You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choice
I'm willing to bet that your friend says the Sonic levels suck because he doesn't have very good reflexes or memorization skills. Otherwise he'd realize that the Sonic levels wipe the floor with the Werehog levels.
He probably never played a Sonic game before especially not the old school ones. I mean look at how many noobs show up here going on about how much fun playing as Knuckles and slower characters is.
Well the answer's pretty obvious here, although I really didn't think the night levels were as terrible as some seem to say.GabuEx
I agree. Perhaps it's because I long so much for decent 3D platformers that I actually didn't mind the werehog levels so much (finally got the game for Christmas). I think if Banjo: Nuts and Bolts had been an actual platforming game instead of a driving game, I might have not been so forgiving of the werehog stages.
I agree. Perhaps it's because I long so much for decent 3D platformers that I actually didn't mind the werehog levels so much (finally got the game for Christmas). I think if Banjo: Nuts and Bolts had been an actual platforming game instead of a driving game, I might have not been so forgiving of the werehog stages.
kbaily
Well I think that is one of the problems: from what I've seen, people seem to kind of have a narrow view of what Sonic "should be". Me, I personally just take games for what they are and the enjoyment you can derive from them.
I can certainly see why someone would be dreadfully repulsed by the werehog stages if they went into Sonic Unleashed going, "Okay now here's SONIC and he GOES FAST so this game is all about GOING FAST right?"
I agree. Perhaps it's because I long so much for decent 3D platformers that I actually didn't mind the werehog levels so much (finally got the game for Christmas). I think if Banjo: Nuts and Bolts had been an actual platforming game instead of a driving game, I might have not been so forgiving of the werehog stages.
GabuEx
Well I think that is one of the problems: from what I've seen, people seem to kind of have a narrow view of what Sonic "should be". Me, I personally just take games for what they are and the enjoyment you can derive from them.
I can certainly see why someone would be dreadfully repulsed by the werehog stages if they went into Sonic Unleashed going, "Okay now here's SONIC and he GOES FAST so this game is all about GOING FAST right?"
You know, your timing on everything is awfully convenient, considering I JUST rewrote my Sonic Spinball review for the Genesis (see other topic) and I JUST wrote one of my rants on the issue of people claiming Sonic should be just about speed.
You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choicegamemanyeah
[QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choiceDarkSmokeNinja
Thats a big-fat joke:roll:
[QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choiceDarkSmokeNinja
[QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choiceDarkSmokeNinja
Thats a big-fat joke:roll:
[QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choiceDarkSmokeNinja
[QUOTE="DarkSmokeNinja"][QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choicegamemanyeah
Thats a big-fat joke:roll:
[QUOTE="gamemanyeah"]You see my best friend plays my sonic unleashed game and he saids "the werehog is awsome. The gameplay cool. Sonic levels suck. Yeah" I need your help with your choiceDarkSmokeNinja
I will say if Unleashed got one thing right is that the daytime levels are some of the best 3D Sonic levels in recent memory. They are how Sonic should play in 3D. The controls are tight. When I nudge the left analog stick slightly Sonic moves slightly to the left instead of careening off the side. Also Sega finally lashed that epileptic camera down (though I hated not being able to move it around in the werehog stages).
Everytime I started to tire of the werehog, I'd just go back and play the day stages again, trying to find the hidden extras.
I will say if Unleashed got one thing right is that the daytime levels are some of the best 3D Sonic levels in recent memory. They are how Sonic should play in 3D. The controls are tight. When I nudge the left analog stick slightly Sonic moves slightly to the left instead of careening off the side. Also Sega finally lashed that epileptic camera down (though I hated not being able to move it around in the werehog stages).
kbaily
The one thing I didn't like was the whole B + direction thing for quickly zipping to the side. I found that part kinda flaky; sometimes it seemed not to work at all when I wanted it to.
The one thing I didn't like was the whole B + direction thing for quickly zipping to the side. I found that part kinda flaky; sometimes it seemed not to work at all when I wanted it to.
What I didn't like was the daytime levels lasted 4 minutes and there was only one proper daytime level to the werehogs 3 levels which last about 8 minutes each. I also was annoyed you could not just run straight to the end.
Maybe if it was the opposite way round I might have liked the game a bit more because Sonic games to me are all about playing as Sonic not a werehog or anybody else.
It utilized a new gameplay style, yet I never hear any complaints about how, "Oh, it's a bad game because Link is a wolf and that's just filler crap. We want to play as Link, not this joe schmoe."
But what happens when Sonic turns into a wolf?
