@drlostrib: I really don't think trump is very educated.
@drlostrib: I really don't think trump is very educated.
But he's got like a good head thingy
Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."
His base seems to think so. Look at the spin in this thread.
Please understand the types of kids with whom we are dealing.
N64DD defended infowars as a valid news source
Please understand the types of kids with whom we are dealing.
That 'fact check' is technically true in that he didn't actually suggest people try it or that it would indeed work.
However, he did muse out loud about the possibilities and therein lies the problem. First it demonstrates that he is indeed a fucking moron. That is almost acceptable because if he wants to try it on himself I'm not going to stop him.
More problematic is the fact that many Americans will take cues from his musing which we have seen many times. That makes Trump reckless and endangering.
Worse still is the fact that these musings are deliberate and habitual and he uses them to his political advantage. He trial balloons all sorts of shit on a daily basis on whims/off the cuff and then denies that is what he meant. Because his ramblings are nothing more than musings there is a built in semi-plausible deniability. This is no different.
That 'fact check' is technically true in that he didn't actually suggest people try it or that it would indeed work.
However, he did muse out loud about the possibilities and therein lies the problem. First it demonstrates that he is indeed a fucking moron. That is almost acceptable because if he wants to try it on himself I'm not going to stop him.
More problematic is the fact that many Americans will take cues from his musing which we have seen many times. That makes Trump reckless and endangering.
Worse still is the fact that these musings are deliberate and habitual and he uses them to his political advantage. He trial balloons all sorts of shit on a daily basis on whims/off the cuff and then denies that is what he meant. Because his ramblings are nothing more than musings there is a built in semi-plausible deniability. This is no different.
Correct. He did muse aloud about injections. And it was reckless because he's the president and some people might actually take him seriously and try it. I mean he did say he loves the uneducated. And they do support him.
In the rest of the world when you hold a press conference about the pandemic, you issue information that's been agreed upon and checked beforehand, then answer the questions that may arise.
In the US, It's a medical brain storming session where two "possible solutions" suggested is essentially consuming disinfectant in some way or another or ram a UV-light into a orifice to defeat a virus, By someone with zero medical knowledge.
Love the pitiful defense of the usuals here. The world they live in relies on the non-existence of implicit messaging and passive narratives. Trump said these things out loud. He doesn't need to explicitly tell people, 'Go do this', for it to be stupid and dangerous.
'If they didn't state it word for word they didn't mean it!'
I watched the entire conference. It was obvious it was a sarcastic response to a reporter like he always does. Fake news gotta keep their views I guess.
"THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.
So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful."
The disinfectant sounds like he was referring to light. I can't bold the text because I'm on a phone. Disinfectant kills in a minute, light kills in a minute. Just a thought about what he might have meant. I still think he was being a bit sarcastic though.
"THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.
So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful."
The disinfectant sounds like he was referring to light. I can't bold the text because I'm on a phone. Disinfectant kills in a minute, light kills in a minute. Just a thought about what he might have meant. I still think he was being a bit sarcastic though.
...?
before that statement he talks about light. He brings up disinfectant because Bill Bryan just got done talking about disinfectants, specifically bleach and isopropanol
And why would he be being sarcastic?
I watched the entire conference. It was obvious it was a sarcastic response to a reporter like he always does. Fake news gotta keep their views I guess.
Then you didn't pay attention to the entire conference because this is false.
I watched the entire conference. It was obvious it was a sarcastic response to a reporter like he always does. Fake news gotta keep their views I guess.
Then you didn't pay attention to the entire conference because this is false.
You didn't watch the whole thing either or you'd know this was fact checked, you're factually wrong.
And why would he be being sarcastic?
He wasn't. he told Dr Brix to check into that.
yeah, i just don't know why someone would think he's being sarcastic in this instance
nevermind, i found the reason
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-inject-disinfectant-quote-a9483151.html
N64DD deserves an apology. He was right and TCs' title is inaccurate. Trump didn't suggest people to inject themselves. Trump asked a really fucking stupid question out loud. Even for Trump, it was really stupid. That's saying something.
No N64DD did not just argue against the OP.
I watched the entire conference. It was obvious it was a sarcastic response to a reporter like he always does. Fake news gotta keep their views I guess.
Then you didn't pay attention to the entire conference because this is false.
You didn't watch the whole thing either or you'd know this was fact checked, you're factually wrong.
When trump's own mouth says they should look into doctor's injecting cleaners I am not wrong.
Thank you. That is quite the relief.
That doesn't tell the story. He did put that forth as a cure.
1. That site did put it under context. The source may be questionable, but nothing in that article was. Let us not commit genetic fallacies. We are better than that. (Not talking to you on this one but I meant more in general for everyone).
2. Trump is stupid, really stupid. But I doubt even he would do something THAT stupid.
3. Trump really cares about his perception. Him getting people killed, his base nonetheless would seriously hurt his image.
1. That site did put it under context. The source may be questionable, but nothing in that article was. Let us not commit genetic fallacies. We are better than that. (Not talking to you on this one but I meant more in general for everyone).
2. Trump is stupid, really stupid. But I doubt even he would do something THAT stupid.
3. Trump really cares about his perception. Him getting people killed, his base nonetheless would seriously hurt his image.
I heard him ask say it. He did say injections with cleaners that kill virus' in one minute might be worth checking into.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/lysol-maker-please-dont-ingest-or-inject-our-product-to-treat-coronavirus/2388212/
As for his link...…….first thing was a pop up about a mug for liberal tears so they do not have credibility.
