Trump's Approval is in the Shitter again,

@blackballs: And your sources aren't biased lol. I can send a CNN one if you want? Or are you just going after one week? It's just funny people post these articles.

Gallup is known as the most accurate polling organization with a bi-partison affiliation. I love how you try to counter your bias but don't show with facts. Typical Trump fan.

You're viewpoint was racist from before, now you just sound nuts.

Gallup isn't biased. Just because you don't like the results doesn't make them biased.

@zaryia:

In other news, Trump plans to give Mexico 20 Million to try to help deport 17,000 illegal immigrants! Mexico, one of the most corrupted governments in the world is being trusted to handle 20 million for the US' favor! ?? LOL

WTF does this even say?

@LJS9502_basic:

Typo. That's what happens when you try to post a comment at the time you're about done with your lunch break! I was in a rush! How embarassing! ?

I fixed it though.

@LJS9502_basic: @blackballs: Just because someone doesn't agree with your attack on the president doesn't make them Trump fans. I read your original post, and I read the article you linked. No where does it say this is a Gallup poll.

"A new CNN poll found Trump’s approval plummeted 6 points"

I like CNN, but they are biased, and that's ok.

@blackballs: @LJS9502_basic: Here's the latest Gallup poll that I could find... He's at 41%. I really don't care, I just am tired of the fake information, on both sides. I won't watch Fox.

"His latest approval rating is 41%"

https://news.gallup.com/poll/241787/snapshot-strongly-disapprove-trump.aspx

@joshrmeyer

Currently, Trump has an average approval rating of 43.5 percent, and a 52.8 percent disapproval rating, according to Real Clear Politics composite. Trump’s overall average is dragged down by a 40 percent rating Gallup found in one poll last month, as well as a 38 percent rating registered by Quinnipiac University and 41 percent in the joint NPR/PBS/Marist poll.

Wow, if you check their cited source they are blatently lying about Trump's approval rating. Well unless they were looking all the way back in August.

EDIT nevermind, that article actually is from august. My bad.

@blackballs: "Why are Trump supporters the kings of fake news, lies and deceit. That article is from August, where Trumps ratings where his highest yet. I'm posting an image of Obama's approval rating in September 10-14, 2010 - Gallup which is historically the most accurate of all polling organizations."

You're using a Gallup poll against a CNN poll. Maybe post what the approval rating for Trump is on the Gallup poll for the week of September 10-14, 2018. Comparing biased to nonbiased(CNN to Gallup) is stupid.

@Serraph105: I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but the OP posted a poll done by CNN, a biased site. And is now talking about a Gallup poll. Doesn't make sense. Gallup is what I'd go by, so if they say it's 36%, I'll believe it. Believing a CNN poll is almost(not quite) as bad as believing a Fox poll.

Gallup´s polling has Trump at 40% on the 9/9 -2018 next data comes the 16th

Also, Gallup has had Trump at 40% on avg. since Feb

@Jacanuk: So why are two people on here claiming Gallups poll is 36%? That's rhetorical. I'm sure they'll be crickets in here now. Fake news is fake news... Or I should say biased news is biased news.

Because they are lying,

Gallup has changed their polling to weekly and for the week that ended 9/9, the Trump approval rating was at 40%

I cant believe we are actually having a conversation about the popularity of this guy

I didn't say that. I said your fake news that Trump had a higher approval rating that Obama was fake news.

@tryit: I know right? Crazy how many threads are about it.

Oh and it's not about popularity... He'd definitely have high percentages there lol

@blackballs: Why was my source fake news but yours isn't? I don't know if Newsweek or whatever site I posted is a biased site, but I do know CNN doing their own poll is.

Edit: just realized this was zaryias thread, unless you're the same person.

did you miss the meaning of my joke or am I being dense and not picking up on the sarcasm?

Wait what?

@tryit: Just being sarcastic because you were being sarcastic.

It had a drop at about a half dozen surveys. WAPO and Quinnipiac also noted large drops this month.

It also had a drop at Gallup and RCP.

1. 40% approval rating is bad. Stop flaunting it as some kind of win.

2. It's still a drop from August at Gallup, which is what CNN, WAPO, QP are also looking at. Also RCP. He had an average drop this summer.

The last month was bad for him. A lot of bad news from Manafort, Cohen, and many stupid tweets. It took a toll.

1. That is your opinion which is based on what data you use, so not really relevant what your subjective view of Trump´s 40% is.

2. Gallup has had Trump at an avg, approval rating around 40% since Feb 2018, So sure he had a slight increase and were above 40, but he was also below 40.

And sure this month and the last have been relatively bad for him, but considering Trump standards of Bad, these few weeks have not been anything to write home about.

1. 40% Approval rating is Objectively bad.

Donald Trump is historically unpopular

A useful corrective to these niche polls showing Trump’s appeal to select segments of the electorate is to use FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker to compare his overall popularity to that of other presidents.

As you can see, at this point in their presidencies, every president going back 60 years — Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy, and Dwight Eisenhower — was more popular than Trump is.

2. These polls are comparing shifts in the summer. He had a drop at just about everywhere due to the last hectic month.

No, you are doing this fundamentalistic radical leftist error again, you are assuming that you and other´s subjective opinion is anything but a subjective view.

