Trump attorney's memo to Pence outlined procedure to overturn election

They don't want to spend anymore money, they paid their bills/debts to other countries, I'm sure that 25 million to Pakistan for "Gender Studies" is doing very well right now.

or

The amazing 80 billion worth of military equipment "left behind" in Afghanistan back in July.

/shrug

@MirkoS77: Lol, we can agree to disagree on your perception of hyperbole.

As for the last paragraph... There's no receipts. That's disappointing.

Feels stupid to ask, but what was the point of entering the capitol if not to have results of the election changed?

Got to love the "law and order" party here.

A president literally doing anything it takes to retain power, even making a point-by-point strategy to implement with the hopes of getting his vice president on board.

So what if he premeditated and had intent to commit a takeover? He didn't succeed, so it's all good!

Apparently taking selfies was high on the list.

You think Trump made this memo?

It wasn't even the Capitol attack but the plan trump and his enablers cooked up to throw election results out. But I see the usual trump apologists ITT making excuses and whining about legality. What they wanted to do was unconstitutional and his makes it illegal.

Still waiting on your reply. :)

It's an attempt to overthrow our election. It's against the Constitution, the LAW of the land. It circulated in the trump administration not some law school. It's sad that someone who is paid to uphold the law is okay with this.

Writing a memo is an attempt to overthrow an election? Affront to Democracy! Affront to rule of law! Rabble rabble rabble!

What about putting together a bill/memo to pack the Supreme Court to overthrow previous precedents? Legal arguments are clearly available to expand the court and go down the slippery slope. You can freely call a spade a spade, especially power attempts, but the acknowledgement of how snide lawyers slither their way into these crevices - regardless of subject matter - isn't something I care for. Again, like I said before, there's a reason why lawyers get their own circle of hell. It isn't because of their "good deeds."

I enforce the law, yes, and I'm compensated for it, double yes, but what we have here is called "interpretation" of law which requires judicial review. You see, I am part of the "executive" branch and what the former law school dean (he was forced to retire because of his work with Trump folks) is conducting are legal arguments in the "judicial" branch. It's outside my "scope" thankfully.

A for effort tho. :)

@Stevo_the_gamer: In other words you support the law except when you don't. Got it.

Citation?

How does banning drive through voting make elections have more integrity?

While most Americans are for voter ID, most Americans (82%) also want it easier to vote. The above specifics seems to go against that.

That isn't an answer. Selfies could have been taken on a guided tour.

Right over like a 747. lol

I don't recall that being asked specifically, but there's certainly common sense solutions for both sides to come to terms on.

Guided tours among a pandemic? Seems restrictive. Plus, it lacks "spark."

I'll ask again, for a third time, perhaps one of you can not be a chickenshit and actually stand by your convictions:

Your defense of this memo is implicit in the attempt to apologize and excuse it under the guise of legal metric. What are you implying by arguing the point? That it's morally justified? That it's a viable path to power?

Can you answer this, or not?

Hey, no worries! Let's just belittle and marginalize it in mockery resorting to hyperbole!

I haven't seen this much salt since my drive through Tooele County in Utah. Although I know the internet is serious and with the "end of Democracy" at our doorstop, we have to be extra straight in our chair with the keyboards fast at work. Doubly so on the fierce realm of the Gamespot era. But yes, my repeat chastising lawyers weaseling their way through the law is a defense to actions; or more so it's expectance of how the real world works.

Still waiting for the receipts. :)

I'm still waiting for your evidence to show it's legit.

Well they published the memo on 2 outlets. The memo is their proof.

But lets not deflect,, you made a claim:

It most likely is fake.

Surely you can back this up. Or are you lying as usual?

I agree there should be a common sense solution for both sides to agree on.

Sadly the TX law wasn't it.

IMO: There should be Voter ID, but there should also be automatic registration and drive through voting. Increased security yet easier access for a much larger turnout. This is how many modern countries which have a superior election ranking (multiple studies, USA actually ranks poorly) do it. Some countries go further with online voting but I do not think we are quite ready for that yet.

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77: Lol, we can agree to disagree on your perception of hyperbole.

As for the last paragraph... There's no receipts. That's disappointing.

