SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4: Episode 1 Official Thread

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#1 CrimsonMaher
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It's finally here a teaser and the announcement for SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4 I have tears in my eyes!!! FINALLY SONIC IS BACK!!!

A portion of a GameSpot interview with Sega associate brand manager Ken Balough...

GS: Will there be any differences between the different versions? That is, will the Wii have motion control, or will the PS3 and 360 run at 1080p?

KB: For all intents and purposes, the games are designed to be identical. There are a few differences per what each console can output visually: Wii will be at 480p, while the XBLA and PSN versions will run at 1080p. However, for certain areas of the game, the Wii will be able to use motion control, and the PS3 will be able to use the Sixaxis.

Official site here

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/projectneedlemouse/news.html?sid=6249445&tag=topslot;thumb;1&mode=previews

Rejoice Wii owners, you didn't not get left out in the cold. Sega wasn't stupid after all.

More details:

-this game is downloadable

-this game is 2D with 3D elements

-Sonic can do a homing attack

-there will be leaderboards

-this game will be the start of a series of Episodic games

-this game will available on all consoles including Wiiware

-it comes out this summer

Plus, there's a website:

http://www.sega.com/sonic4/us/index.html

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#2 dandymarsh
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I just realised that too. I ignored it on Google Reader! Article posted.
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#3 sonichedgehog45
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i know!!! i ji.zzed my pants out of joy when i heard!!!!! all together now SEGAAAA!!!
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#4 kbaily
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About damn time we get an actual annoucement and even better they were smart and didn't slight the Wii owners. Though I still think instead of this episodic crap they should just combine the eps into one game and release it as a disc (not to say that wouldn't happen down the road).
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#5 chocolate1325
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It's like I have gone back in time.
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#6 kbaily
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Just so everyone knows this is the official thread now so all other "Needlemouse" releated threads are locked now. All updates and comments regarding this should go to this thread now.
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#7 TQ_NintyNoE
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I hope to god that they put in some original sounding music, and I'd love a similar title-theme rendition, like the old style games. I think it being on the Wii is going to be fantastic, and of course, with a lower resolution, it'll probably feel a lot more like a classic game too, as stupid as that sounds.
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#8 dalejrgamer
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Oh...****...yes.
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#9 PyreofKoL
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Heck freaking YES! This looks like it's going to be AWESOME!
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#10 Chaos_master412
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it looks so ****ing awesome. i'm so happy i could cry...
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#11 sonictrainer
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Now, I wonder whether the names of the levels rumor is correct...
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#12 chocolate1325
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This is gonna be an instant download.
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#13 gamerguy456
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theres more on the way according to the website there will be more news tomorrow
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#14 sonichedgehog45
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ok, but lets all be sure not to get to ahead of ourselves now. dont wanna start the 2010 sonic cycle now do we:P
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I shat myself.
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#16 dalejrgamer
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ok, but lets all be sure not to get to ahead of ourselves now. dont wanna start the 2010 sonic cycle now do we:Psonichedgehog45

This has no werehogs and playable friends (who are suitable as acting as Kyle Busch's rear bumper...lol did u c wat i did thar?)...so far.

I hope to God that SEGA doesn't send this down the "let's kill this game so we can make a trizillion dollars!" path.

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#17 mariostar0001
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It isn't perfect though, no Tails. Or Knuckles. However, it's being released for Wii, PS3, X360, and ??? according to the official site.
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#18 mariostar0001
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Bad news. http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/ That link takes you to the Sonic site, where you can click on characters for two choices, Sonic, and ??? who could it be? Scary.
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#19 mariostar0001
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It'll be announced in 04:18:10:49, which I believe is 4 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 49 seconds as it is ticking down by the second.
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#20 dalejrgamer
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Anyone willing to put down $10 that it's Tails?

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#21 mariostar0001
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If it's Tails, all's well and good, he belongs with Sonic if Sonic just went Death Egg hunting. If it's a joke to be played on us, then I'll laugh. If it's Knuckles, I'll say where's Tails. If it's Metal Sonic, I'll say what? If it's anyone else, I'll go crazy.
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Anyone willing to put down $10 that it's Tails?

dalejrgamer

you are wrong, its going to be the new uneccesary character, Mr Needlemouse

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From the Characters Section of the site:

Sonic

"Our Legendary hero returns! With the Death Egg finally destroyed, and Angel Island back in the sky, Sonic decides it's time to take a break and heads off to explore a new territory on his own. However unbeknownst to Sonic, Eggman has also survived their last encounter, and has begun taking measures to rid himself of our hero. Armed with his signature Speed, super Spin Dash - and powerful Homing Attack, Sonic is read for an all-new adventure!"

