Sonic and the Black Knight Characters.

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#1 kbaily
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This youtube vid appeared and looks pretty legit mainly because we have seen screens of Knuckles already and the pic here looks the same, but the vid shows what Shadow, Knuckles, Tails, and Amy look like in this game. As with Secret Rings since it is sort of Sonic in a dream based on the book he's reading, they play as characters from the story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiMBaJCBuQ0&feature=channel_page

So far it does appear that only Shadow and Knuckles are playable besides Sonic despite the post on Wikipedia saying Blaze was playable (it's Wikipedia after all and subject to changes). Tails appears to be a blacksmith of sorts who probably upgrades weapons and from the rumors I heard, Amy plays the Lady of the Lake though I like her design.

These pics look to be out of a magazine and so far, Knuckles looks the coolest. I also posted this link in the main thread.

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Can't they just make one Sonic game that doesn't invovle these characters and just let it focus on Sonic. I mean Mario games you don't see them in Mario games.
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#3 kbaily
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Can't they just make one Sonic game that doesn't invovle these characters and just let it focus on Sonic. I mean Mario games you don't see them in Mario games.chocolate1325

Both Super Mario Bros 2 and Super Paper Mario, had you playing as other Mario characters, but the problem is there's the idiot Sonic fan fringe that obsesses over these characters and thinks if you don't play as 27 different "blank the animals" the game is dull and boring. Though the same idiot fans who complain about a game where only Sonic is playable are the same ones who go on about how awesome Shadow's game was even though you only played as one character there. Which should be a strong indicator that all those newbie Sonic fans are chimps with down syndrome.

I still hope that what I heard is true and that this game takes a cue from Sonic Advance and make it so you can choose who you can play with and not be forced to play through the same stages over and over again just to complete the game. Giving players the choice of who to play as, makes both sides happy (see my Sonic Advance 3 review). Old schoolers can play just as Sonic while new schoolers can play as whatever obnoxious friend they want.

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#4 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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why is this not in the sticky?
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#5 kbaily
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why is this not in the sticky?whoozwah

It's there too.

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#6 chocolate1325
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I am probably gonna wait a while for this game so I can get it at a dropped price.
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I am probably gonna wait a while for this game so I can get it at a dropped price.chocolate1325

Now you're thinking like me chocolate. I rarely pay full price for a Sonic game nowadays with the exception of Sonic Rush Adventure and Sonic and the Secret Rings. One I paid full price for because I knew it was good and the other which was decent was mainly because I had finished Super Paper Mario and needed something to tie me over until Metroid Prime 3.

If I do buy Black Knight, I'll wait until I have some games to trade in towards it.

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Well March is a busy month for me with games but I will see how this game ends up. I mean I will try it to see if its any good but not for a while.
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#9 mariomario987
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if i dont feel confident about a game, i will wait for it to be cheaper. that way if the game isnt good at least i payed what the game is actually worth. sonic and the black knight is one of those games.
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#10 chocolate1325
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I finally realised that now thanks kbaily. I will probably wait about 2 months at least anyway because I am a bit busy with other games anyway.
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Same here, Chocolate. Not only am I occupied with GameCube games, I'm also fed up with paying fifty bucks for software that'll inevitably drop to twenty later on. I'll probably pick up Rhythm Heaven and Klonoa Wii at launch, but Black Knight won't see much of me at its premiere.

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I'm in the same boat as most of you but I get this feeling that had Unleashed turned out better, we (me at least) would be more apt to get it sooner.
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#13 chocolate1325
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I will get it eventually but just not straight away there are a few other games I need to play.
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Can't they just make one Sonic game that doesn't involve these characters and just let it focus on Sonic? I mean Mario games you don't see them in Mario games.chocolate1325

Are you kidding? There are a lot of Mario games where Mario isn't the only playable character.

And besides, you can choose who you want to play as.

And I believe Sonic Unleashed just focused on Sonic. Though you could argue the majority of the game was the Werehog, but it's still Sonic.

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There's only two actual Mario platformers (not counting RPGs, Party, Sports or racing games) where you didn't just play as Mario.

Super Mario Bros. 2: This wasn't even an actual Mario game if you know the backstory. The Japanese SMB2 was thought to be too hard for stupid American audiences so Miyamoto's other game Doki Doki Panic was revamped and put in Toad, Luigi and Peach but here's the thing YOU WEREN"T FORCED TO PLAY AS THEM. You could play that entire game as Mario if you liked, plus they all controlled the same way with just variations in the jumping, running and throwing abilities.

Super Paper Mario: It plays more like a platformer than an RPG and this one allows you to switch between Mario, Peach, Bowser and Luigi but you still spent the majority of the game as Mario because of his flipping technique.

I will forgive Black Knight for not forcing us to play as the friends. That's what made the Sonic Advance series good. But they still might pull a trick in that you can just play as Sonic, but then throw in that "if you want to see the final ending you have to play as everyone crap" that started way back in Sonic Adventure.

One last thing, the MAIN Mario games never:

You never had to fish for a frog.

You never had to slog along in a clunky mech.

You never had to search for hours with innacurate radar finding stupid sh--.

And most of all, no Mario character ever picked up a gun and started cursing and acting like an angst c---!

Also the thing some of you idiot Sonic fans don't seem to grasp is that SONIC IS ABOUT SPEED!! The funnest part of Sonic games is running fast through a great platforming level. The slower elements would've been ok but they're not that fun and I'm willing to bet if these recent games didn't have Sonic in them, you'd probably agree.

