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https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-jerusalem-076a9ec7e2bd9c065882c64a4ab820a1

Hamas militants fired a large barrage of rockets into Israel on Monday, including one that set off air raid sirens as far away as Jerusalem, after hundreds of Palestinians were hurt in clashes with Israeli police at a flashpoint religious site in the contested holy city.

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Abu Obeida, spokesman for Hamas’ military wing, said the attack was a response to what he called Israeli “crimes and aggression” in Jerusalem. “This is a message the enemy has to understand well,” he said. He threatened more attacks if Israel again invades the sacred Al-Aqsa Mosque compound or carries out planned evictions of Palestinian families from a neighborhood of east Jerusalem that have raised tensions.

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Earlier, Israeli police firing tear gas, stun grenades and rubber bullets clashed with stone-throwing Palestinians at the iconic compound, which is Islam’s third-holiest site and considered Judaism’s holiest. Tensions at the site have been the trigger for prolonged bouts of violence in the past, including the last Palestinian intifada, or uprising. It was not clear if the current unrest would escalate or dissipate in the coming days.

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More than 305 Palestinians were hurt, including 228 who went to hospitals and clinics for treatment, according to the Palestinian Red Crescent. Seven of the injured were in serious condition. Police said 21 officers were hurt, including three who were hospitalized. Israeli paramedics said seven Israeli civilians were also hurt.

It's not unusual for violence the region to escalate to a full-blown military conflict. Current ongoing daily clashes have been in the news cycle for a few days now. Will be interesting to see how the Biden Administration tackles the ongoing conflict.

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#2  Edited By sakaiXx
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The Israeli been encroaching into East Jerusalem which belongs to the Palestinian so I'd be more surprised if Palestinian didn't respond.

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jews and palestinians gonna jew and palestinian.

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Atheist majority can't arrive soon enough...then maybe one side wouild realize "Oh you want that pile of rocks where there's no resources and nothing grows? Have at it"

...though I guess I'd be fooling myself if I thought that was really why they were fighting. Religion is how you get people to fight, not why. You fight for wealth and power.

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It’s strange that the US hasn’t invaded Israel....ah I see...

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@sakaixx: I disagree.

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#9  Edited By deactivated-609b1cfe23050
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@Gaming-Planet: Their fuhrer? Hitler tried to kill them. Anti semitism isn’t cool.

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I'm interested to see how biden will react with the Syria conflict also.

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#12  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@Gaming-Planet: I'll take it seriously when something reigns in HAMAS.

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@LJS9502_basic: Good luck selling anybody on that! They are seen as a oppressed minority, even tough that’s BS.

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#14  Edited By Maroxad
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While I do admire Israel's more secular approach and (flawed) take on democracy. There is no excuse for how Israel is treating the palestinians.

@eoten said:

You do realize Jews and Palestinians in Israel are genetically identical, don't you?

You do realize Gaming wasn't talking about genetics, right?

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@Maroxad: There is no justification for how Israel gets treated. Read the Bible, Israel was founded on violence.

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@Maroxad: There is no justification for how Israel gets treated. Read the Bible, Israel was founded on violence.

First of all, 2 Wrongs don't make a right. And are you seriously letting 2-3000 year old propaganda pieces determine contemporary issues?

I know full well the history of Judaism and the other Abrahamic Claptrap. Quite frankly, I wish those religions would go away. At least in an organized form. I mean the TRUE history, not the stories painted by the Bible, Quran or Torah.

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Can someone link an unbiased pure factual source as to exactly what is going on. I've been busy and could not keep up.

Is it true Israeli's are trying to throw Palestinians out of their houses or is this spin.

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#18  Edited By Maroxad
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@zaryia said:

Can someone link an unbiased pure factual source as to exactly what is going on. I've been busy and could not keep up.

Is it true Israeli's are trying to throw Palestinians out of their houses or is this spin.

Yes and No.

