Go back to... (wherever the other person is from) is something you can expect to hear from a neglected teenager, or a loser alcoholic who can't get his shit together, not the president of "the greatest nation in the world" as he likes to say.
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Go back to... (wherever the other person is from) is something you can expect to hear from a neglected teenager, or a loser alcoholic who can't get his shit together, not the president of "the greatest nation in the world" as he likes to say.
@Vaasman: Then don't act like an idiot. It's a figure of expression. My mother was born in Spain. She calls it her country. She is also a naturalized citizen of the US. She also considers the US her country. Trump is simply saying if she hates the country she is in now she can go back to where she came from. That's a fair statement.
And no I didn't take the quote out of context. It was standard leftwing identity politics. She gave a speech I feel I've heard a dozen times. Her signaling out a race of people was in fact racist. She plays this card all the time because sucker's like you eat it up.
@Vaasman: Then don't act like an idiot. It's a figure of expression. My mother was born in Spain. She calls it her country. She is also a naturalized citizen of the US. She also considers the US her country. Trump is simply saying if she hates the country she is in now she can go back to where she came from. That's a fair statement.
And no I didn't take the quote out of context. It was standard leftwing identity politics. She gave a speech I feel I've heard a dozen times. Her signaling out a race of people was in fact racist. She plays this card all the time because sucker's like you eat it up.
Solid bullshit anecdote, but Omar has not stated that Somalia is "her country" in that sense, so even if it were true you clearly aren't applying that logic to her. A total strawman and miserable attempt to dodge, you are just wrong, get over it komrade.
And yes, you did take it out of context. That you didn't even comment on the substance of the full statement only supports that.
@Vaasman: Oh really?
https://www.thetrumantribune.com/articles/in-minnesota-news-8/
Celebrating Somalian Independence Day as an American while bitching about ours. It looks like she wants to be American when it's convenient for her. And no I'm not wrong. Shes a far leftist who hates the US and Trumps comments were spot on.
And no I didn't take it out if context. She played the bullshit Islamophobia card that we've all seen played dozens of times and singled out white people.
@zaryia: Yeah we get it dude; someone said something racist to you before so that makes you a subject matter expert... please look up the definition of what racism actually is. If you said xenophobic then you might have an argument... but nothing he said was discriminatory to her based on race.
Actually he never directed anything he said to ANYONE. That’s the spin you’ve put on the quotes.
@Vaasman: Oh really?
https://www.thetrumantribune.com/articles/in-minnesota-news-8/
Celebrating Somalian Independence Day as an American while bitching about ours. It looks like she wants to be American when it's convenient for her. And no I'm not wrong. Shes a far leftist who hates the US and Trumps comments were spot on.
And no I didn't take it out if context. She played the bullshit Islamophobia card that we've all seen played dozens of times and singled out white people.
I'm willing to be wrong on this first point because it's largely irrelevant, your comment is still certifiably incorrect on grounds that America is her country far moreso based on time spent and citizenship and leadership status, and you had to come up with a pathetic anecdote to try and pretend that wasn't what you meant. Either you hate America or you were wrong. There isn't an alternative.
But no, again, you refusal to offer any meaningful dissection of her comments only proves that you've taken it out of context to make an incorrect assumption.
@Vaasman: But it's not. She can't even celebrate our Independence Day. America is her country on grounds that it is far more convenient for her to be here and in reality she knows it's far better then where she came from. But shes not proudly American that's why shes trying so hard to change it.
And again what meaningful dissection do you need? This isn't rocket science. Illian Omar wants to accept all refugees with no questions. Lots of Americans are not fond of those ideas especially those from war torn countries with high Muslim populations. This to her makes those people racist and Xenophobic.
@Vaasman: But it's not. She can't even celebrate our Independence Day. America is her country on grounds that it is far more convenient for her to be here and in reality she knows it's far better then where she came from. But shes not proudly American that's why shes trying so hard to change it.
And again what meaningful dissection do you need? This isn't rocket science. Illian Omar wants to accept all refugees with no questions. Lots of Americans are not fond of those ideas especially those from war torn countries with high Muslim populations. This to her makes those people racist and Xenophobic.
