Tennessee lawmaker wants to do away with higher education

@br0kenrabbit:

Shhh, don´t break their illusion of being the master race :)

This thread and subsequent post you responeded to are about Education. Which is poor in Red States and Voters. Please do try to stay on topic.

Shhh, don't deflect.

You two can come back to the thread topic now.

@Vaasman: Reprehensible... Unbecoming? Seriously? lol

Yep, here's more:

https://rstudio-pubs-static.s3.amazonaws.com/123239_d0c42d112e934abea0c1c250960a5cf5.html

Democrats have higher annual salaries, on average.

@zaryia: My response was to Baconstrip who linked higher education with higher salaries. I am completely on topic.

1. Still off-topic. Lets talk about the GOP's poor education numbers.

2. Not that it matters, as this Tennessee loon shouldn't really joke about education all things considering, but do you have the average income of Dems vs Republicans rather than pointless donor information?

@zaryia: https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-republicans/

"Financially, Republicans fare better than either Democrats or Independents, and tend to identify themselves as such. Republican candidates gain a significantly higher percentage of votes from individuals with incomes over $50,000 per year, and the advantage increases along with the income level, to a height of 63 percent of individuals earning $200,000 or more a year supporting Republicans. This level is the direct inverse of individuals earning less than $15,000 a year, who support Democrats at 63 percent and Republicans at only 36 percent"

On average anyone with 50k a year or more leans Republican.

Would you prefer I used terms more suited to the party desires?

Guy say bad thing, says joke, but not funny, I no like, bad for job, grrr.

Can you state the median income of a Democrat and the median income of a Republican?

That thing you posted does not include that.

Anyway back on topic. This Tennessee dude should really not joke about this thing until they clean up,

https://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

Do not make me laugh, considering your post history.

Anyways while all higher learning, of course, should not be removed, I do get why some degrees, especially within the humanist area is useless and any sane person has to wonder why it´s even on the books.

But universities are private for the most part and therefore can do what they want.

The general idea is that someone who is college educated should have a thorough education, not just in the subject they choose to pursue. Humanist studies aren't meant to stand alone, but go well with degrees in psychology, sociology, etc.

This 'going to school just to study X' is a relatively new idea.

@zaryia: I haven't found that data but all data I found points to the fact on a average Republicans are more successful.

Hopefully Democrats will start getting educated in things that can actually make them money. All that education and they are still less successful. How sad!

I know.

Even more deflection.

@zaryia: But you acknowledge Republicans are on average more successful financially correct?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/264541/

Even your far left atlantic we site doesn't deny that.

Who Has the Higher Income?

Looking at the numbers above it is easy to assume that Republicans are richer than Democrats, overall. This is only a look at the richest families in America though. In everyday American households, it seems that Democrats have a higher mean salary than most Republican families. So, although many of the wealthiest families in the country are contributing to Republican campaigns, families registered as Democrats have higher annual salaries than Republicans, statistically speaking.

These findings still have some loopholes in them, of course. For instance, the data was collected over the last 40 years or so. As you know, demographics are constantly changing and these figures may have been affected as well. There is also a margin of error with every type of data collection like this. So, what do you think? Who is richer? Democrats or Republicans?

/quote

@LJS9502_basic: That's a OP-Ed of over 40 years of data.

And it's based off Donors.

But my links weren't. Why are you silent on those?

@r-gamer said:

Irrelevant stats.

This thread is about Higher Education,

College graduates, on average, earned 56% more than high school grads in 2015, according to data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute. That was up from 51% in 1999 and is the largest such gap in EPI's figures dating to 1973.

@br0kenrabbit: Your link doesn't state Democrats make more money. It also says the study's unfinished.

https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-republicans/

Why are you silent on this?

Yes. We know, even Red Voters benefit from Blue State education for a good income.

Why are you silent on red areas and Trump voters being shit in education?

https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2015/09/blue_states_red_states_rich_st.html

@LJS9502_basic:

$75,000+	33	31	34	3	49	45	6	3,341
$30,000-$74,999	31	31	34	3	48	45	7	2,584
<$30,000	20	43	34	3	32	60	8	1,464
DETAILED FAMILY INCOME
$150,000+	33	32	32	3	46	48	6	1,069
$100,000 to $149,999	34	30	33	3	51	45	4	1,188
$75,000 to $99,999	31	30	35	4	48	44	8	1,084
$50,000 to $74,999	32	30	35	4	49	44	6	1,275
$40,000 to $49,999	31	31	35	3	47	46	7	638
$30,000 to $39,999	31	33	33	3	47	46	7	671
<$30,000	20	43	34	3	32	60	8	1,464

Bold is republican % , Kursiv is Democrat.

