What Sonic Next Gen Should of been

Who thinks SEGA should make a 3D Sonic game but it has the Story of Sonic 1 - Sonic & Knuckles.

I think it would be pretty cool .

yeah I know what you mean it kind of sounds like Sega wants Sonic to be more Scince fiction sometimes like in SA2, Sonic Riders andShadow the Hedgehog

Thanks buthas anyone ever played Sonic Robo Blast 2 on the computer that game is awesome it looks just like one of the older games but in 3D Sega should try to make a game like that

I wouldn't mind, though Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 didn't really have much of a story. Honestly, SEGA tries to hard to write plots for video games. Other dimension blah blah blah blah Eggman blah blah Emerald blah blah who cares let's play the friggin game already! sonicphc

I wouldn't play any games from the Metal Gear series if I were you, then, lol.

[QUOTE="sonicphc"]I wouldn't mind, though Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 didn't really have much of a story. Honestly, SEGA tries to hard to write plots for video games. Other dimension blah blah blah blah Eggman blah blah Emerald blah blah who cares let's play the friggin game already! caseywokos2

I wouldn't play any games from the Metal Gear series if I were you, then, lol.

Yeah, a 3D remake would be pretty nice. It could include different levels from Sonic's original four game. Nice idea.TAMKFan

I agree because that idea is surely good. Also if they would make that game the can add to it new stages and turn it more action packed and with a good storyline.

I Sonic Next Gen could have been delayed. I saw the early trailers that were very early you know where he starts running and in the end turns into Super Sonic I thought wow this is gonna be amazing.

I would like to have the gameplay more around Sonic thats why the Rush games and Sonic Secret Of The Rings are good because it has the Sonic feel of speed even though I have never played Sonic Next Gen and I never will is because you don't play as Sonic all the way through Sonics story. I want a 3D Sonic game like Sonic Adventure but only with Sonic. Playing through the early Sonic games had the speed and fel but then SEGA add more characters that nobody really likes I think Shadow is good in Sonic Adventure 2 why didn't SEGA keep him like that in future games.

the game shouldn't of got rushed i actually heard a rumor that there was going to be asequel to Sonic Next gen but I also heard if Sega dose make it there not going to rush it.

the game shouldn't of got rushed i actually heard a rumor that there was going to be asequel to Sonic Next gen but I also heard if Sega dose make it there not going to rush it.

Jmastab

They rush it out to meet the deadline instead of push it back.

It's ironic how the games that bear the title "Sonic Rush" actually are more polished and overall superior.

They rush it out to meet the deadline instead of push it back.

It's ironic how the games that bear the title "Sonic Rush" actually are more polished and overall superior.

DoctorEggman

Heh, I never thought of that before. What an ironic name when compared to the 3Ds...

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More than anything Sonic Next Gen needed more time to be worked on. Even Sega admitted that it was a rushed project and that they were forced to get it out in time for the PS3 launch and the holiday season. Though even with another six months or so of tweaking it wouldn't have made up for the bad storyline.

What needs to be done:

Fix the *^$#@& controls! There's no excuse for bad controls now. We were forgiving back in the Dreamcast days as it was when games were first going to 3D but there's no excuse for such shoddy controls and camera angles. I think first off, Sonic needs to be able to grab ledges when he goes off a cliff. That alone could put an end to at least some cheap deaths and the camera should stay behind Sonic no matter which way he's going. While these front running scenes look cool (like outrunning the truck in SA2) they're a pain because you can't see ahead of you and the controls get screwed up.

Enough with furry friends! If you want me to play as Tails, make a sequel to Tails adventures. If you want me to play as Knuckles, make a sequel to Knuckles Chaotix. When I play a Sonic game,I want to run fast through a platforming level, not slog around looking for emerald pieces or driving a clunky mech. I liked Secret Rings becaues it did away with that annoyance and I could just run.

No more overly deep storylines: Super deep storylines should be saved for massive RPG games, Sonic games were good when they weren't so focused on some deep storyline. That's why Mario games have remained good because developers focused on gameplay rather than a bunch of fancy CG cutscenes. All we need is Eggman trying to take over the world and Sonic having to stop him.