I'll ask again, for a third time, perhaps one of you can not be a chickenshit and actually stand by your convictions:

Your defense of this memo is implicit in the attempt to apologize and excuse it under the guise of legal metric. What are you implying by arguing the point? That it's morally justified? That it's a viable path to power?

Can you answer this, or not?

I haven't seen this much salt since my drive through Tooele County in Utah. Although I know the internet is serious and with the "end of Democracy" at our doorstop, we have to be extra straight in our chair with the keyboards fast at work. Doubly so on the fierce realm of the Gamespot era. But yes, my repeat chastising lawyers weaseling their way through the law is a defense to actions; or more so it's expectance of how the real world works.

Still waiting for the receipts. :)

Keep waiting for those receipts, while I keep waiting for my answers.

On a similar note, I would extend that automatic registration to also donorship of organs in the event of untimely demise. It should be automatic with the option of opting out, for whatever reason.

@MirkoS77 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77: Lol, we can agree to disagree on your perception of hyperbole.

As for the last paragraph... There's no receipts. That's disappointing.

I'll ask again, for a third time, perhaps one of you can not be a chickenshit and actually stand by your convictions:

Your defense of this memo is implicit in the attempt to apologize and excuse it under the guise of legal metric. What are you implying by arguing the point? That it's morally justified? That it's a viable path to power?

Can you answer this, or not?

I haven't seen this much salt since my drive through Tooele County in Utah. Although I know the internet is serious and with the "end of Democracy" at our doorstop, we have to be extra straight in our chair with the keyboards fast at work. Doubly so on the fierce realm of the Gamespot era. But yes, my repeat chastising lawyers weaseling their way through the law is a defense to actions; or more so it's expectance of how the real world works.

Still waiting for the receipts. :)

Keep waiting for those receipts, while I keep waiting for my answers.

You do you, keep up the good fight. Democracy never sleeps!

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@zaryia said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@zaryia said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

There's a distinct lack of confidence among independents, some democrats, and republicans for the integrity of elections; hence why those bills came to be. Not unexpected either with the onslaught of poor information, late election law modifications, mass ballot send-offs and ballot harvesting in some states; all during unprecedented times with heightened division. I understand the frustration among progressives where a tiny vocal minority is able to routinely spin an ungodly amount of misinformation on social media. I also understand the misgivings among independents and republicans for wanting voter identification laws in place to solidify their trust in the system.

How does banning drive through voting make elections have more integrity?

While most Americans are for voter ID, most Americans (82%) also want it easier to vote. The above specifics seems to go against that.

I don't recall that being asked specifically, but there's certainly common sense solutions for both sides to come to terms on.

I agree there should be a common sense solution for both sides to agree on.

Sadly the TX law wasn't it.

IMO: There should be Voter ID, but there should also be automatic registration and drive through voting. Increased security yet easier access for a much larger turnout. This is how many modern countries which have a superior election ranking (multiple studies, USA actually ranks poorly) do it. Some countries go further with online voting but I do not think we are quite ready for that yet.

On a similar note, I would extend that automatic registration to also donorship of organs in the event of untimely demise. It should be automatic with the option of opting out, for whatever reason.

@MirkoS77 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@MirkoS77: Lol, we can agree to disagree on your perception of hyperbole.

As for the last paragraph... There's no receipts. That's disappointing.

I'll ask again, for a third time, perhaps one of you can not be a chickenshit and actually stand by your convictions:

Your defense of this memo is implicit in the attempt to apologize and excuse it under the guise of legal metric. What are you implying by arguing the point? That it's morally justified? That it's a viable path to power?

Can you answer this, or not?

I haven't seen this much salt since my drive through Tooele County in Utah. Although I know the internet is serious and with the "end of Democracy" at our doorstop, we have to be extra straight in our chair with the keyboards fast at work. Doubly so on the fierce realm of the Gamespot era. But yes, my repeat chastising lawyers weaseling their way through the law is a defense to actions; or more so it's expectance of how the real world works.

Still waiting for the receipts. :)

Keep waiting for those receipts, while I keep waiting for my answers.

You do you, keep up the good fight. Democracy never sleeps!

And you as well, officer.….crime never does either.

If I can’t take any consolation that our democracy is safeguarded, at least I can rest easy knowing our streets are being swept clean of evildoers…..a most important job, no doubt.