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Playing as other characters is boring only Sonic is fun. SEGA need to understand this. No werehog,no guns,no emerald finding or flying in a mech. Just fast Sonic levels and thats it.
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Playing as other characters is boring only Sonic is fun. SEGA need to understand this. No werehog,no guns,no emerald finding or flying in a mech. Just fast Sonic levels and thats it.chocolate1325

 

it'll never happen. No matter how much we say it, no matter how badly sonic games get reviewed because of that very reason, it'll never happen.

 

The first playthough will always suck and playing the 2-5 actually good stages in the game will always be the only fun part.  

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Unfortunately for us, SEGA has too much of an audience to lose if they start appealing to older fans who just want Sonic.

It's hard to say exactly what caused younger players to become most of the fanbase (and people who are just stupid in general).

On an on-topic related note, the March issue Nintendo Power review has confirmed Blaze to be a playable character. Why Sonic Team is so reluctant to show us screenshots I'll never know.

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Who called it? Oh that's right Wikipedia... Sorry just had to.
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Here's Blaze's picture:

Well Sega finds themselves in a sticky situation in that it's impossible to please old and new school fans and that happened they day they thought having six playable characters in Sonic Adventure was a good idea, however there is a way to please both sides and the key word is OPTIONAL. Most agree that if Sega is going to make Sonic's friend's playable 1) don't force us to play as them just so we can finish the game. 2) Let them run fast like Sonic. They can still have their own abilities, but don't slow them down to a crawl. Don't make them do stupid crap like throwing ring boxes, driving cars, shooting guns, hunting for emeralds and especially not fishing. Look at Sonic Advance. All of Sonic's friends run fast while still retaining their own abilities and you aren't forced to play as each one through the same levels just to finish the game. Why the console games can't get this through their minds is a mystery.

Though in the end, if you're one of those whiny tweeners who has a hissy fit and immediately boycotts any game that (insert Sonic friend here) isn't playable, I think the fanbase is better off without them. I think Sega can afford to lose a few tweeners if it means getting back the fans of old and having a newer Sonic game that gets the same numbers as Mario's games.

FYI go to the official site for this game and you'll see that both Silver and Jet are in the game too though I assume as playable characters for the multiplayer mode.

http://www.sega.com/sonicblackknight/us/index.html

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#21 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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this looks to be becoming more and more of a rental to me...
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#22 Shadow_of_Kirby
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Dood.

He's a Jedi.

I mean, he already has telekenetic powers. Tack a sword on top of that and...

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Dood.

He's a Jedi.

I mean, he already has telekenetic powers. Tack a sword on top of that and...

Shadow_of_Kirby

The Force is with him.

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#24 sonicphc
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Wait, this game comes out tomorrow? Way to pay attention, sonicphc. On the plus, ppl can go about confirming all of these rumors for us shortly.
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#25 Cloud_765
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I agree we should be able to play as SOME characters, and I like that they're all optional. Because, as I said in the SATBK official thread, being able to play as a small multitude of characters isn't bad if they are optional. It stops the whiny "I want only Sonic" fans from complaining and the just as whiny "I wanna play as everybody" fans from whining.
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#26 kbaily
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I agree we should be able to play as SOME characters, and I like that they're all optional. Because, as I said in the SATBK official thread, being able to play as a small multitude of characters isn't bad if they are optional. It stops the whiny "I want only Sonic" fans from complaining and the just as whiny "I wanna play as everybody" fans from whining.Cloud_765

Well IGN has their review up for "Black Knight" and not surprise it only got a 3/10 mainly, unlike Unleashed which was the latest attempt to "revive" Sonic, BK seems to be nothing more than a fan game. Graphics are nice, but that's about it. The main story, you just play as Sonic and Blaze, Shadow and Knuckles are extras once you finish the main quest with Sonic so you aren't forced to play as them but am I the only one not surprised by the low score? From the first picture of Sonic holding a sword I knew it was going to get slammed.

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#27 Cloud_765
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I had a feeling it'd get slammed, but for some reason had faith that it might be a little bit better than expected and recieve better scores than a 6 or 6.5. From the first sight of the box art, I had a feeling the score Game Informer will give it: 4.5 or 5. I'm a subscriber, so I'll be getting the newest issue (in which BK's review should be in) within 10-12 more days. I'll reserve my judgement on whether it's worth looking at until seeing both the GS and GI reviews.
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#28 deactivated-5c35826ea3913
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rent. rent. rent....if that.

All eyes on Prope. 

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#29 chocolate1325
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I am not intrested that much in the game.
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#30 deactivated-59be76f5a5388
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I'll probably buy it anyway. Just so all optimism caused by the day stages in Unleashed can be eradicated.
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#31 Cloud_765
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It annoys me that so many people complain about the fact that the standards for a Sonic game isn't met, and I guess this game's a prime example.
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#32 kbaily
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Just seeing this really makes me think that Sega really didn't care much with this title like they did with Unleashed. I mean they spent a lot of time hyping it and showing off videos and doing promotions where this one was like "meh, we'll throw it out there and make some quick fan cash cause Shadow's playable in this."
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#33 kjhg53
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Darn me and my will to buy games even if I have no moeny... yeah I'll pick it up >.< but later this month when i have a bit more cash. i can't rent the game cause my family just doesn't do that any more but I told my self when it was comeing out it will get slammed but I hoped that it would be good.