Stop listening to fans. No offense guys, but we fans have crap for brains. The post Dreamcast Sonic games were made because Sega let fans dictate what they wanted. That's how we got Shadow the Hedgehog. There's enough shooters out there we don't need guns in Sonic games. If you think that was cool then you're part of the problem.

Stop Rushing: It looks like it might be a while before another major Sonic console adventure appears but the next time, this one needs to be worked on until all afformentioned problems are remedied. Sonic games have never been delayed and they need to. As Miyamoto said, a delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever.

As is known, Yuji Naka is/was a huge Dragon ball Z fanatic. Sonic started off as a fantasy/Science Fiction, but then evolved into Science Fiction/Fantasy, with more science fiction over the fantasy element, just like the change from Dragon Ball, to Dragon Ball Z to GT. When Yuji naka departed in late 2005, the rest of the team were left to carry on from where he left off in story and cosmetics. As such, we now see a more futuristic element to Sonic, which, to be honest, I don't like. The city levels were good, often just to see a change of scenery. However, Sonic now often starts in Metallic grey broken crappy places, which all look similar. Contrasted with his early days, in which most of the games started int ropical natural places. They can say "Sonic is going back to his roots" but he's not. The creators often don't have a clue what Sonics roots are, the fans do. The creators just make games hey think are cool, but often they try too much and fail. Sonic games should always be simplistic, and at their most complex- rivalling Sonic Advenutre 2. Sonic 2k6 went too far. Riders has too I think, especially Zero Gravity. ¬.¬

The quality of the games IS partly due to the stories. The stories are complex, and implementing them and their cutscenes and the way the levels are ordered into the game takes a lot of time. The storyboards need to be finalized way before the game is made, something Sega do not do. They need to stop bringing in more new characters too, and expand on the ones they already have. What about Cream? I'm going to say this: Cream is awesome. In Sonic Advance 2: She was awesome. In Heroes: The flight characters were hardly used for me but meh, In Advance 3: Cream was awesome. In Sonic Battle: Cream was awesome. In her cameo appearences> meh. but it's her gameplay which counts. She's equal to Tails. The same with Amy. Amy's been a great character in all the games she's been playable in (Sonic Advance is debatable). Blaze too, Rouge, Team Chaotix, and even Knuckles! He hasn't been expanded on in ages. He's just there for random reasons nowadays. What the hell happened to the Master Emerald? Well since Heroes it's been (said by ingame characters) on Angel Island. That was the whole reason Sonic3 and Knuckles's storyline was implemented, to emphasize that Knuckles will guard the Emerald no matter what. It's pretty much wasting Sonic's past into a sea of crapness- never a good thing.

Sonic has improved since 2006, but it's still got a lot of problems. I agree, Sega should stop listening to the fans and just make a game series which actually flows properly, like Mario, Spyro, Zelda, etc.

Anyway! Merry Christmas everyone!

Well i feel some of the opinions here are too, well old, i guess is the propper term. (In my small head that is the only word that came to mind, sometimes i think stupidity comes naturally to me)

Anyway, i myself am a old fan of sonic, i've played most of his games. Apart from a select few for the likes of sonic rivals series, sonic jam (although doesn't really count due to it being a game that had the first 3 sonic games in it) sonic rush adventure and mario and sonic at the olympic games (should'a been sonic and mario, sega developed it after all ¬.¬) Basically i believe much like the rest of you this sonic game was rushed, well actually it's obvious. I mean in the xbox360 manual it mentions certain features which are susposedly in the game, however are not useable or in the game at all. This is just one way it shows how rushed it was, obviously the loading screens (f**king pain in the arse) and various other things show this too, like the fly meter that happened to not appear in the final game, from the bad camera angles (although admitally could of been better, they have done a bad job at this in previous games so this could of been the final cut, but still more work could'a been done on it) small glitches like mess'd up shadows. Also another thing is the fact the achievements system was badly messed up, when it was first released and if you didn't connect it to xboxlive it was said to have different achievement names, although since this has been fixed. But there are many things in this game that have been rushed through and shows that it had messed up.

Side characters, knuckles gets hurt when gliding into enemies, however is said to be able to injure enemies and not get hurt in the process. Rougue has a move where when she is climbing on walls that she can plant bombs however this is not mentioned anyway in the game itself. Obviously tails has no fly meter, and this are just some of the things that were rushed through.
Gameplay wise you can see how rushed it was, especially when people see that you run into a box at high speeds and somehow get injured by this box, or in the very speedy maps for sonic where the camera angles whilst running compeltely mess your controls up, or you die just because you touched the controls whilst the camera was changing.