???

"Who could it be now?"

I'm guessly a new character, Eggman, or Nac/Fang.

Also, according to the countdowns, here are the days info will be released:

Tommorrow, next Tuesday, and the 18th.

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#24 sonichedgehog45
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i say the ??? character is eggman
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#25 mariostar0001
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Eggman the villain. It works.
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#26 sonictrainer
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Or Metal Sonic.....O_O
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Metal Sonic would be consistent with the plot from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Sonic never actually destroys it, but rather disables it, and it got supercharged and then disabled again when Knuckles played through. Makes sense.
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I can't see it being Knuckles but Tails possibly. Have him follow Sonic like he did in Sonic 2 but I think it will be Dr Robotnik.
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This is the moment we've all been waiting for... And I think I just... yes I did...

Being a gamer has not made me so excited in a while. I have New Super Mario Bros. Wii and this to look forward to getting. *pets Wii*

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#30 Darkmoone1
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Only thing that bothers me is the homing attack. It's like auto aim on a FPS: not necessary. Hope it is removable. Anyway, I am jumping for joy and glad Sega thought for once.
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#31 mariostar0001
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What's wrong with homing attack? It's saved my life a few time in Rush, just like Blaze's hover.
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#32 sonichedgehog45
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i think the homing attack is a good addition.
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yes i dnt have a problem with the homing attack either ive seen on the gamefaqs boards. a some complaining about the fact that the homing attack is included but i dnt know if they r for real or if its sarcasm
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yes i dnt have a problem with the homing attack either ive seen on the gamefaqs boards. a some complaining about the fact that the homing attack is included but i dnt know if they r for real or if its sarcasmgamerguy456

Never go to the Sonic GameFAQ boards. Everyday is a different argument there.

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#35 marsh9812
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idk about eggman. but if it is him he has to be in his flying thing
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I'm thinking the "???" will be either Eggman or they'll start listing badniks. Doubt it will be Tails or Knuckles since they said Sonic only. I am kind of hoping for Tails and Knuckles to show up in later episodes though.

 

And I don't mind the homing attack being in. I mean if you want to get technical you could use the homing attack in Sonic 3D Blast with the help of a shield. And that game did appear for the Genesis so it's still totally retro! If people really don't like it then don't press the jump button again after your in the air.

 

Also since this takes place after S3&K and the speed sneakers power up was mentioned I'm really hoping for the elemental Shields to make a return. I miss those things.

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[QUOTE="gamerguy456"]yes i dnt have a problem with the homing attack either ive seen on the gamefaqs boards. a some complaining about the fact that the homing attack is included but i dnt know if they r for real or if its sarcasmsonictrainer

Never go to the Sonic GameFAQ boards. Everyday is a different argument there.

i know i just wanted to see reactions and apparently some are still not pleased

for me this is fine besides ive always thought it should be a 3D sidescroller but ive also heard complaints like " oh its not exactly like the genesis games"

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Though I still think instead of this episodic crap they should just combine the eps into one game and release it as a disc (not to say that wouldn't happen down the road).kbaily

agreed and I almost think I should wait for a good bit after it's released to see if that really happens

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#39 dandymarsh
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The Japanese site is up and it's just as spiffy. It hits you on the head with a spiffy (alleged. I think it'll make a great) intro bgm. I didn't hear it on the trailers. Or maybe I missed it. The JP page loads the mp3, found here (loads the mp3)
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#40 kbaily
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[QUOTE="kbaily"]Though I still think instead of this episodic crap they should just combine the eps into one game and release it as a disc (not to say that wouldn't happen down the road).whoozwah

agreed and I almost think I should wait for a good bit after it's released to see if that really happens

Happy, now Whoozwah, you old crumugeon? A Sonic game you can't whine about. No cutscenes, no hubworlds, no gimmicks and hopefully no Crush 40 cock rock.

