My Sonic Adventure rant

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#1 deactivated-5b7a4a209ddaf
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Yes, I'm attacking again one of Sonic most beloved games. Sonic Adventure is the first Sonic platformer fully on 3D. Many people call this the "best Sonic game on 3D" or the best Sonic game. While I think it was a good start on 3D, I think it got too many flaws to be considered such a wonderful experience.

The first thing I knew it was wrong was the voice acting, the most dreadful you can hear on a Sonic game (if we don't count Sonic Schoolhouse). With lame dialogues and poor voice acting that will make cry any Satam lover to see what happened to Sonic and friends voices. The only one tolerable was Robotniks one. Then, you got a hubworld, that tries to compete with Mario 64 Princess Peach castle. And it fails in a an almost epic way. Face it hubworlds fans, at least 90% of the members on this union hates them. But, it could be forgiven the first time, right? but it doesn't end here. Here you not only have 1 character to play with, not 3 but 6 playable ones. The only stages you will replay for the fun factor are Sonic and maybe Tails ones. Knuckles and Gamma ones are allright, but nothing really memorable. And then you got one of Sonic biggest tortures even nowadays with bad titles like Shadow and Next Gen, Big and Amy stages. Amy is painfully slow and boring, anyone would wish to be Sonic at this times. And then, Big fishing stages are the worst thing that could happen to a Sonic game without measurement errors ever, permanent. Theres no way you can like them, if so, you seriously need to go to an asylum, they are that bad.

The game also features the exta objectives on a stage for the first time. While they add some replay value, they aren't very special. The boss battles were mostly lame, excluding the Egg Viper, all incredibly easy. They are also 2 very important problems with the game that appears on most of the stages.

1- The camera: very bad, and being the first Sonic game on 3D isn't the big excuse. I didn't see Mario 64 having the same problem and it is the first Mario game on 3D and on a less powerful console.

2-Glitches: I may be wrong here since I played the Gamecube version, but I found some annoying glitches along the level that killed me plenty of times. Again, being the first one on 3D isn't a big excuse for this problem.

By no mean Sonic Adventure is a bad game. But, its far from being the masterpiece many call to be and far away from being the best Sonic game (on 3D, yes, but thats more of an opinion)

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#2 RidersInThe-Sky
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Ok has the overrated fad honestly come to the point where we have to rant against games we actually like. No, Sonic Adventure isn't perfect and no, it never was but if you like it so much why does that matter? If the game is fun on some level, who cares if it's overrated, just play it and live with it.
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#3 macrules_640
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I do agree with you mostly, but hey Sonic Adventure was still much better than the games now.

 

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#4 koolkat14
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No game was too perfect or too horrible even if it got a perfect score
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#5 deactivated-5b7a4a209ddaf
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I do agree with you mostly, but hey Sonic Adventure was still much better than the games now.

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thats not very hard to do.
I should have said that this is also my opinion. The guy that thinks Sonic CD is overrated, the one that prefers Heroes over the Adventures and actually don't like Sonic 2 music (with 3 little exceptions)

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#6 Cloud_765
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I do agree with you mostly, but hey Sonic Adventure was still much better than the games now.

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Not necessarily. The Advance and the Rush titles were also great, and IMO if Marine wasn't thrown in during Rush Adventure, it would easily have been the very best Neo Sonic game. It had a great story, new mechanics that actually worked and were fun to play, and old mechanics worked both functionally and entertaining.

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#7 macrules_640
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Yeah the Rush series was pretty good, but Marine kinda screwed the game up for me.

 

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Ah, yes, random deaths thanks to clipping issues. I was always sad that I could never make full use of the spindash for fear of dying...
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#9 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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Yeah, here's my experience with Sonic Adventure:

1. play through the game with Sonic.

2. skip all the other characters and make sure my save file stays intact.

3. if I feel like playing Sonic adventure, just go to time trial mode.

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#10 sonictrainer
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It did introduce Chao to the series.
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#11 kbaily
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I never thought Sonic Adventure was that great either. Then again I played it years later when it was ported to the Gamecube instead of when it was shiny and new on the Dreamcast. I just often say that it didn't age well.
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certain kinds of games age better than others. 2D games for the most part age much better than 3D ones but there are some developers out there that have a knack for making games that are still just as cool and just as fun now as they were on the older systems generations ago. The original Crash and Spyro games come to mind as well as Mario 64.

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#13 kbaily
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Even Screwattack when they originally picked Sonic Adventure as one of their picks for the best Sonic game, later they went back and said they reviewed them again and realized that Sonic Adventure 2 was better primarily because it didn't have Big the Cat and that they liked the story of that one better so it was chosen for their best Dreamcast games list.

Also the Chao garden was better in SA2 as a fun distraction and added some longevity to the game if you were into that sort of thing. In SA2 you could use them in races and karate though it would've been better if you actually had some control over them instead of just cheering. That was a great little thing and I wish they would bring that back as just an extra.

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Even Screwattack when they originally picked Sonic Adventure as one of their picks for the best Sonic game, later they went back and said they reviewed them again and realized that Sonic Adventure 2 was better primarily because it didn't have Big the Cat and that they liked the story of that one better so it was chosen for their best Dreamcast games list.

Also the Chao garden was better in SA2 as a fun distraction and added some longevity to the game if you were into that sort of thing. In SA2 you could use them in races and karate though it would've been better if you actually had some control over them instead of just cheering. That was a great little thing and I wish they would bring that back as just an extra.

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remembers me I rarely go to the chao garden on the first adventure. Probably because I need to go to the hubworld (which I hate) and enter the hotel. On the second one you can find a chao key and acces after finishing the stage, or select it one the map. So much better.

I would also remark the voice acting isn't so crappy as on the first one. It is still a bit cheesy, but at least 1000 times better than the original

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#15 macrules_640
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Heck the voice acting in SA 2 beats out the voice acting in the newer Sonic games.

 

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#16 lanmanna
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Why don't people like the hub in SA?
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#18 kbaily
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Why don't people like the hub in SA?lanmanna

Because there isn't much to them. It's not like it's a massive sprawling world like in Zelda or the GTA games. All they serve to a way to get from point A to point B. There's not much to do aside from wander around looking for hidden emblems and go to the Chao garden. As crappy as it was Next Gen had a much more open world to explore or at least run around in.

Plus exploration gameplay doesn't work for Sonic as hard as Sega tries to force it on him. Sonic is about speed, not about wandering around town talking to people to pick up useless crap.