Now story wise is one of the major things i enjoy about sonic games, sure the gameplay and all that is important, however since they evolved into 3d i've been enjoying the story immencely. Which is why i am enjoying this story as it brings up alot of questions, for instance, who is silver, why is there a shadow look-alike, why the hell is blaze from another dimention in this f**king game. Now thats alot of questions, now silver could easily be born from sonic hooking up with another character, but knowing the way sonic team are thinking this isn't likely. the shadow look-alike could easily be one of eggmans robots, based on shadows DNA. And blaze.. well i don't even wanna think why the hell she got into this game when shes in another dimention. If this linked with sonic rush at all, then i'd go into possible reasons of what could of happened, but i don't see one link at all. Other than the fact the sol emeralds, could be the chaos emeralds evolved in the distant future, however this makes no logical sense in comparison to the game as the chaos emeralds still exist in the form as we know it.

Also other questions pop into mind, does sonic die, what happens to eggman? Well i can say for myself i've yet to complete the game so i don't want people to ruin it if you do find out. And also, what is amy's relationship with silver? Or is this another time where she just befriended a random person.

Well all these questions come to mind, which i like since it gives a little idea of what could happen and what couldn't. Now i think in this game the one level i've played at silver is amazing, sure it's slow and it's more technical, but it's enjoyable and gives a new range to the sonic universe, although at first i was annoyed at another hedgehog appearance, i am now releaved as the character isn't bad and i think some people are just stero-typing him saying hes bad just because he isn't the same as sonic, however i think thats what makes him better than sonic (by the way better means, i don't prefer him, but it means better in terms of having identical gameplay) Although i think they ruined shadow by giving him guns, then again that was sega of america's idea since they created that game.

Basically this game was rushed dramatically, they released the game before they were ready and before they wanted to, they have stated this game was rushed, and instead of being a nice, or some would say, the next sonic adventure game since it seemed closely linked to sonic adventure in terms of the existing gameplay. And the town and such, this game could of been the best sonic 3d game around, however due to demand from microsoft to get it out by christmas and the ps3 launch wanting the sonic title ready, developing for two different consoles at once costs them alot of time and made the release of the game one of the worst in sonic history.

This was because sega rushed it, and listened and gave in to the pressure of the companies around them wanting the title.
My opinion is this game is good, if the loading screens weren't so long even the incomplete version of the game would of been okay, even with these other glitches and errors.

Even with this i still enjoy the game due to the story. I feel that silver saved part of this game by providing new gameplay, also i noticed some of the later acts of the game it feels as if it's more complete. Rather than the earlier acts in the game.
In all fairness, sega did a good job, but they crashed under the pressure and ruined the gem they had, we can only hope the next game isn't rushed and shows improvement, even now i am hoping for a re-released version of the game with an expanded story and such.

One last thing i'd like to note, the cutscenes were amazing, the cgi ones that is, the graphics were amazing and it felt really realistic, i enjoyed this alot, as it got me excited when i first watched the opening one for sonic. And you could see graphically the improvements to sonic, however i noticed there were no differences to other characters during cutscenes, and eggman was re-designed so he doesn't count, only sonic felt as if he had been graphically enhanced ingame, in cutscenes and in cgi. And i agree too many more character can ruin a game, since they are introducing to many new characters they do need to expand on current ones. Amy needs to be brought back for more gameplay, she was awesome in sonic adventure, also i think sonic games for them to be ****d as a good sonic game need to involve more playable characters than just sonic, yes sonic games are fun with him alone, but i think by adding more characters that are playable it adds to the game making it more fun, as i enjoy playing as sonic, tails, amy, E102 Gama,knuckles during sonic adventure (god they shouldn't of killed gama =( omega sucks compared to gama.) Although big was boring, the others were good, and knuckles had good gameplay during adventure.

Bring us sonic adventure 3 without it being rushed is what i say!

Sorry for this really long post, and rant, i just feel this game is better than people think, all the glithces and loading screens do ruin it, and the parts that should of been in the game that weren't, if this was all fixed and the game was not rushed i think this could'a been the next great sonic game.

