan, and Andrew Cuomo is still the governor of New York. I see Lori Lightfoot is still the mayor of Chicago and Ted Wheeler is still the mayor of Portland.

You may get him on the nationalism one for talking about America First all of the time.

If it is illegal to call your head of state a fascist, then there is a good chance they may be a fascist. It is not illegal to call the President of the United States a fascist.

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#214  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@ad1x2: You do know the definition you gave is the same as the one I gave.....right.... And I have him on all points. He did say his power is absolute, he has supported silencing critics and has tried to shame them into poverty and try to sue anyone critical of him, he did gas peaceful protesters and he did force the sale of private businesses.

He ticks all the boxes, he even wants his face on mt Rushmore and a patriotic education department. Fascist gradually make power grabs, even Stalin and Hitler didn’t start off like that. You are just willfully blind to it.

And trust me, if he could arrest anybody on here attacking him, he would. He blocked people on twitter until a court told him no.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

Sure. That's why I said this is likely to be a lame duck appointment. A president who has been voted out will have his nomination confirmed by a senate majority who has also been voted out.

Except they're not going to be voted out. Not that it matters, even if Roberts sides with the activist judges they'll still be outnumbered. That means any future administration will have a hard time pushing anything unconstitutional, like gun control legislation. And there's a LOT of gun control challenges making their way through the courts as we speak.

There really isn't anything to stop the next administration from just adding more judges to the court. It's not like this country is ever going to pass any sort of meaningful gun control, anyway. You can rest assured that the people living in fear have enough power that they will never lose their right to pack heat at Walmart, while refusing to wear a mask.

Then the administration after that would just add more again.

Yeah, this country is just about broken. Got another 20 years at the most.

Maybe, maybe not. The recent riots have opened a lot of eyes to what the far left really stands for. Hate, division, violence. Gaining power and control over any means necessary. It's why they're already trying to delegitimize the election and the Supreme Court and use RBGs death to try to further radicalize people. But in the end, I don't think they'll have enough people on their side to pull off any kind of rebellion or civil war.

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@eoten: I knew that was you before I even saw who said that. And no, you are wrong. It’s the GOP about hate, violence and division. Under Trump they have made multiple illegal power grabs.

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@eoten: I knew that was you before I even saw who said that. And no, you as usual are wrong. It’s the GOP about hate, violence and division. Under Trump they have made multiple illegal power grabs.

Yeah, sure it is. Says the one calling people fascists and cowards without proof simply because you disagree with them. Totally not hateful or divisive, is it? And it certainly ain't people on the right rioting, looting, and murdering.

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@eoten: My comment was factual and backed up by actions Trump has actually done and words he has actually said. It is not hateful or divisive to criticize any government official for corrupt actions. Stop trying to shield Trump and shame people into praising him.

You have been told, right wingers cause more terrorism here then the left. It is the right doing it as well.

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@eoten: My comment was factual and backed up by actions Trump has actually done and words he has actually said. It is not hateful or divisive to criticize any government official for corrupt actions. Stop trying to shield Trump and shame people into praising him.

You have been told, right wingers cause more terrorism here then the left. It is the right doing it as well.

It is divisive and hateful to lie about police shootings in order to incite riots. It is hateful and divisive for a losing campaign to fund dirt that claimed the sitting president is being blackmailed by Putin in an attempt to delegitimize the election and make people who were stupid enough to believe that believe our government was highjacked by a foreign power. It was hateful and divisive to run a baseless impeachment claiming an abuse of power where there wasn't any to try to cover for the former VP who Ukraine has personally accused of corruption, and hoping that impeachment would give them a better chance int he next election. Everything the left has done over the last 4 years and continue to do today is for the purpose of fueling hate, and sowing division.

And "right wingers" aren't burning cities, causing billions in property damage, or committing murder over fake news stories and now threatening more violence, and "burn it all down" if Trump names RBGs replacement.

You can cling to your lies, and continue watching your side lose more and more power than they already have.

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@eoten: Talking to you is pointless. You just say the same lies no matter what. Like debating a robot. I am done with you, have a good day.

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@eoten: Talking to you is pointless. You just say the same lies no matter what. Like debating a robot. I am done with you, have a good day.

Lies? I debunked your BS and now you're throwing a hissy fit.

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Now it looks like Murkowski is very likely on board with confirming Trumps nominee as well. With that, Democrats definitely don't have the votes to prolonge the nomination, and once nominated, it's going to go through. It'll be interesting to see what kind of stall tactics they'll attempt though, but after Kavanaugh I'd be surprised if anybody falls for it.