Trump being at 40% would yes be bad if he was Obama, Bush or Clinton, but Trump is Trump and we are dealing with a new much more radical tribalist left who ever since Obama was president, have moved from being able to think straight, to be all or nothing. So Trump being at 40% considering this radical democratic left, is not "objectively bad"

So stop trying to form "facts" after your opinion or your way of thinking things are, And I am not even going to go onboard the craziness of using a highly questionable subjective poll as the foundation of any argument. And so what if he had a dip, the average is the average.

@zaryia: I don't know what your finding confusing. 40% is bad for everyone but Trump. Duh!

As someone who claims to be into economics, you sure do have some strange invalid opinions.

But it´s amazing how obvious you people on the left are, But let´s hear Matt, 40% approval rating for Trump is bad, why?

Posting factual data is not "fundamentalistic (what?) radical leftist error".

Please stop behaving like a child.

Donald Trump is historically unpopular

A useful corrective to these niche polls showing Trump’s appeal to select segments of the electorate is to use FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker to compare his overall popularity to that of other presidents.

As you can see, at this point in their presidencies, every president going back 60 years — Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy, and Dwight Eisenhower — was more popular than Trump is.

Trump's approval rating is objectively bad.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Trump being at 40% would yes be bad if he was Obama, Bush or Clinton, but Trump is Trump and we are dealing with a new much more radical tribalist left who ever since Obama was president, have moved from being able to think straight, to be all or nothing. So Trump being at 40% considering this radical democratic left, is not "objectively bad"

It's historically low for Independents too.

I didn't say 40% is bad. You did.

Trump being at 40% would yes be bad if he was Obama, Bush or Clinton

I just find it interesting that you think it's bad for everyone except Trump. Why the difference? Does 40% for Trump make it more likely he gets reelected vs 40% for the others? Does 40% for him imply greater support than 40% for the others?

You, are using subjective data as "factual"? So which data is facts? the 36% CNN reported or the 40% Gallup did? or any of the numerous other polls.

Also, do you even grasp what objectivity means?

But let´s hear, Why is Trump´s 40% bad?

Both data sets show Trump has a low, or bad, approval rating.

Donald Trump is historically unpopular

A useful corrective to these niche polls showing Trump’s appeal to select segments of the electorate is to use FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker to compare his overall popularity to that of other presidents.

As you can see, at this point in their presidencies, every president going back 60 years — Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy, and Dwight Eisenhower — was more popular than Trump is.

From a broader perspective, Trump's sixth-quarter average ranks in the bottom fifth of the nearly 300 presidential quarters in Gallup's polling history.

So Trump´s rating is bad because they compare it to previous presidents.

But is it bad if you compare it to Trump´s previous ratings? or what if we compare Gallup´s data to CNN?

Yes. Less Americans approve of Trump than most other presidents. He is one of the least popular President's in history. Going by either CNN or Gallup or WAPO or QP.

Is this hard to understand?

From a broader perspective, Trump's sixth-quarter average ranks in the bottom fifth of the nearly 300 presidential quarters in Gallup's polling history.

So what is a good rating? how high does it have to be?

Not below average, and below almost all other Presidents? lol?

Richard Nixon was more popular? Damn, I didn't expect that.

The numbers don't lie!

Well, that is a broad term.

Below average so any president below 50 is unpopular and have a bad rating I take it?

Trump is in the bottom 20%.

Not what I asked.

Do you consider any avg. rating below 50 "objectively" bad

And just for the record Trumps avg. rating so far is around 37%

@zaryia: So you cherry picked the poll with the biggest drop. Every president has drops. Trump has actually been the most stable, not that it's a good number but that's to be expected.

I don't have to cherry pick to show he had drops. He also had drops at RCP and Gallup. One of the links I posted included these two.

Either way you slice it, his approval is bad.

You're confused. When I say bottom 20% or below average I'm not talking about approval. I was talking about when compared to others. You got lost there.

IE: "From a broader perspective, Trump's sixth-quarter average ranks in the bottom fifth of the nearly 300 presidential quarters in Gallup's polling history."

When I, and historians/pollsters, say Trump has a poor approval, we mean he has a poor approval. This isn't rocket science. This isn't special parsing. This isn't spin. It's direct reading of the data. His approval is bad compared to most presidents. A large amount of Americans do not approve of this president, than almost ever before.

Do you simply not like the semantics I'm using? Would you prefer I say his approval is one of the worst in history and the bottom 20% instead of saying "bad"?

As a Brit, I saw two sides of the Trump phenomenon. The side were he made speeches in the run up to the election in front of thousands of people and sounded like a reasonable guy...but you'd normally have to watch these unedited and Live. Then the side of the American and British news channels who took his words out of context and made him look like the most unlike-able racist, misogynist in the history of American politics. Oh and they also said that Hilary Clinton had a 99% chance of winning the election. So I'd take these "opinion polls" and whatever these news corps says with less than a pinch of salt.

Hmm, so you won´t answer a straightforward question. I get that you think Trump´s 40% is bad, But what is a good rating? it´s not that hard of a question to answer

It was once not in the shitter?

No he never sounds good unless he's forced to read speeches. Any time he wings it sounds like he is....egotistical unintelligent intolerant narcissist.

Was it ever not in the shitter?

Funny, but what is not considered in the "shitter" above 45%, 50% 60% 70%?