Is Sonic being milked?

Now this may seem odd at first, and hard to believe, but in the past pre-Colors/4, I think Sega was only using Sonic as their own Halo. I mean really, all these spin offs and other awful games are just there to earn a few cheap bucks. No one with a working brain would buy most of Sonic's games after Heroes because they just weren't well made. Once Naughty Dog was done with Crash, they dropped him to start production on something new, being Jak and Daxter. Spyro's creators Insomanic, did the same thing, dropping their lead mascot for Ratchet and Clank. While there are more Ratchet and Clank games, they are at least well done. But Sega just keeps pouring out crap. At least now with 4 and colors, we can get that bad taste out of our mouths for a brief couple moments.

But I ask you, should Sonic be dropped from Sega like the two said companies dropped their mascots, leaving them for someone else to pick them up? I think it may benefit Sonic. It's not like anyone could make him any worse. Crash and Spyro were picked up by the wrong people after they were abandoned, which is why they suck. No one but Sega could mess up Sonic however, and I feel Sonic may see the light of day with someone else at his side. Think of it as, redemption.

Thoughts?

No one but Sega could mess up Sonic however, and I feel Sonic may see the light of day with someone else at his side.Soniczero1993

There are a TON of developers out there who could mess up Sonic worse than SEGA. There are a few developers out there that could so Sonic right if they just worked on the main series and put an entry out every 2-3 years or something. Ideally, Sonic Team Japan should be doing this and the spin off titles would be allocated to other studios. And for the most part I believe that's happening.

Can football announcer Andres Cantor make any sport exciting?

Although, I agree with the above post, there are far worse milkings than this (Activision and Guitar Hero/Call of Duty, for starters)

i doubt sega will drop sonic but should it for whatever reason happen i think he would be fine if nintendo or capcom (as long as they dont abuse him) picked him up because we all nintendo does a very good job with its franchises and capcom yes they have practically abused their franchises but a good majority of those have gotten positive reception. but like i said i dont think sega will drop sonic because sonic got sega to where they are and helped sell consoles during the 16 bit days.

In a word, yes. If you read my recent blue blur, Sega was swimming in debt in the post Dreamcast years and needed easy cash, answer, milk Sonic. Get 4Kids to localize an anime. Why? Because kids will buy any game based on a TV show they like. Case in point: Naruto and Spongebob games. MS tried the same thing with Viva Pinata. They released a 4Kids TV prior to the game's release in hopes kids would get hooked on it and want to buy the game along with a shiny new 360 and for years, Sega flat out said they didn't care about what fans or metacritic scores said, kids loved colorful friends, werehogs and Shadow using guns because as I said if you were a kid between the ages of 6 and 8 with a PS2, what choices did you really have? Sometimes a crappy version of something you like is better than nothing at all. I wrote a letter to Sean Malestrom saying how I was more excited for Epic Mickey than Other M and I talk about how once upon a time, kids games actuallly had effort put into them.

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/email-mickey-over-metroid/

As he said "I, too, have fond memories of Disney games back in the 8-bit and 16-bit generation when the games were good. They were not 'Industry slop'. Perhaps this is why the Industry hates Nintendo hardware being in the lead because Nintendo software means they actually have to make much better games for children."

And with the Wii, now kids have high quality games geared for them like NSMBWii and Wii Sports, suddenly they didn't need to spend their hard earned allowance to tooth fairy money on crappy Sonic, Crash and Spyro games. The recent Crash and Spyro games were both sales disappointments as was Sonic and the Black Knight. If there was ever a game that was a blantant cash in on fans and kids, it was that. Sorry, sonicphc, it might not have been as terrible as some reviews said but the short, gimmicky gameplay and lack of depth as well as lack of polish in some places showed that the game was nothing more than something Sega cranked out to make some easy cash off kids and Sonic die hards.

And sure you insane cultists Sonic fans can go on about how we're all wrong and that it's all this untapped genius that we simply can't understand but deep down you even know that Sega's taking you for a ride.

To be fair, at least Sonic's handheld games have been good. And Spyro had some decent handheld titles as well, not nearly as horrible as the newer console games. >_< Everyone always forgets the handheld games.

Anyway, I'd kinda like to see someone else take a spin at Sonic, at the very least. Maybe HAL? 

To be fair, at least Sonic's handheld games have been good. And Spyro had some decent handheld titles as well, not nearly as horrible as the newer console games. >_< Everyone always forgets the handheld games.

Anyway, I'd kinda like to see someone else take a spin at Sonic, at the very least. Maybe HAL?

haga11111

Well there seems to be this mindset that "handhelds don't count." Doesn't matter how good your DS installment is, unless it's console counterparts are equally good it doesn't matter.

Someone was going onto me about "Sonic hasn't had a good game in ages" to which I said "well Sonic Rush on the DS was pretty good." and he flat out said "handhelds don't count."

This is ironic as currently the top selling game system isn't a console, it's the DS. Even during the Gamecube years, everyone was convinced Nintendo was done and never mind that GBAs sold like crazy and the original Gameboy outlasted every competitor that went against it.

The DS has plenty of "shovelware" and "evil" casual games and yet no one seems to accuse it of destroying gaming. Nor was there the horrid backlash for Nintendogs or Brain Age like there was for Wii Fit or Wii Music. Odd isnt' it?

If you can't play it on your shiny plasma TV in HD no one gives a carp. That's my guess as to the "handhelds don't count" mindset.