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Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

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@eoten: Have a nice day sir.

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@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@eoten said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:

Maybe, maybe not. The recent riots have opened a lot of eyes to what the far left really stands for. Hate, division, violence.

The last 3 years have showed us what the right stands for. Domestic terror and anti-science resulting in countless deaths. Far worse than the left. Hate? Most hate groups are far right in far right counties lol. The KKK and Neo-nazis are far right groups.

No wonder your party is less popular and gets less votes and lower polling on almost all major policy. The reason you guys have to gerrymander far more than Democrats, and use underhanded tactics like Mitch's rule switching all the time.

@eoten said:

It's why they're already trying to delegitimize the election and the Supreme Court and use RBGs death to try to further radicalize people. But in the end, I don't think they'll have enough people on their side to pull off any kind of rebellion or civil war.

I don't know what you're talking about with this fantastical nonsense. But hopefully a stacked backwards ass conservative court doesn't impede progress too much. Minority rule is crap, a few religious clowns going against what over 70% want is some weird shit.

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Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

If it's lawful it's fair game, apparently.

It's abundantly clear that lawfulness overrides any precedent setting or moral implications (and I'm not so sure lawfulness is even a prerequisite for them either).

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@HoolaHoopMan: Just remember it. There should be no hesitation to act in kind.

It will take a generation to undo what's been done if the Dems insist on sticking to the norms of the past. One term of bicameral and house control otherwise.

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Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

Not surprising since the last time Donald Trump tried to appoint a Supreme Court justice the other side felt that the best way to stop his confirmation was to accuse him of being a serial gang rapist. I'd be a little salty after that too.

Right or wrong, if Democrats were in control and Clarence Thomas was the one that died they would be doing the same thing.

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@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:

Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

Not surprising since the last time Donald Trump tried to appoint a Supreme Court justice the other side felt that the best way to stop his confirmation was to accuse him of being a serial gang rapist. I'd be a little salty after that too.

Right or wrong, if Democrats were in control and Clarence Thomas was the one that died they would be doing the same thing.

That's always the excuse of scoundrels. "The other side would do this, too."

They're not the ones doing it.

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@mattbbpl said:
@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:

Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

Not surprising since the last time Donald Trump tried to appoint a Supreme Court justice the other side felt that the best way to stop his confirmation was to accuse him of being a serial gang rapist. I'd be a little salty after that too.

Right or wrong, if Democrats were in control and Clarence Thomas was the one that died they would be doing the same thing.

That's always the excuse of scoundrels. "The other side would do this, too."

They're not the ones doing it.

Unfortunately, politics is a dirty game. The GOP is trying to fill the seat now because they don't know whether or not Trump will be reelected, and Democrats are trying to stop the GOP by shaming them out of it by bringing up 2016 and by claiming that we should honor RBG's alleged dying wish (which is nowhere in the Constitution).

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#231 mattbbpl
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@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:
@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:

Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

Not surprising since the last time Donald Trump tried to appoint a Supreme Court justice the other side felt that the best way to stop his confirmation was to accuse him of being a serial gang rapist. I'd be a little salty after that too.

Right or wrong, if Democrats were in control and Clarence Thomas was the one that died they would be doing the same thing.

That's always the excuse of scoundrels. "The other side would do this, too."

They're not the ones doing it.

Unfortunately, politics is a dirty game. The GOP is trying to fill the seat now because they don't know whether or not Trump will be reelected, and Democrats are trying to stop the GOP by shaming them out of it by bringing up 2016 and by claiming that we should honor RBG's alleged dying wish (which is nowhere in the Constitution).

So we're in agreement that the Democrats should bury the GOP the first chance they get. Awesome.

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So we're in agreement that the Democrats should bury the GOP the first chance they get. Awesome.

If that is your interpretation, then sure. Power will switch back and forth like it has for the past two centuries. We can thank Harry Reid for the Nuclear Option since there's no way Trump would get 60 votes otherwise versus the current simple majority requirement.

That doesn't mean riot and threaten politicians like some people have been doing recently.

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#233 mattbbpl
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@ad1x2: Yep, that's the message. Grab power using any lever at your disposal, whenever you can.

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#234 Eoten
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@mattbbpl said:
@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:
@ad1x2 said:
@mattbbpl said:

Yeah man, we know. The GOP is going to ignore their own "principle" because they have actually none and only feign them. We all know this is going to happen.

Not surprising since the last time Donald Trump tried to appoint a Supreme Court justice the other side felt that the best way to stop his confirmation was to accuse him of being a serial gang rapist. I'd be a little salty after that too.