Your own link says she posted equal celebration for both holidays so yea you're definitely wrong about that.
And I'm simply going to drop the second point, you aren't offering anything meaningful but sad projection in response to my counter response, so really it's not worth it.
@r-gamer: ahh. Now you can't be proud of your heritage.
I guess we can cancel all those Oktoberfest, and st Patrick's day parties.
@zaryia: Yeah we get it dude; someone said something racist to you before
Not just me. It's a common phrase. White Nationalists used it before killing my people as well. I get it dude, some of your friends shot of some of my people, and you're damage controlling their language being used by Trump.
Just because your cult leader happened to say it doesn't magically make it not racist anymore.
Have you been living under a rock to not have heard it before in at least TV or News? It's a straight up racist phrase.
@Karnage108 said:
Actually he never directed anything he said to ANYONE. That’s the spin you’ve put on the quotes.
Saying he wasn't talking about these 4 is the spin. And bad spin. Everyone knows who he was talking about.
This line of defense is really poor.
@zaryia: Maybe they should go to countries they feel are better aligned with their political views and values.
But they came from USA, you want them to fly back to USA? Weird.
Better aligned with their views? Democrats had 12-15 million more votes in 2018. Those 4 women won the votes in their districts. Many of their views align with MOST Americans. Polling shows left leaning policy winning out on most major issues. What are you talking about.
Are you telling me I should go back to India because of my skin color combined with the fact that I dislike shitty Republican policy ideas?
Are you as racist as Trump's tweet?
@Nuck81: You can be proud of your heritage without blasting the current country your in. If someone from Ireland told me we should adopt Irish gun laws I'd gladly tell him to go back to where he came from.
Patriots actually DO blast their country when it's going down the wrong path.
@Nuck81: You can be proud of your heritage without blasting the current country your in. If someone from Ireland told me we should adopt Irish gun laws I'd gladly tell him to go back to where he came from.
Patriots actually DO blast their country when it's going down the wrong path.
Exactly. But dude, even TRUMP was blasting this country for decades, and especially before this election.
R-Gamer is full of shit. This is completely racist and nothing more. This time it's not even debatable.
@Vaasman: I don't think so. I think you're wrong. And nothing you will ever say will change my mind.
I don't think Omar brings anything positive to this country and is the exact opposite of what we need. The US provides you with the best opportunities in the world regardless of color. She wants to constantly play victim and tell the US how shitty it is to brown people when the country she left was far worse.
You're the very epitome of "I'm keeping my head in the sand no matter what you say or do and thus I shall be impervious to logic, reason, and common sense."
I'm just walking away. This thread makes me sad as ****.
It's insane, but I'm no longer surprised. When Republicans started defending stripping minorities or voting rights and voting power en masse after the Hofeller files were revealed, it became clear there were no depths they wouldn't sink to. I'm seeing this party in an entirely new light, and it isn't pretty.
@r-gamer: the US does need to be better. We do have a lot of work to do, especially after the golfer in orange Trump.
Now I'm going to go be unamerican by looking at shamrocks and listening to Irish pub tunes
@Nuck81: You can be proud of your heritage without blasting the current country your in. If someone from Ireland told me we should adopt Irish gun laws I'd gladly tell him to go back to where he came from.
Patriots actually DO blast their country when it's going down the wrong path.
Exactly. But dude, even TRUMP was blasting this country for decades, and especially before this election.
R-Gamer is full of shit. This is completely racist and nothing more. This time it's not even debatable.
trump wasn't doing it for patriotic reasons.
The truth is, the Squad are the ultimate winners of the last three weeks, because they managed to unravel Trump is such a way that Pelosi and the moderates can no longer really go after the Squad and continue the feud. It shows that the Squad knows how to take on Trump, get under his skin, and make him lash out wildly in a way that the moderates really haven't. The work of AOC, Tlaib, and Pressley on the horrific migrant camps finally unnerved Trump, leading him to make a colossal blunder, allowing Democrats to truly define Trump as a racist and most of the GOP as enablers to his racism.
