Trump takin' your guns away!

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#1 Drunk_PI
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“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

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Although I support gun control measures, I do hope you see the issue here: Punishment without due process, which is a violation of the 5th Amendment, which is part of our Constitution.

But hey, it's okay. At least we got those 2nd amendment thumpers protecting mah freedums from the gubermint, right? RIGHT?

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Is this the part where they rise up to overthrow the tyrannical dictator with their stockpiled firearms?

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That's just insane.

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#4  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Too bad Trump can't take away my Katana Sword :)

Who needs Guns when I can slice the head of a Human being.

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#5 Drunk_PI
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@mattbbpl said:

Is this the part where they rise up to overthrow the tyrannical dictator with their stockpiled firearms?

The second amendment is the white man's fantasy of pretending to be a "revolutionary" until it's time to do "revolutionary" shit.

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#6 vl4d_l3nin
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If he can get a modicum of Republican support, maybe Trump is going to do more for gun control than Democrats have done in decades.

Now hopefully the NRA wont get in the way by buying Republican politicians with the gazillions of dollars they make selling fully semi automatic AR-17's with high capacity clips to children.

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@vl4d_l3nin: How many children a year buy AR-15s? Also what is the % of AR-15s sold vs how many are used in shootings? Also are AR-15s the most used gun in shootings in the USA?

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I'm honestly flabergasted that Trump even said this. It was said that Obama was going to take your guns be conspiracy theorists, now Trump is actually saying he wants to take your guns before due process.

I'd better hear the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News tomorrow blowing their f***ing lids over this.

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@joebones5000: What legislation are you referring to? I don't remember any disarmament legislation under Bush.

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“Obama: I support moderate gun restrictions.

GOP: He's taking your guns away!!!!!!!

Trump: I want to take guns away.

GOP: <shrug>”

-@davidcorndc

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Trump taking on the NRA. I like it.

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#14  Edited By comp_atkins
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@Serraph105 said:

I'd better hear the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News tomorrow blowing their f***ing lids over this.

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@PraetorianMan said:

“Obama: I support moderate gun restrictions.

GOP: He's taking your guns away!!!!!!!

Trump: I want to take guns away.

GOP: <shrug>”

-@davidcorndc

Yep! When Democrats do it, it's fascism. But when Republicans do it, it's the right thing. /facepalm

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It will be incredible to hear nothing about this from the GOP. Gun ownership is a self-identifying trait for a whole lot of people, the idea that it would be totally cool for the president they voted for to say he wants to take away their guns before due process would be astounding.

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@Serraph105 said:

I'd better hear the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News tomorrow blowing their f***ing lids over this.

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What will conservatives do now.....lol.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

What will conservatives do now.....lol.

once they get the new 'phrase of the day' they will repeat it without missing a step. contradiction or not doesnt matter

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@mattbbpl said:

Is this the part where they rise up to overthrow the tyrannical dictator with their stockpiled firearms?

If getting a President whose campaign was pretty openly conspiring with a foreign country to change the outcome of an election and a Congress whose party was rigging voting laws and gerrymandering districts across the country and who not only blocked a sitting president from appointing a Supreme Court justice but also blocked him from appointing a record number of judicial nominees in order to tilt the judiciary ideologically wasn't the time for a revolution to protect against tyranny, then I don't know when is.

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#20  Edited By MrFreehuggs
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I would be surprised to see anything actually come of this. Trump has sided initially with Democrats multiple times then changed his mind following talks with GOP members.

All that's going to happen is that gun manufacturers will make a ton of money off of AR-15 sales because of the scare. Republicans will push a bill that arms teachers and allows CCWs to cross state lines. Democrats won't go for it. And the Democrats will catch the blame for not protecting the kids.

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It will be interesting to see how far this goes. Something needs to be done about gun violence, but things like this are the type of things that costs someone their reelection (“Read My Lips” from Bush Sr. comes to mind).

It will also be interesting to see how many liberals that bashed Trump for not stepping up on gun violence will give him credit for going against his party, versus the ones that will just laugh at him for flip-flopping and move on to the next thing to bash him on.

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@drunk_pi said:

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

LINK

Although I support gun control measures, I do hope you see the issue here: Punishment without due process, which is a violation of the 5th Amendment, which is part of our Constitution.

But hey, it's okay. At least we got those 2nd amendment thumpers protecting mah freedums from the gubermint, right? RIGHT?

So if Trump did nothing you would complain. And now Trump explains what you could do you also complain. /fp.

As to what Trump said I 100% agree if they have credible intel on a person and all that stands in the way is getting it passed court, they should have, legal power to take them and keep them until the court has decided. Which is no different than in so many other cases like with money and other goods.