@zaryia: Irrelevant stats!?

So you don't want to answer the question?

Great, well hopefully libs can use that education for something so they can be more successful.

Nice link showing poor millienial college grads made more then poor millennial non college grads btw.!

Yup. Better education in said state = better income in said state. This includes Red Voters benefiting from that who live in the Blue State.

Yes. You are going completely off-topic because you lost the education debate.

@zaryia: How did I lose the education debate? You are delusional.

I made a response to Baconstrip and you butted in. I acknowledged multiple times Democrats on average were more educated but unfortunately they are still less successful.

That is my argument stop spinning again.

Stats don't back that up.

Thank you. And Blue States with that superior education also have a higher average Income.

Perhaps if the GOP wasn't so bad at governing, they would increase Red State education and take those states out of the gutter?

@LJS9502_basic: Don't back what up?

https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-republicans/

"Financially, Republicans fare better than either Democrats or Independents, and tend to identify themselves as such. Republican candidates gain a significantly higher percentage of votes from individuals with incomes over $50,000 per year, and the advantage increases along with the income level, to a height of 63 percent of individuals earning $200,000 or more a year supporting Republicans. This level is the direct inverse of individuals earning less than $15,000 a year, who support Democrats at 63 percent and Republicans at only 36 percent."

@r-gamer

Man it's if the states with higher education (Blue/Purple) all have higher average income, qol, hdi, sol, etc.

lmao Tennessee

@zaryia: But they have higher poverty based off the SPM. What's the point in making extra money when you have to spend it all on taxes? Maybe that explains why most the wealthy in blue states are also Republicans?

Blue states are the worse run states in the nation so best not to follow blue states.

Actually they do.

It also varies on gender.

College grad+ men	30	27	40	3	49	45	7	2,142
College grad+ women	25	45	28	3	34	61	5	1,814
Some coll or less men	33	26	37	4	52	40	8	2,177
Some coll or less women	28	38	31	4	40	51	9	1,940
EDUCATION BY GENDER 4-WAY
Postgrad men	28	31	38	3	45	49	6	668
Postgrad women	20	52	26	2	27	69	4	621
College men	31	25	40	3	50	43	7	1,474
College women	27	41	29	3	38	56	6	1,193
Some college men	33	22	40	5	53	37	10	1,153
Some college women	27	38	32	4	40	52	7	1,105
HS or less men	33	29	34	4	51	42	7	1,024
HS or less women	29	38	29	4	40	50	10	835

I don't think you understand what my link was. Put all that code in and run it, and you'll get your answer. And yes, there's a definitive answer.

Your link:

Bill “No Pay” Fay has lived a meager financial existence his entire life. He started writing/bragging about it seven years ago, helping birth Debt.org into existence as the site’s original “Frugal Man.” Prior to that, he spent more than 30 years covering college and professional sports, which are the fantasy worlds of finance.

The article you link also states its intent from the start: It’s a good time to take stock of the Republican Party’s status.

Further, few sources are giving ('Republicans are more likely to own their own home.' -unsourced) and the links that are provided simply loop back around to the same site (debt.org) and the few sources listed are both outdated and obvously from right-leaning publications:

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Trends in American Values: 1987-2012. Partisan Polarization Surges in Bush, Obama Years. (2012, June 4). The Pew Research Center For The People & The Press. Retrieved from http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/06-04-12%20Values%20Release.pdf

Bouie, J. (2012, June 14). The Democrats' Demographic Dreams. The American Prospect. Retrieved from http://prospect.org/article/democrats-demographic-dreams

Kristof, N. (2008, December 20). Bleeding Heart Tightwads. The New York Times. Retrieved from http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=1&source=science20.com

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That article would fail any college class. Hell no I'm not taking it seriously.

Red States are 3rd world shit holes on average compared to Blue States. In fact the more RED Counties it has, the worse it gets. Much lower HDI, full-QOL, SoL going by every study known to man on this subject.

Actually literally best not to follow Red States or USA would be far far far lower on every Index. In fact if you take out every Red State USA's ranking on all major indexes shoots up.

Perhaps it is due to the lack of higher education in those Red Areas?

@r-gamer: You know that a lot of wealthy entertainers are Democrats.......right? The wealthy 1% may have wealth and may be mostly republican....not all.... but they are STILL just one percent.

And yet again, another topic derailed needlessly because you guys can't agree to disagree.