@zaryia: Yeah we get it dude; someone said something racist to you before
Not just me. It's a common phrase. White Nationalists used it before killing my people as well. I get it dude, some of your friends shot of some of my people, and you're damage controlling their language being used by Trump.
Just because your cult leader happened to say it doesn't magically make it not racist anymore.
Have you been living under a rock to not have heard it before in at least TV or News? It's a straight up racist phrase.
@Karnage108 said:
Actually he never directed anything he said to ANYONE. That’s the spin you’ve put on the quotes.
Saying he wasn't talking about these 4 is the spin. And bad spin. Everyone knows who he was talking about.
This line of defense is really poor.
The "phrase" you're referring to isn't even what Trump actually said.
Trump is a moron for what he said, but you'd be just as dumb to think it's racist. It just shows you have a pretty deep-rooted hatred for him and you would trash anything he says. And I get that you're very emotional about this topic but you don't know shit about me nor do I know anything about you or your "people".
@zaryia: Yeah we get it dude; someone said something racist to you before
Not just me. It's a common phrase. White Nationalists used it before killing my people as well. I get it dude, some of your friends shot of some of my people, and you're damage controlling their language being used by Trump.
Just because your cult leader happened to say it doesn't magically make it not racist anymore.
Have you been living under a rock to not have heard it before in at least TV or News? It's a straight up racist phrase.
@Karnage108 said:
Actually he never directed anything he said to ANYONE. That’s the spin you’ve put on the quotes.
Saying he wasn't talking about these 4 is the spin. And bad spin. Everyone knows who he was talking about.
This line of defense is really poor.
The "phrase" you're referring to isn't even what Trump actually said.
Trump is a moron for what he said, but you'd be just as dumb to think it's racist. It just shows you have a pretty deep-rooted hatred for him and you would trash anything he says. And I get that you're very emotional about this topic but you don't know shit about me nor do I know anything about you or your "people".
Zaryia sounds like an identitarian/collectivist who doesn't believe in individualism, i can usually tell when people start using phrases like "my people". iv'e seen it with people on the right and left. i find it annoying
The "phrase" you're referring to isn't even what Trump actually said.
Trump is a moron for what he said, but you'd be just as dumb to think it's racist. It just shows you have a pretty deep-rooted hatred for him and you would trash anything he says. And I get that you're very emotional about this topic but you don't know shit about me nor do I know anything about you or your "people".
Zaryia sounds like an identitarian/collectivist who doesn't believe in individualism, i can usually tell when people start using phrases like "my people". iv'e seen it with people on the right and left. i find it annoying
I know exactly what he said. I've read the tweet, as have many others. Trump is getting widespread condemnation and you two are both incorrect with this contrarian opinion.
What he said was racist. No matter what you say, that term and how he used it is racist.
I know it upsets you, but that's just objectively what happened. Facts matter.
I try to avoid Trump news these days as an outsider for my own sanity but damn, when you're scrolling and something this facepalm worthy catches your eye...
Whats with this guy, over 300 million Americans and he's the one that gets elected?
What's with him is that he has cultists defending every word he says. Saying it's ambiguous and what he said isn't really what he said....
i notice we're on page for 4 zaryia calling people racist, without apologizing for the racist term he used on page 2, and you notice every time i mention it, he ignores it and goes back to whining about racists.. the hypocrisy is fucking amazing.. trump doesnt actually bring up anything racist in his tweet, but he's suddenly racist because vox, lmao, says so.. but uses actual racial slurs deemed offensive by many news sources he subscribes to, and no apology?
dude, you used a term deemed offensive to blacks, apologize for it, be a man, step up, and own it
Why do Dems keep taking the bait?
It's not even funny anymore. It's just sad.
I appreciate you for not defending Trump, or even attempting.
There is nothing to defend, unless you still find it funny. I think it's just getting old.
On the flipside, I don't know how people can defend the dems constantly falling for it, STILL getting whipped up over tweet.