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#41 chocolate1325
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Whats the big deal with this episode thing didn't Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles have it.
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#42 dandymarsh
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Well on the plus side, episodes "prolong" the game and make you want to wait for the next one (if done right). On the down side, it makes you impatient and you go around stomping on the floor wanting more Sonic 4. But if the whole game came in one piece, you'll probably zip by the levels, probably play it again but get tired of it real fast (possibly). It's a marketing strategy.
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#43 kbaily
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Whats the big deal with this episode thing didn't Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles have it.chocolate1325

And S3+K was more of an expansion pack than episodic content. But I found this vid from a user who was basicallly telling everyone to chill out regarding the game and he made some good points.

http://screwattack.com/videos/Sonic-4-and-how-to-RELAX

I really don't get the whining about "it should have old school graphics." There's no need for that. Megaman 9 did the NES graphics sure, but that really was a novelty and there's no reason for them to not use at least 16 bit sprites for Megaman 10 now. New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Contra 4 and other 2D revamps had updated graphics so there's no reason for Sonic 4 to not use modern graphics. Doing new game with retro graphics is just a gimmick.

Of course I can't wait for the nooby neo Sonic fans to show up and immediately boycott the game:

News from Bizarro Sonic fanland: "Neo Sonic fans are outraged that Sega is trying to appeal to a mainstream audience with Sonic the Hedgehog 4 saying that "Sonic was best when he was in 3D on the dying Sega Dreamcast and that more people would play modern Sonic games if game critics stopped being so biased and that modern Sonic games have stories rivaling that of Hollywood's greatest films. One fan had this to say:

"Sure having sidescrolling 2D platforming like the handheld games is fine but where's the heavy handed message and overly long cutscenes about friendship and teamwork. You just go from one level to the next without knowing the motivation or plight of Sonic."

Other fans are outraged at the lack of a ton of playable friends as teased early on by Sega in an image only to be eliminated later on. "Silver was such a fasicnating character and it would be nice to learn about his backstory."

Further outrage erupted over the lack of any sort of gimmick: "Sonic just running through 2D levels? That's boring. Who wants to do that except stupid old school gamers? Where's the hub world where you can do mindless fetch quests? Where's the slower, alternate forms, the hoverboards and why can't Sonic have a weapon again? Why would Sega abandon all those great gameplay ideas just for high speed, 2D platforming?"

Sega recently released a statement saying that they plan to realease Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Noob Edition that will feature a hub world, Shadow, Silver, Big, Espio, Jet and Blaze as alternate characters as well as 20 hours worth of cutscenes along with the ability to create your own character to play with so those fans can finally play as their crappy fanmade characters.

That's all the news from Bizarro Sonic fanland for now.

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Intro Section was added to the main site. Although the pictures don't match up with the captions:

"Story thus far:

It began as Sonic's animal friends begin disappearing from South Island. Soon Sonic discovers that evil scientist Dr. Eggman has been kidnapping them and turning them into robots to collect the legendary treasure - The Chaos Emeralds. Sonic decides it's up to him to save them and embarks on a quest to free his animal friends. Sonic battles Eggman through many different zones. Sonic eventually pursues Eggman to Final Zone where the first in many epic battles between them begins. In the end Sonic is victorious and Eggman's Mecha fly's away badly damaged. Sonic returns to Green Hill Zone and re-unites with his friends.

Their reunion is short lived however, as Eggman resurfaces and begins kidnapping Sonic friends again, in an effort to create more workers to finish his ultimate Weapon - The Death Egg! Teaming up with the newly met, Miles 'Tails' Prower, Sonic embarks on a new mission through West Side Island in an effort to free his friends and ensure Eggman does not obtain the 7 Chaos emeralds to fuel the Death Egg.

Once the West Side Island is freed, Sonic and Tails eventually board the Tornado and assault the Death Egg itself. After destroying Mecha Sonic, Eggman flees and enters his new Eggman Robot attacking Sonic! After a heated battle Sonic destroys the Eggman Robot and the Death Egg begins to explode.

onic and Tails fly down and come across mysterious island called Angel Island. This island is floating by the power of the precious stone called Master Emerald, but now this mysterious island are dropping down to the ocean surface because the Death Egg had been falling on this island. Sonic and Tails are attacked by a Red Echidna named Knuckles the guardian of the island.

Knuckles steals the Chaos emeralds from Sonic, being tricked by Eggman that he is an enemy come to take the Master Emerald.While Sonic and Tails are entangled by Knuckles, Eggman repairs the Death Egg and preps it for launch.

Sonic manages to jump on Death Egg just as it's flying off. After confronting Eggman on the Death Egg, Sonic defeats Eggman once more and the Death Egg plummets back to Angel Island.