Seriously though, all 5 of Sonic's non-GameGear handheld games have been awesome, and stayed true to the old formula (even if Rush Adventure did have boats, although the boating sections are actually pretty fun for the most part.) I can't really say much of the GameGear, built from the emulated games I've played on Sonic Adventure DX they're not so great.

Also, they have an argument, ridiculous though it may be, that motion control is lame. However, there's no real drawback to a touch screen, so maybe they just ignore the DS? Just a thought.

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To be fair, at least Sonic's handheld games have been good. And Spyro had some decent handheld titles as well, not nearly as horrible as the newer console games. >_< Everyone always forgets the handheld games.

Anyway, I'd kinda like to see someone else take a spin at Sonic, at the very least. Maybe HAL?

kbaily

Well there seems to be this mindset that "handhelds don't count." Doesn't matter how good your DS installment is, unless it's console counterparts are equally good it doesn't matter.

Someone was going onto me about "Sonic hasn't had a good game in ages" to which I said "well Sonic Rush on the DS was pretty good." and he flat out said "handhelds don't count."

This is ironic as currently the top selling game system isn't a console, it's the DS. Even during the Gamecube years, everyone was convinced Nintendo was done and never mind that GBAs sold like crazy and the original Gameboy outlasted every competitor that went against it.

The DS has plenty of "shovelware" and "evil" casual games and yet no one seems to accuse it of destroying gaming. Nor was there the horrid backlash for Nintendogs or Brain Age like there was for Wii Fit or Wii Music. Odd isnt' it?

[QUOTE="haga11111"]

To be fair, at least Sonic's handheld games have been good. And Spyro had some decent handheld titles as well, not nearly as horrible as the newer console games. >_< Everyone always forgets the handheld games.

Anyway, I'd kinda like to see someone else take a spin at Sonic, at the very least. Maybe HAL?

kbaily

Well there seems to be this mindset that "handhelds don't count." Doesn't matter how good your DS installment is, unless it's console counterparts are equally good it doesn't matter.

Someone was going onto me about "Sonic hasn't had a good game in ages" to which I said "well Sonic Rush on the DS was pretty good." and he flat out said "handhelds don't count."

This is ironic as currently the top selling game system isn't a console, it's the DS. Even during the Gamecube years, everyone was convinced Nintendo was done and never mind that GBAs sold like crazy and the original Gameboy outlasted every competitor that went against it.

The DS has plenty of "shovelware" and "evil" casual games and yet no one seems to accuse it of destroying gaming. Nor was there the horrid backlash for Nintendogs or Brain Age like there was for Wii Fit or Wii Music. Odd isnt' it?

Sin and Punishment 3 looks killer.

Oh man. I meant Kid Icarus...

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To be fair, at least Sonic's handheld games have been good. And Spyro had some decent handheld titles as well, not nearly as horrible as the newer console games. >_< Everyone always forgets the handheld games.

Anyway, I'd kinda like to see someone else take a spin at Sonic, at the very least. Maybe HAL?

mariostar0001

Well there seems to be this mindset that "handhelds don't count." Doesn't matter how good your DS installment is, unless it's console counterparts are equally good it doesn't matter.

Someone was going onto me about "Sonic hasn't had a good game in ages" to which I said "well Sonic Rush on the DS was pretty good." and he flat out said "handhelds don't count."

This is ironic as currently the top selling game system isn't a console, it's the DS. Even during the Gamecube years, everyone was convinced Nintendo was done and never mind that GBAs sold like crazy and the original Gameboy outlasted every competitor that went against it.

The DS has plenty of "shovelware" and "evil" casual games and yet no one seems to accuse it of destroying gaming. Nor was there the horrid backlash for Nintendogs or Brain Age like there was for Wii Fit or Wii Music. Odd isnt' it?

Actually, I prefer handheld gaming to console gaming, and I was hoping for a good DS/PSP title. Also, the 3DS and it's slated lineup plus some of the DS games mentioned at E3 have me more excited than a lot of the console games that were announced.

Well don't feel bad for the handhelds, E3 still showed off several good DS games like Golden Sun and Dragon Quest IV (oh and don't get me started on the people who thought it was stupid that the 9th installment of that series was on a handheld and not a console. At least #10 is planned for the Wii). At the start of its life cycle everyone saw it as a gimmick as well and now it's the console to own for RPGs. Personally as the DS goes I'm excited for both Okamiden and Super Scribblenauts.

And though we're getting off topic, it is a shame that for whatever reason handhelds are never accorded the same rights. Handheld games rarely get nominated for Game of the Year awards and almost never win. Though last year I remember hearing how one outlet gave Scribblenauts best game of E3 which was a big deal because it was the first time in like, ever that a handheld game won the award.

Well don't feel bad for the handhelds, E3 still showed off several good DS games like Golden Sun and Dragon Quest IV (oh and don't get me started on the people who thought it was stupid that the 9th installment of that series was on a handheld and not a console. At least #10 is planned for the Wii). At the start of its life cycle everyone saw it as a gimmick as well and now it's the console to own for RPGs. Personally as the DS goes I'm excited for both Okamiden and Super Scribblenauts.

And though we're getting off topic, it is a shame that for whatever reason handhelds are never accorded the same rights. Handheld games rarely get nominated for Game of the Year awards and almost never win. Though last year I remember hearing how one outlet gave Scribblenauts best game of E3 which was a big deal because it was the first time in like, ever that a handheld game won the award.

kbaily