I bet most people don't know that there was an executive decision to end asylum for all Central American countries. That should be top news right now. Instead, we got everyone in the media white knighting a few ladies in congress, Pelosi leading a resolution to call drumf a xenophobe for being mean to them, and 180+ post of libs on PG board on Gamespot pretending it's the worst thing in the world.
When libs call Trump a racist, scumbag, fascist, misogynist piece of shit who deserves to be raped, because he tweeted some mean things to four privileged women in government...what do you call him when he blocks refugees from repressive dictatorships from entering the country? You can't really escalate a racist, scumbag, fascist, misogynist piece of shit who deserves to be raped.
@burntbyhellfire: they need just any excuse possible to say nazi or racist like it’s in their programming. I’m sure most of them say those words in their sleep...”mumble ...nazi ... mumble mumble...racist....”
i notice we're on page for 4 zaryia calling people racist, without apologizing for the racist term he used on page 2, and you notice every time i mention it, he ignores it and goes back to whining about racists.. the hypocrisy is fucking amazing.. trump doesnt actually bring up anything racist in his tweet, but he's suddenly racist because vox, lmao, says so.. but uses actual racial slurs deemed offensive by many news sources he subscribes to, and no apology?
dude, you used a term deemed offensive to blacks, apologize for it, be a man, step up, and own it
Yea man, can't believe he said that, of course it's an outdated term. That's why the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People changed their name after all.
Wait what's that? They didn't? But how can that be, that would mean that you've fabricated outrage over the term colored people. And surely that isn't the case! You seem like a trustworthy alt account.
It was dumb of him to say it but I agree with why he said it. Those on the left should not be anti border walls and screaming racism at the smallest things happening at the border. It's annoying AF, and these stupid leftist politicians who while they may be born in America, they have a twisted agenda which is very much anti American and pro illegal immigration. Trump should execute any and all powers he has to secure the border at any cost. Immigration is about the only thing I agree with the right on. I also think the reasons for this massive illegal immigration is crippling poverty caused by American interference, puppet regimes and most of all the failed war on drugs. Regulation plus legalization and education of drugs would have saved us all from this complete disaster and utter failure of a policy, that has done only one thing and that is to fatten the wallets of dispicable cartels and their shthole leaders, aka Pablo.
Alot of this illegal immigration is because of that dumb fuk known as Regan and his war on drugs. The 2nd worst president in US history, worse than trump but not as bad as Bush jr
Bottom line though, if these women politicians are so pro illegal immigration, then they are rat traitors and should go back to shthole countries they came from. I guarantee them that most likely their parents never had it anywhere near as good. Those African immigrants, the Latinos, the carribeans, etc would never have the sack to act the way they are here in their parents home country. If they were, Darwin's laws would have made short work of them.
i notice we're on page for 4 zaryia calling people racist, without apologizing for the racist term he used on page 2, and you notice every time i mention it, he ignores it and goes back to whining about racists.. the hypocrisy is fucking amazing.. trump doesnt actually bring up anything racist in his tweet, but he's suddenly racist because vox, lmao, says so.. but uses actual racial slurs deemed offensive by many news sources he subscribes to, and no apology?
dude, you used a term deemed offensive to blacks, apologize for it, be a man, step up, and own it
Yea man, can't believe he said that, of course it's an outdated term. That's why the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People changed their name after all.
Wait what's that? They didn't? But how can that be, that would mean that you've fabricated outrage over the term colored people. And surely that isn't the case! You seem like a trustworthy alt account.
there are many calls and petitions for the NAACP to change their name, that said, they are not the authority on what is, or isnt offensive to blacks, it makes about as much sense as trying to justify other racial slurs, like that N word, because black people say it, and they do
BBC says its offensive http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/30999175/warning-why-using-the-term-coloured-is-offensive
free dictionary lists it as offensive https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Colored+people
buzzfeed says it https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/coloured-is-not-the-same-as-people-of-colour
and oh yeah, NAACP says its racist too https://downtrend.com/71superb/naacp-explains-why-colored-people-is-so-damn-racist/
@burntbyhellfire: they need just any excuse possible to say nazi or racist like it’s in their programming. I’m sure most of them say those words in their sleep...”mumble ...nazi ... mumble mumble...racist....”