Thanks for reading =).

All I want is a Sonic 2 3D remake, with a non-crappy camera. Is that so much to ask?

Also, some of the blame has to go to the consumers. We keep paying for these games, and they keep rolling out the same bulls***. A lot of changes they make to gameplay are due to how many games are sold. We keep believing that it has 'innovative gameplay', or that 'Sonic is going back to his roots', when really it's the same thing as last time! Before you buy the games, look around the internet for reviews. If they're rubbish, don't buy. Simple.

All I want is a Sonic 2 3D remake, with a non-crappy camera. Is that so much to ask?

Also, some of the blame has to go to the consumers. We keep paying for these games, and they keep rolling out the same bulls***. A lot of changes they make to gameplay are due to how many games are sold. We keep believing that it has 'innovative gameplay', or that 'Sonic is going back to his roots', when really it's the same thing as last time! Before you buy the games, look around the internet for reviews. If they're rubbish, don't buy. Simple.

Hyper_Hedgehog

Actually in fact internet reviews are very baised against sonic, many disaprove of him just because of the recent lack of decent games, i mean i noticed how most new sonic games are instantly downrated just because sonic happens to appear in it, so internet reviews are pretty baised, if you want a real opinion of a game you need to find a sonic fan that lived through the old'en days.

That is alot of writting I want a Sonic game like the first 2 on the Dreamcast they were awesome games and weren't rushed had a decent story and even though the camera wasn't perfect it was good enough. It shows SEGA can make a decent 3D Sonic game so why do they struggle lately and with Wii mote and Nunchuck it could make it a good experience. If there was a Sonic Adventure 3 then it would probably end up being on the Wii.chocolate1325

Actually sonic adventure 3 was originally considered to be sonic next gen, but due to the huge let down people decided to not call it that since compared to the other games it was **** and totally ruined. Although if a sonic adventure 3 was ever developed then it is more than likely to be the xbox or playstation consoles as i expect they won't have to worry about using the wii-mote and such.

Now sonic games are good, and if your a heartcore fan like myself you will have a bit more understanding towards sega, admitally, they shouldn't of fallen to the pressure, but keep in mind they have never had to meet deadlines before since they use to work for games on there own consoles it wasn't as much as a priority to make sure the games came out on time, when they have other companies pushing there asses to get the game out for a specific date it causes problems for the company and the publisher itself.

So sega isn't at fault for this game, i believe it is microsoft's and sony's fault for pushing them for this game so much, if they waited they could of got a nice little earner themselves.

[QUOTE="Hyper_Hedgehog"]

All I want is a Sonic 2 3D remake, with a non-crappy camera. Is that so much to ask?

Also, some of the blame has to go to the consumers. We keep paying for these games, and they keep rolling out the same bulls***. A lot of changes they make to gameplay are due to how many games are sold. We keep believing that it has 'innovative gameplay', or that 'Sonic is going back to his roots', when really it's the same thing as last time! Before you buy the games, look around the internet for reviews. If they're rubbish, don't buy. Simple.

legendary_noob

Actually in fact internet reviews are very baised against sonic, many disaprove of him just because of the recent lack of decent games, i mean i noticed how most new sonic games are instantly downrated just because sonic happens to appear in it, so internet reviews are pretty baised, if you want a real opinion of a game you need to find a sonic fan that lived through the old'en days.

That is alot of writting I want a Sonic game like the first 2 on the Dreamcast they were awesome games and weren't rushed had a decent story and even though the camera wasn't perfect it was good enough. It shows SEGA can make a decent 3D Sonic game so why do they struggle lately and with Wii mote and Nunchuck it could make it a good experience. If there was a Sonic Adventure 3 then it would probably end up being on the Wii.chocolate1325

Actually sonic adventure 3 was originally considered to be sonic next gen, but due to the huge let down people decided to not call it that since compared to the other games it was **** and totally ruined. Although if a sonic adventure 3 was ever developed then it is more than likely to be the xbox or playstation consoles as i expect they won't have to worry about using the wii-mote and such.

Now sonic games are good, and if your a heartcore fan like myself you will have a bit more understanding towards sega, admitally, they shouldn't of fallen to the pressure, but keep in mind they have never had to meet deadlines before since they use to work for games on there own consoles it wasn't as much as a priority to make sure the games came out on time, when they have other companies pushing there asses to get the game out for a specific date it causes problems for the company and the publisher itself.