Right or wrong, if Democrats were in control and Clarence Thomas was the one that died they would be doing the same thing.

That's always the excuse of scoundrels. "The other side would do this, too."

They're not the ones doing it.

Unfortunately, politics is a dirty game. The GOP is trying to fill the seat now because they don't know whether or not Trump will be reelected, and Democrats are trying to stop the GOP by shaming them out of it by bringing up 2016 and by claiming that we should honor RBG's alleged dying wish (which is nowhere in the Constitution).

So we're in agreement that the Democrats should bury the GOP the first chance they get. Awesome.

Yeah, because trying to increase the number of seats on the Supreme Court (something not done in over 100 years) in order to pack it isn't going to look like a power grab at all that will send people running away from the DNC. It's nonsense like that why they don't have the power to do anything now. Their platform is corrupt from head to toe and America doesn't want it.

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#235  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@ad1x2: You mean conservatives threatening governors and blocking nurses and doctors over lockdowns?

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@eoten: There really is no choice. They're dealing with an opposing party who is ready and willing to break norms regardless of perceptions. If they don't return in kind, they will be irrelevant.

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@ad1x2: You mean conservatives threatening governors and blocking nurses and doctors over lockdowns?

Your responses have become so ridiculous I don't think I should waste my time responding to them.

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@ad1x2: Concession accepted

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@eoten: There really is no choice. They're dealing with an opposing party who is ready and willing to break norms regardless of perceptions. If they don't return in kind, they will be irrelevant.

Uuh, what are you talking about? Did you even see the crap the DNC tried to pull on Kavanaugh? Any claims to norms or any kind of high road were null and void when they tried that crap.

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#240 mattbbpl
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@eoten: What did they try to pull on Kavanaugh?

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#241 Zaryia
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@eoten: What did they try to pull on Kavanaugh?

He thinks women are liars if they are accusing Republicans. Especially Trump's 10+ accusers.

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@eoten said:
@mattbbpl said:

@eoten: There really is no choice. They're dealing with an opposing party who is ready and willing to break norms regardless of perceptions. If they don't return in kind, they will be irrelevant.

Uuh, what are you talking about? Did you even see the crap the DNC tried to pull on Kavanaugh? Any claims to norms or any kind of high road were null and void when they tried that crap.

So witnesses shouldn't be heard?

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@LJS9502_basic: Only when it hurts Republicans, when it hurts Democrats go for it.

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#244  Edited By Eoten
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@eoten said:
@mattbbpl said:

@eoten: There really is no choice. They're dealing with an opposing party who is ready and willing to break norms regardless of perceptions. If they don't return in kind, they will be irrelevant.

Uuh, what are you talking about? Did you even see the crap the DNC tried to pull on Kavanaugh? Any claims to norms or any kind of high road were null and void when they tried that crap.

So witnesses shouldn't be heard?

Lmfao at witness. You can't be a witness to a made up story. Her lawyer admitted it was a politically motivated move to delegitimize any future rulings Kavanaugh may make on the supreme court. And you people fell for it. The left has no high ground to lose.

https://www.newsweek.com/christine-blasey-ford-attorney-debra-katz-roe-v-wade-video-politically-motivated-testimony-1458217

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#245  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@eoten: A video circulating on social media. Get off your short horse.

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@eoten: A video circulating on social media. Get off your short horse.

A video of the actual lawyer talking about the actual event. It doesn't matter where the link is. Trying to use that as an excuse not to pay attention to the content shows just how far in the sand your head is. The fact is, Kavanaughs accuser lied. The members of the DNC who pushed Blasey-Ford knew this, and did it anyway.

They have no moral high ground, they deserve no more Supreme Court nominations, and they will not be adding more seats to the Supreme Court to try to offset it either. American's see them for the corruption they represent and that is why they lost even more seats in the Senate in 2018, making it possible for the nominee to be confirmed within the next 40 days.

The DNC is a party of failure.

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#247  Edited By Eoten
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Trump has confirmed the next Supreme Court justice will be a woman, and it'll be announced Saturday. My money is on Amy Coney Barrett.

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#248  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@eoten: blah blah blah. Coming from a guy who ignores all liberal links. Knock this off.

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@eoten said:
@thegreatchomp said:

@eoten: A video circulating on social media. Get off your short horse.

American's see them for the corruption they represent

More people vote for Democrats in 2016 and 2018 and most likely 2020. With the largest gap in history for 2018. In polls for corruption Trump loses. In polls for law and order Trump loses vs Biden.

You can stop saying "American's" when it makes zero sense.

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@zaryia: He won’t, he will just make some claim and attack you.