White House and Trump double down on Climate Denial.......(in 2018.....)

Trump: 'I don't believe' government climate report finding

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-government-climate-report-finding-59425476

Sarah Sanders: Climate change report 'not based on facts'

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/418502-sarah-sanders-calls-climate-change-report-most-extreme-version-not

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You just have to be nicer to them to convince them. If you stop telling them they're wrong then they'll realize they're wrong.

they are like snowflakes who put their personal feelings above the possibly of global destruction of humanity

Remember this old gem? what a moron my head hurts reading his dumb shit.

Well remember evangelicals heavily backed this clown. The science denial on this is absolutely fueled by religion (specifically Christianity) here in the States. That is the core to the anti-intellectual, anti-science, and anti-fact movements in this nation.

Thus its the core reason why there is still so much climate change denial. That, and the lobbying for the fossil fuel industry.

Sad thing is his supporters are stupid enough to cheer him on while he does this, and the proceed to have 3, or 4 spawns. Which is over contributing to the problem, and shows an abundant lack of care in regards to their children's livable environment when they get older. That is even before factoring following generations.

Pure denial at it's finest, however, it's dangerous given that it's real and impacts everyone on the planet.

According to the report, suicide is a factor of global warming.

Suicide is one of the least understood phenomena of social science it's difficult to link it to anything; bullying, poverty, race, gender etc.

but we got it found out now guys, thanks to climate scientists. People are offing themselves in record numbers because it's a little warmer. Thanks Ted Turner and Al Gore.

They found a correlation. Correlation does not imply causation, but biologically it's an interesting observation that merits some additional study. Similar to how we now understand that light deprivation contributes to depression, there could be some mechanism that causes similar responses.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Sounds in line with other fields of science, (as well as common sense)

These catastrophes cause great physical harm, but they also impose a less obvious toll on the human psyche. When a wildfire destroys your home or business, when a flood washes away your crops for the season or your entire neighborhood, when severe drought stresses your family’s daily life, the psychological effects can be devastating. People coping with severe weather conditions can experience serious mental health symptoms, including posttraumatic stress, depression, and anxiety.

“An intensely traumatic event will have a substantial effect on the mental health of many survivors,” said psychologist and researcher Carl F. Weems, an associate professor at the University of New Orleans. “The more severe and intense your exposure to traumatic experiences during a disaster, the more likely that you will have severe mental health symptoms. If you watch someone die or your house floods, you tend to have more intense effects.”

A weather-related disaster is likely to be an acutely traumatic event. And the closer you are to the center of tragedy, the worse the effects on your mental health, Weems explained. The timing and distance of evacuation, the extent of destruction to your home and community, and the amount of family and community support all play a role. According to Weems, research suggests that between 25 and 50 percent of all people exposed to an extreme weather disaster may have some adverse mental health effects, the degree of severity depending on a number of things, including the person’s age, coping capacity, and proximity to the devastation.

“When you have one of these massive disasters, the effects are long-range,” he said. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, for example, researchers found no decline in cases of posttraumatic stress disorder symptoms even after more than two years. “Even now we have seen a relatively small drop-off in symptoms. This suggests that we will have to respond to future disasters in new ways, that different kinds of interventions are needed three and four years down the road.” Weems added that the current federal disaster response policy makes little provision for long-term mental health treatment.

Consumers may also want to opt for a health plan with generous mental health benefits, as the American Psychological Association predicts that climate disruption will cause a steady increase in mental health issues, including depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, suicide, and addiction

But back on topic, do you disagree with the reports main findings regarding both climate change and AGW are in fact real, and will have harmful effects on humans and the economy?

If not, can you quote the portions you found to be wrong and objectively refute them with peer reviewed studies? I take it you won't answer this question. Conservatives never do.

lol CNN real time fact checked her,

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/418598-cnn-airs-fact-check-graphics-during-sanders-press-briefing

I don't usually like CNN much, but that was a bit epic.

Climate change is just a branding term used to gather support for unpopular measures.

CO2 isn't the problem. The problem is 7+ billion people(and counting) all pursuing the American dream.