Yes, Palestinians are Evicted with their houses demolished. However this is not done unlawfully. The reason for this is a lack of housing permit, which is hard for palestinians to obtain.

No, while they were attempting to demolish houses, only 4 palestinian households got evicted. Before the supreme court stepped in. Any future demolitions are put on hold until further hearings.

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/escalation-east-jerusalem-gaza-strip-and-israel-flash-update-1-1700-11-may-2021

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@deactivated-609b1cfe23050 said:

@Maroxad: There is no justification for how Israel gets treated. Read the Bible, Israel was founded on violence.

Lol, why would say to read the bible? It has no relevance to the modern world whatsoever.

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Aah, so basically more misleading fake news about the situation. Someone doesn't have the appropriate building permit, builds anyway, gets in trouble, building is demolished, the news say "israel demolishing Palestinian homes" and the left goes rabid.

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Some of the videos of the "iron dome" are downright insane to witness.

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Didn't they just sign a peace treaty last year?

Dam Uncle Joe what happened?

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@silentchief said:

Didn't they just sign a peace treaty last year?

Dam Uncle Joe what happened?

When did HAMAS sign a peace treaty?

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Seems the rockets fired into Israel recently killed 20 people, 9 of them children. What kind of people launch rockets into populated areas with the intention of killing innocent people, achieve that goal, with 9 of them being children, and then try to pretend to be the victims?

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@eoten: actually, that was on the Palestinian side and death toll is mounting. 65 palestinian and 7 israeli as I'm told by news.

Of course everyone have sides and from my point of view this happened when Palestinian were evicted from their East Jerusalem home and further aggrevated when Israeli police recorded using aggression and throwing smoke grenade at a palestinian holy site that angered the palestinian before the whole episode happened.

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@eoten:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-conflict-80-cent-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-are-civilians-un-report-says-9606397.html

False. Israel deliberately targets civilians discriminately and not tossing bombs indiscriminately. Just recently Israel bombed an apartment. The people of interest will always side with Israel and their colonial ways. Gaslighting the public and media if necessary.

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@Gaming-Planet said:

@eoten:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-conflict-80-cent-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-are-civilians-un-report-says-9606397.html

False. Israel deliberately targets civilians discriminately and not tossing bombs indiscriminately. Just recently Israel bombed an apartment. The people of interest will always side with Israel and their colonial ways. Gaslighting the public and media if necessary.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that the building contained offices used by Hamas across several floors, including intelligence offices of its military wing, and a research and development unit working on rockets.The IDF also said it provided "advance warning to civilians in the building and provided sufficient time for them to evacuate the site."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-intl/index.html

At least they knock, first.

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Wish I felt more convinced there were lengths Netanyahu wouldn't go to to save his own arse politically.

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@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

@eoten:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-conflict-80-cent-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-are-civilians-un-report-says-9606397.html

False. Israel deliberately targets civilians discriminately and not tossing bombs indiscriminately. Just recently Israel bombed an apartment. The people of interest will always side with Israel and their colonial ways. Gaslighting the public and media if necessary.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that the building contained offices used by Hamas across several floors, including intelligence offices of its military wing, and a research and development unit working on rockets.The IDF also said it provided "advance warning to civilians in the building and provided sufficient time for them to evacuate the site."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-intl/index.html

At least they knock, first.

The IDF is lying.

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@Gaming-Planet said:
@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

@eoten:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-conflict-80-cent-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-are-civilians-un-report-says-9606397.html

False. Israel deliberately targets civilians discriminately and not tossing bombs indiscriminately. Just recently Israel bombed an apartment. The people of interest will always side with Israel and their colonial ways. Gaslighting the public and media if necessary.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that the building contained offices used by Hamas across several floors, including intelligence offices of its military wing, and a research and development unit working on rockets.The IDF also said it provided "advance warning to civilians in the building and provided sufficient time for them to evacuate the site."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-intl/index.html

At least they knock, first.