their whole lives, belief, and ideology are predicated on the belief that a large group of people exist, that really dont, im not sure they could actually survive the realization that everything they focus their entire being around is a lie.. as for their programmed behavior and what i just said above.. NPC is a very fitting term
i notice we're on page for 4 zaryia calling people racist, without apologizing for the racist term he used on page 2, and you notice every time i mention it, he ignores it and goes back to whining about racists.. the hypocrisy is fucking amazing.. trump doesnt actually bring up anything racist in his tweet, but he's suddenly racist because vox, lmao, says so.. but uses actual racial slurs deemed offensive by many news sources he subscribes to, and no apology?
dude, you used a term deemed offensive to blacks, apologize for it, be a man, step up, and own it
Yea man, can't believe he said that, of course it's an outdated term. That's why the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People changed their name after all.
Wait what's that? They didn't? But how can that be, that would mean that you've fabricated outrage over the term colored people. And surely that isn't the case! You seem like a trustworthy alt account.
there are many calls and petitions for the NAACP to change their name, that said, they are not the authority on what is, or isnt offensive to blacks, it makes about as much sense as trying to justify other racial slurs, like that N word, because black people say it, and they do
BBC says its offensive http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/30999175/warning-why-using-the-term-coloured-is-offensive
free dictionary lists it as offensive https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Colored+people
buzzfeed says it https://www.buzzfeed.com/bimadewunmi/coloured-is-not-the-same-as-people-of-colour
and oh yeah, NAACP says its racist too https://downtrend.com/71superb/naacp-explains-why-colored-people-is-so-damn-racist/
So the NAACP is not an authority on what terminology is acceptable but poster with less than 200 posts new account from April is? Or, and I'm genuinely curious what you bring to the table on this one, who exactly should we reach to as an authority if neither?
Not to mention, your links are horrible and cherry picked as hell. Neverminding using a dictionary or buzzfeed, not even buzzfeed news, as sources. But the BBC article is written by a young white reporter with no context for the meaning or impact of the actual phrase colored people. Both buzzfeed and the BBC article are tailored around a very specific story, that of Cumberbatch using the phrase with inappropriate context and apologizing for it unprompted.
And your other article is a biased smear piece from lol-downtrend, but even then it's blatantly clear that that's not what the representative said. Per your own article, Francys Johnson says that the term is being used as coded language by racists, and that the NAACP is still accepting their use of the term because they proudly represent a multi-ethnic coalition of varying minorities.
@burntbyhellfire: that's not what zaryia said.
You're taking it the wrong way.
People say it all the time so it's ok.
Don't get so worked up. It's just a post.
Yea man, can't believe he said that, of course it's an outdated term. That's why the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People changed their name after all.
Wait what's that? They didn't? But how can that be, that would mean that you've fabricated outrage over the term colored people. And surely that isn't the case! You seem like a trustworthy alt account.
It is a slur, to the point it's been getting people labeled as racist for years. However, it's a lesser slur that still has some (extremely limited) legitimate uses.
@burntbyhellfire: that's not what zaryia said.
You're taking it the wrong way.
People say it all the time so it's ok.
Don't get so worked up. It's just a post.
so what you're saying is, if the left goes back to their KKK and jim crowe days and start using the N word constantly, it makes it okay right? because people saying it all the time makes it acceptable?.. that doesnt fly with leftist logic.. the fact is, its been deemed racist by many blacks, and black organizations, and he said it.. meaning at this point in time, the kid pissing and moaning about trump telling someone to go back to where they came from as being racist, has said more racist words than trump ;-)
zaryia is a hypocrit who like most leftists live in a world of double standards trying to reach and stretch as hard as he can to say trump is racist, while himself clearly being one
@burntbyhellfire: that's not what zaryia said.
You're taking it the wrong way.
People say it all the time so it's ok.
Don't get so worked up. It's just a post.
this whole thread was started with "just a post" that said less racist words than he did, further highlighting the hypocrisy of the faux outrage of the "orange man bad" mentality
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