So if we have a problem, too many people all craving a lifestyle of high consumption on a planet with finite resources. How do we solve the problem?

This is where climate change comes in. The branding makes it easy to support. We are just reducing CO2 emissions. There is no mention of having to be poor or of reducing global population.

This isn't college. It's the real world. Grow up.

Hey look, a snowflake that can't answer questions is trying to doubt scientists with years of experience and education.

You can introduce a wealth of facts to Trumpettes but, like the cultists they are, aren't immune to anything factual.

Trump uses state of the art Gut Feeling Technology (TM) that most scientists don't have access to.

Also this is obviously a conspiracy of the powerful ecologist lobby against the poor oil corporations.

I didn't think you would understand the problem of infinite growth in a finite system.

That's why they came up with Climate Change, which is just a rebranding of Global Warming. So simpletons like you would have a slogan to embrace, since concepts like these are far beyond you.

@Damedius: So what you're saying is that thousands of scientists through the world have been fabricating hard-data for decades now? All this because people want to live the American dream? Seems legit.

What I'm saying is that the real problem is infinite growth in a finite system.

"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,

Themodels are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,

Redundancy is a problem for Trumpettes. Once again, trumpettes proved how sad and dumb they are.

Climate change is real and its effects are real.

Keep to flinging feces, it's the one thing you are good at.

@Damedius: Dude I get that "infinite growth on a finite system" might sound like something really smart to you but it means nothing. Probably some silly mantra you got from some silly YouTube video. As for those quotes, they are clearly out of context but I have no issue at all with the idea that the worst outcome of climate change not being real is a better earth.

Simply put, if you choose to ignore the fact that humans can produce cataclysmic changes on earth there's no issue at all with us being on a finite system. In fact the system isn't really that finite and nature tends to regulate animal populations quite easily in relation to the available resources. With climate change out of the equation deforestation won't be that much of an issue, plenty of land available for food and housing. And within 100 years space mining will allow for access to unimaginable amounts of resources.

But back to reality... Scientific data overwhelmingly supports that humans are an having impact on climate. You denialists can twist stuff all you want to but truth is NOTHING supports your theories, just that "gut feeling". Like the "gut feeling" flat-earthers have.

But all this is irrelevant to be honest. Little will change, oil giants will keep buying politicians, auto giants will keep getting getting away with their frauds, etc. And they know they can count on people like you.

i'm waiting for a time when there are AI systems capable of fact-checking reports / speakers, etc. in real-time.

think about how interesting presidential debates will be when millions can see exactly where candidates are spouting bullshit.

If we really want to talk about science. Lets talk about the disconnect between resource consumption and our dwindling resources. That's what infinite growth in a finite system means.

It means our consumption keeps increasing and putting a strain on the earth's resources. It means while everyone is complaining about climate change, we will, in the not to distant future be fighting resource wars as countries look to compete for the remaining resources on the planet.

Dude, this isn't fallout. Trumpettes unhinged.

I knew deep down you were anti-science.

You probably believe that if we pray to Gaia she will bestow us with more resources.

Jesus, first you believe this is some fallout game, now you think Fuhrer Trump will bestow you with resources?

Trumpettes unhinged.

@comp_atkins: The response then will be the same as the response today - the fact checkers are biased.

What are you and everybody else in this thread doing about climate change? Honest question.

Mother Gaia we have banished the CO2 monster, please provide us with more of your infinite resources. We can no longer live on hope and change.

@n64dd: What's the relevance to my comment about fact checkers?

Personally, my wife and I use fuel efficient vehicles, keep the house cool in winter and warm in summer, recycle, use led bulbs, and offer to give people rides when we're going to the same place (which happens a lot due to coaching and other service activities).

It wasn't an attack, just an honest question. I'm trying to be a little more eco friendly myself.

@n64dd: I greatly reduced my meat consumption to once a week at most (and it basically used to be present in every meal) and I'm using my car as little as possible (went from £150/m to £20/m). And best thing is both things were actually an improvement to my quality of life.