Edit: If you didn't see the longer version he was looking at the doctor with his recommendations.
@drlostrib: "yeah, i just don't know why someone would think he's being sarcastic in this instance"
Because he said today that he was being sarcastic for one, and two, who actually thinks he meant injecting disinfectants like lysol into your veins as serious? Maybe he's lying. When I first heard him say it, I didn't think he actually meant that. He had a smug tone. And you're right btw, he wasnt responding to a reporter. I read over that transcript again and saw that it wasnt a reporter.
N64DD deserves an apology. He was right and TCs' title is inaccurate. Trump didn't suggest people to inject themselves. Trump asked a really fucking stupid question out loud. Even for Trump, it was really stupid. That's saying something.
He doesn't deserve any apology. The title is correct. Trump suggested it by even asking a question. I mean, what type of question is that on a press briefing dealing with a pandemic?
@drlostrib: "yeah, i just don't know why someone would think he's being sarcastic in this instance"
Because he said today that he was being sarcastic for one, and two, who actually thinks he meant injecting disinfectants like lysol into your veins as serious? Maybe he's lying. When I first heard him say it, I didn't think he actually meant that. He had a smug tone. And you're right btw, he wasnt responding to a reporter. I read over that transcript again and saw that it wasnt a reporter.
Ah the old I screwed up and need to cover my ass excuse. He was seriously telling the doctor to check into that shit.
Love the pitiful defense of the usuals here. The world they live in relies on the non-existence of implicit messaging and passive narratives. Trump said these things out loud. He doesn't need to explicitly tell people, 'Go do this', for it to be stupid and dangerous.
'If they didn't state it word for word they didn't mean it!'
This is the tactic of defense against the worst of Trump's inclinations.
Unless he comes out and says, "I, Donald J. Tump, hereby swear before this notary and upon my signature that I am an avowed racist", they refuse to connect the dots and utilize things such as evidence, inference and deduction. You can shove dots drawing out a picture into their face and they are utterly blind, only "provable" wrong in declaration of explicitness. Which, if it ever came, they'd then probably act like they've always been open to the prospect at all times.
Love the pitiful defense of the usuals here. The world they live in relies on the non-existence of implicit messaging and passive narratives. Trump said these things out loud. He doesn't need to explicitly tell people, 'Go do this', for it to be stupid and dangerous.
'If they didn't state it word for word they didn't mean it!'
This is the tactic of defense against the worst of Trump's inclinations.
Unless he comes out and says, "I, Donald J. Tump, hereby swear before this notary and upon my signature that I am an avowed racist", they refuse to connect the dots and utilize things such as evidence, inference and deduction. You can shove dots drawing out a picture into their face and they are utterly blind, only "provable" wrong in declaration of explicitness. Which, if it ever came, they'd then probably act like they've always been open to the prospect at all times.
They elected him president after a year of him leading the birtherism conspiracy theory. This level of stupidity isn't new.
Let me guess, Fox News said something about this. And now Trump is parroting it.
I hope NO ONE takes this seriously.
That's the problem. Some will take this seriously.
Lets not wish death upon anyone in this thread.
Lol, you knew it was going down that road.
Somewhat expected reaction after sacrificing the elderly and weak to open the economy was aired a few weeks back. I didn't expect it to come this fast.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177
Transcript and BBC article, because GS was not letting me paste them in to my previous comment for some reason
Thanks... I do not want to hear him talk anyway, and reading it isn't any better. =/
This thread confirms what I’ve always thought of the Left. Not very bright.
Thank you.
Have you thought about what his UV light method would mean?
Hey they are on board with hydroxychloroquine, UV lights, and disinfectants as cures.
This thread confirms what I’ve always thought of the Left. Not very bright.
Thank you.
Have you thought about what his UV light method would mean?
Disinfectant is getting all the headlines, but probably good to point out that you should also avoid exposing your innards to a bunch of UV radiation
This thread confirms what I’ve always thought of the Left. Not very bright.
Thank you.
Have you thought about what his UV light method would mean?
Disinfectant is getting all the headlines, but probably good to point out that you should also avoid exposing your innards to a bunch of UV radiation
It's highly promoted by cancer among other things. Can't be a bad thing, right? :P
Have you thought about what his UV light method would mean?
Disinfectant is getting all the headlines, but probably good to point out that you should also avoid exposing your innards to a bunch of UV radiation
trump is stupid. That solves both. But give the cons a chance and they will say he was being sarcastic.
trump is stupid. That solves both. But give the cons a chance and they will say he was being sarcastic.
Even Trump claims it.
50,000 dead and he wants to be sarcastic about this stuff.
As long as it is less than a million he will claim he did excellent.
And if it ends up over, it would have been even worse if a Democrat was in charge.
Not sure what is more dumb, injecting disinfectant, or ingesting well known carries of disease (bats, mice, etc.)....
Trump’s only fault here is having an off the cuff conversation with the press core and doctors. In no way did he suggest anyone inject or consume anything. It can’t be more obvious.
For the media, who we assume to be smart people, to overlook this or suggest otherwise tells us how stupid they actually are - and their followers to an extent.
Trump’s only fault here is having an off the cuff conversation with the press core and doctors. In no way did he suggest anyone inject or consume anything. It can’t be more obvious.
For the media, who we assume to be smart people, to overlook this or suggest otherwise tells us how stupid they actually are - and their followers to an extent.
Stop the spin. He was serious at the time.
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