I don't know, maybe the ratio wasn't so terribly off, but I hardly ever hear about the ratio; just the Werehog itself.
The one thing I didn't like was the whole B + direction thing for quickly zipping to the side. I found that part kinda flaky; sometimes it seemed not to work at all when I wanted it to.
whoozwah
gamecube controller ftw!Â
I can't imagine why a Gamecube controller would make a difference, as the B + direction controls made no use of motion controls whatsoever. If there is a difference, that's just sad. :P
there is indeed a difference. with the default wii controls you have to press one button while holding another to sidestep. with the gamecube controller, you just press the left shoulder to sidestep left and right shoulder to sidestep right. It feels so much better.
The biggest mistake Sega had was having waaaay too many werehog levels. At the least it should've been 50/50.
Now compared to other filler in past games, at least I was playing as Sonic and as Gabby pointed out, smashing through hordes of baddies can be barrels of fun. God of War proved that. Particularly fun to stun one, pick him up and whip him around like a ragdoll. Also the platforming was decent and at least it was linear and I wasn't hunting around for 3 Emerald pieces (see Knuckles in SA1 and 2). As I said before, if there were more decent games on the market that did 3D platforming like that, I wouldn't have been so forgiving of the werehog. Blame my forgiveness of the werehog on my disappointment in Banjo's newest game that took everything I loved about the first two and pissed in my face.
The biggest mistake Sega had was having waaaay too many werehog levels. At the least it should've been 50/50.
Now compared to other filler in past games, at least I was playing as Sonic and as Gabby pointed out, smashing through hordes of baddies can be barrels of fun. God of War proved that. Particularly fun to stun one, pick him up and whip him around like a ragdoll. Also the platforming was decent and at least it was linear and I wasn't hunting around for 3 Emerald pieces (see Knuckles in SA1 and 2). As I said before, if there were more decent games on the market that did 3D platforming like that, I wouldn't have been so forgiving of the werehog. Blame my forgiveness of the werehog on my disappointment in Banjo's newest game that took everything I loved about the first two and pissed in my face.
kbaily
Exactly. I actually liked the werehog levels at first, but when there started to be 4 stages in a row and they ended up veering more toward platforming, I was annoyed. Had there been more day stages and less night, and had those later night levels gear more toward combat, the game would have been excellent. IMO, Sonic Unleashed shows potential, but doesn't completely fulfill it. Those day stages showed no one gives a crap about score in a speed oriented stage. And in a combat oriented, it's about smashing through. I feel sorry SU didn't fully deliver, but I think we can agree it Sonic's bet 3D game since 2003.
Oddly enough, one of my favorite parts of Sonic Unleashed was actually the mini-puzzles in the Gaia Gates where you opened the door after getting enough Sun Medals and Moon Medals. I thought they should have made the rest of the gameplay like that. :P
Oddly enough, one of my favorite parts of Sonic Unleashed was actually the mini-puzzles in the Gaia Gates where you opened the door after getting enough Sun Medals and Moon Medals. I thought they should have made the rest of the gameplay like that. :P
I've also heard people saying that the Sonic day stages are too easy and I don't know where that's coming from as I died plenty of times in stages as early as Chu-Nan and then you have Eggmanland which is nothing but death traps. Then again you're not playing Sonic unless there's high speed death traps. That goes back to the old games.
I've also heard people saying that the Sonic day stages are too easy and I don't know where that's coming from as I died plenty of times in stages as early as Chu-Nan and then you have Eggmanland which is nothing but death traps. Then again you're not playing Sonic unless there's high speed death traps. That goes back to the old games.kbaily
I don't think I ever died once in the day stages except for Eggmanland. The other stages really just felt more like time trials than actual stages; I'd have had to try to fail them in order to die. And the times I did die were just totally cheap shots, in my opinion. On the old Genesis games I could actually see what was coming far enough in advance that I could conceivably react to them as opposed to just having to go through the stage repeatedly, slowly memorizing all the dumb ways you can die.
Oddly enough, one of my favorite parts of Sonic Unleashed was actually the mini-puzzles in the Gaia Gates where you opened the door after getting enough Sun Medals and Moon Medals. I thought they should have made the rest of the gameplay like that. :P
whoozwah
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I totally skipped past all that.Â
I haven't really done those parts either. Maybe I should.
Some people probably say Sonic levels are bad because timing and movement is hard and they can't take Sonic's speed. But I still prefer the Sonic Stages. People vote for Werehog probably because it's slower, they can control Sonic more easily and it's the only type of gameplay that features combat.
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