The IDF is lying.

Kinda odd, then, how everyone had their cameras pointed at the building well before the first strike occurred. They typically drop dummy bombs or noisemakers first.

All this news makes me wonder if @GazaAli ever manged to get out.

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@Gaming-Planet said:
@br0kenrabbit said:

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that the building contained offices used by Hamas across several floors, including intelligence offices of its military wing, and a research and development unit working on rockets.The IDF also said it provided "advance warning to civilians in the building and provided sufficient time for them to evacuate the site."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-intl/index.html

At least they knock, first.

The IDF is lying.

Nice crystal ball you have there.

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@Gaming-Planet said:
@br0kenrabbit said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

@eoten:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-conflict-80-cent-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-are-civilians-un-report-says-9606397.html

False. Israel deliberately targets civilians discriminately and not tossing bombs indiscriminately. Just recently Israel bombed an apartment. The people of interest will always side with Israel and their colonial ways. Gaslighting the public and media if necessary.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement that the building contained offices used by Hamas across several floors, including intelligence offices of its military wing, and a research and development unit working on rockets.The IDF also said it provided "advance warning to civilians in the building and provided sufficient time for them to evacuate the site."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes-rockets-intl/index.html

At least they knock, first.

The IDF is lying.

Tinfoil hat award goes to this @Gaming-Planet, but this is not the hardest thing to believe since you got away saying the most raciest thing I have ever seen said on this forum. So CONGRATS!

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And Gal Gadot made an ass of herself on the matter.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

And Gal Gadot made an ass of herself on the matter.

No she didn't. People made asses of themselves reading it though.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

And Gal Gadot made an ass of herself on the matter.

Regarding this? If so, can you elaborate why?

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@Stevo_the_gamer: I’m confused. Sounds fine to me.

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@Stevo_the_gamer: The wording pretty conveniently leaves out Palestine, as if they aren't suffering through Bibi and Hamas' atrocities. She was too one sided, which is no shock, given she was conscripted to IDF.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer: The wording pretty conveniently leaves out Palestine, as if they aren't suffering through Bibi and Hamas' atrocities. She was too one sided, which is no shock, given she was conscripted to IDF.

So when she says our neighbors deserve the same, you just ignored that?

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@LJS9502_basic: "Neighbors" could mean anyone sharing a border with Israel.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@LJS9502_basic: "Neighbors" could mean anyone sharing a border with Israel.

You're just looking to hate.....

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

@LJS9502_basic: "Neighbors" could mean anyone sharing a border with Israel.

You're just looking to hate.....

God forbid I dislike scumbags.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

@LJS9502_basic: "Neighbors" could mean anyone sharing a border with Israel.

You're just looking to hate.....

God forbid I dislike scumbags.

Now if you had just stated you had an agenda to start with this could have been avoided.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

God forbid I dislike scumbags.

Now if you had just stated you had an agenda to start with this could have been avoided.

Dude! Gadot is a scumbag! Netanyahu is a tyrant and Hamas are terrorists. What do you want? All I want to see is the people living between Israel and especially Palestine to live better than this.

Ted Cruz even supports her. Right-Wing media even support her.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Now if you had just stated you had an agenda to start with this could have been avoided.

Dude! Gadot is a scumbag! Netanyahu is a tyrant and Hamas are terrorists. What do you want? All I want to see is the people living between Israel and especially Palestine to live better than this.

Ted Cruz even supports her. Right-Wing media even support her.

That issue isn't one sided though. HAMAS is a terrorist organization.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

Dude! Gadot is a scumbag! Netanyahu is a tyrant and Hamas are terrorists. What do you want? All I want to see is the people living between Israel and especially Palestine to live better than this.

Ted Cruz even supports her. Right-Wing media even support her.

That issue isn't one sided though. HAMAS is a terrorist organization.

That's what I just said. And I know it isn't one sided. Scumbag vs Scumbag over there, like Burma right now.