Also, it does not violate the 5th amendment, confiscation is within the power of the police. If they took them without taking it through court, it would be.

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#23  Edited By TryIt
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@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

LINK

Although I support gun control measures, I do hope you see the issue here: Punishment without due process, which is a violation of the 5th Amendment, which is part of our Constitution.

But hey, it's okay. At least we got those 2nd amendment thumpers protecting mah freedums from the gubermint, right? RIGHT?

So if Trump did nothing you would complain. And now Trump explains what you could do you also complain. /fp.

....

yup.

his first mistake was declaring war on the media. the media responded in kind and its working and yes, many of us on the left fall for it but it still works.

In fact, failure number one on going to war with anyone is to declare you are doing it.

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@Serraph105: Many people who voted for Trump are one issue voters. Meaning, that the candidate says 1 thing out of many that may appeal to them on some level and to hell with the rest of the issues that go against their interests. I say this seriously. Many, many people are idiots who have no concept of what is good for them. This is how it always has been and will never change. The leaders are and always will be in the pockets of the big money lobbyists. No matter what the political affiliation they purport to be aligned with. in other words, they are all full of shit. It's on the citizens to do our research on issues and make informed decisions. Not fucking facebook, Twitter comments etc.

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@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

LINK

Although I support gun control measures, I do hope you see the issue here: Punishment without due process, which is a violation of the 5th Amendment, which is part of our Constitution.

But hey, it's okay. At least we got those 2nd amendment thumpers protecting mah freedums from the gubermint, right? RIGHT?

So if Trump did nothing you would complain. And now Trump explains what you could do you also complain. /fp.

As to what Trump said I 100% agree if they have credible intel on a person and all that stands in the way is getting it passed court, they should have, legal power to take them and keep them until the court has decided. Which is no different than in so many other cases like with money and other goods.

Also, it does not violate the 5th amendment, confiscation is within the power of the police. If they took them without taking it through court, it would be.

Reread my comment. What Trump is proposing is a violation of the 5th amendment.

But it's nice to see jack-booted thugs such as yourself defend the fuhrer.

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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

LINK

Although I support gun control measures, I do hope you see the issue here: Punishment without due process, which is a violation of the 5th Amendment, which is part of our Constitution.

But hey, it's okay. At least we got those 2nd amendment thumpers protecting mah freedums from the gubermint, right? RIGHT?

So if Trump did nothing you would complain. And now Trump explains what you could do you also complain. /fp.

As to what Trump said I 100% agree if they have credible intel on a person and all that stands in the way is getting it passed court, they should have, legal power to take them and keep them until the court has decided. Which is no different than in so many other cases like with money and other goods.

Also, it does not violate the 5th amendment, confiscation is within the power of the police. If they took them without taking it through court, it would be.

Reread my comment. What Trump is proposing is a violation of the 5th amendment.

But it's nice to see jack-booted thugs such as yourself defend the fuhrer.

He is not suggesting anything in violation of the 5th.

Again he is suggesting that the police do like any other case where a confiscation is needed, obtain a court order for seizure and then hold the guns until the main question has been heard in a court.

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#27  Edited By LoganX77
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Ahhh liberals, Spend a year comparing Trump to Hitler and now you want him to take your guns away!

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#28  Edited By TryIt
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@loganx77 said:

Ahhh liberals, Spend a year comparing Trump to Hitler and now you want him to take your guns away!

Trump is not smart enough to be compared to Hitler really.

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#29 Serraph105
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@loganx77 said:

Ahhh liberals, Spend a year comparing Trump to Hitler and now you want him to take your guns away!

.....Trump was the one who said he wanted to take people's guns away.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/28/trump-take-guns-early-due-process-sot-nr.cnn

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#30 TryIt
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@Serraph105 said:
@loganx77 said:

Ahhh liberals, Spend a year comparing Trump to Hitler and now you want him to take your guns away!

.....Trump was the one who said he wanted to take people's guns away.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/28/trump-take-guns-early-due-process-sot-nr.cnn

like sex, it only applies as an issue if liberals are doing it

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@loganx77 said:

Ahhh liberals, Spend a year comparing Trump to Hitler and now you want him to take your guns away!

I'm not a liberal, and I never said that. Trump said it.

Poor deflection.

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@drunk_pi said:
@mattbbpl said:

Is this the part where they rise up to overthrow the tyrannical dictator with their stockpiled firearms?

The second amendment is the white man's fantasy of pretending to be a "revolutionary" until it's time to do "revolutionary" shit.

?

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oh, the irony

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