Back on the ground Dr. Eggman begins the repairing Death Egg again. Feeling Knuckles has served his purpose, he sends EggRobo to eliminate this potential threat. EggRobo finds Knuckles relaxing in Mushroom Zone and drops a bomb on him but Knuckles manages to survive. Enraged, the Wild Echidna sets off to defeat EggRobo. Meanwhile Sonic and Tails explore the island to find traces of the Death Egg and find out Eggman's fate. After and Epic showdown between Sonic and Knuckles, Eggman uses the opportunity to finally steal the Master Emerald and re-launches the Death Egg. With the power of the emeralds, Sonic goes after Eggman, who has taken the Master Emerald into space.

onic and Tails secure the Master Emerald and return it to Knuckles on Angel Island. With it's power restored, the Angel Island lifts off into the sky as Sonic and Tails fly off into the sunset.

But this humiliating defeat only serves to further Eggman's rage, and he has determined once and for all to rid himself of Sonic. Eggman revisits - and improves - the very best of his creations to defeat our spiked hero.

And so a new Adventure begins..."

With this I can conclude Metal Sonic is making a comeback.

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Of course I can't wait for the nooby neo Sonic fans to show up and immediately boycott the game:

News from Bizarro Sonic fanland: "Neo Sonic fans are outraged that Sega is trying to appeal to a mainstream audience with Sonic the Hedgehog 4 saying that "Sonic was best when he was in 3D on the dying Sega Dreamcast and that more people would play modern Sonic games if game critics stopped being so biased and that modern Sonic games have stories rivaling that of Hollywood's greatest films. One fan had this to say:

"Sure having sidescrolling 2D platforming like the handheld games is fine but where's the heavy handed message and overly long cutscenes about friendship and teamwork. You just go from one level to the next without knowing the motivation or plight of Sonic."

Other fans are outraged at the lack of a ton of playable friends as teased early on by Sega in an image only to be eliminated later on. "Silver was such a fasicnating character and it would be nice to learn about his backstory."

Further outrage erupted over the lack of any sort of gimmick: "Sonic just running through 2D levels? That's boring. Who wants to do that except stupid old school gamers? Where's the hub world where you can do mindless fetch quests? Where's the slower, alternate forms, the hoverboards and why can't Sonic have a weapon again? Why would Sega abandon all those great gameplay ideas just for high speed, 2D platforming?"

Sega recently released a statement saying that they plan to realease Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Noob Edition that will feature a hub world, Shadow, Silver, Big, Espio, Jet and Blaze as alternate characters as well as 20 hours worth of cutscenes along with the ability to create your own character to play with so those fans can finally play as their crappy fanmade characters.

That's all the news from Bizarro Sonic fanland for now.

kbaily

Obviously, those fans aren't born in the early 90s, where things are, you know, good (NASCAR, the NES, Power Rangers, etc.)

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#46 mariostar0001
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Metal Sonic return? Cool, if it's real.
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the game looka great so far. the only even small flaw i can find is the running animation and since this was just a teaser theres a good chance they will fix it. sonic the hedgehog 4 looks great.
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#48 marsh9812
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i dont get y people want shadow or silver in this game. sega said it was right after sonic 3 right? so if thats true y include other characters
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#49 kbaily
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I wrote an email to my idol, Sean Malestrom of whom I've posted links to articles before. This isn't the first email of mine he's responded to mind you but he was a big supporter of New Super Mario Bros. Wii and explaining why a lot of gamers like 2D Mario better than 3D Mario. A few pages back there's an email titled "Nintendo shows Sega the way" where a user asks why can't Sega make a Sonic game like NSMBWii? to which Malestrom said that Sega didn't want to make 2D Sonic and would rather put all the developement dollars into things like Madworld and "Sara Palin May Cry" aka Bayoneta as opposed to making games their old school fans wanted. Here's that article:

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/email-nintendo-shows-sega-the-way/

Of course when Sonic the Hedgehog 4 was finally announced I decided to write to him and ask his thoughts on this new title. And his response was similar to that of a lot of fans.

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/02/05/email-sonic-the-hedgehog-4/

He agrees that Sega should've released this as a full disc game and he doesn't get the whole "episodic approach" and the focus on story. Old Sonic games had little to no story and aside from the fanatics who write Sonic fanfiction and make characters, who really plays Sonic soley for the story?

I like Malestrom's articles, you don't always have to agree with everything but the articles make you think.

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#50 dalejrgamer
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i dont get y people want shadow or silver in this game. sega said it was right after sonic 3 right? so if thats true y include other charactersmarsh9812

Because they're idiots?