So sega isn't at fault for this game, i believe it is microsoft's and sony's fault for pushing them for this game so much, if they waited they could of got a nice little earner themselves.

I agree with you there SEGA were pressured to get the game out near the PS3 launch and in the way that happened it was brought when it looked nowhere near ready for launch the storyline was awful. I think that it had alot of potential and ended up being one of the biggest dissapointments in gaming. Awful camera angle,bad storyline,not th good graphics and the characters didn't lok right at all. I was on about Sonic next big release being on the Wii because Sonic games seem to fair better on that console.

[QUOTE="Hyper_Hedgehog"]

All I want is a Sonic 2 3D remake, with a non-crappy camera. Is that so much to ask?

Also, some of the blame has to go to the consumers. We keep paying for these games, and they keep rolling out the same bulls***. A lot of changes they make to gameplay are due to how many games are sold. We keep believing that it has 'innovative gameplay', or that 'Sonic is going back to his roots', when really it's the same thing as last time! Before you buy the games, look around the internet for reviews. If they're rubbish, don't buy. Simple.

legendary_noob

Actually in fact internet reviews are very baised against sonic, many disaprove of him just because of the recent lack of decent games, i mean i noticed how most new sonic games are instantly downrated just because sonic happens to appear in it, so internet reviews are pretty baised, if you want a real opinion of a game you need to find a sonic fan that lived through the old'en days.

That is alot of writting I want a Sonic game like the first 2 on the Dreamcast they were awesome games and weren't rushed had a decent story and even though the camera wasn't perfect it was good enough. It shows SEGA can make a decent 3D Sonic game so why do they struggle lately and with Wii mote and Nunchuck it could make it a good experience. If there was a Sonic Adventure 3 then it would probably end up being on the Wii.chocolate1325

Actually sonic adventure 3 was originally considered to be sonic next gen, but due to the huge let down people decided to not call it that since compared to the other games it was **** and totally ruined. Although if a sonic adventure 3 was ever developed then it is more than likely to be the xbox or playstation consoles as i expect they won't have to worry about using the wii-mote and such.

Now sonic games are good, and if your a heartcore fan like myself you will have a bit more understanding towards sega, admitally, they shouldn't of fallen to the pressure, but keep in mind they have never had to meet deadlines before since they use to work for games on there own consoles it wasn't as much as a priority to make sure the games came out on time, when they have other companies pushing there asses to get the game out for a specific date it causes problems for the company and the publisher itself.

So sega isn't at fault for this game, i believe it is microsoft's and sony's fault for pushing them for this game so much, if they waited they could of got a nice little earner themselves.

Dude, I've been playing Sonic since I was like 3. I think I'm pretty hardcore. Besides, they weren't under pressure for the majority of the 3D games. They're just messing things up.

I do totally agree with Sonic's Next Gen game being a total disaster. It is painfully obvious the game was rushed and needed anywhere from six months to a year to get all the problems worked out. Sonic 06 should've been the successor to Sonic Adventure 2 but no one wants to call it Sonic Adventure 3.

Warning SPOILERS AHEAD

Storywise. Uh...is anyone here disturbed that the game had a human girl having a romantic relationship with a blue cartoon hedgehog? If you're not, then you're probably a furry and don't give me this "Sonic's anthropomorphic" crap. CG cutscenes were pretty but it's hard to enjoy them when you're sitting through sappy dialouge. If I hear Sonic say "Elise smile." one more time I'll........ And Elise kisses Sonic ON THE LIPS! Excuse me while I throw up. Beastiality is wrong. Let's all get that straight. I like what Xplay said "the barely legal furry undertones tend to stand out." and "seeing how long it takes an underage girl to pick matted blue hair out of her teeth and dramatic pause."

I was also confused of character origins. Blaze is from another dimension in the Sonic Rush games and yet she's from the future in Sonic 06. Perhaps there was no connection to bemade in the games and they just threw Blaze in to do it and if she died in Sonic 06, then how did she return for Sonic Rush Adventure? Silver I figured is the great great great grandson of Sonic. Sonic and Amy get married and have kids and supposedly Silver comes from like 200 years in the future so he could be Sonic's descendant but then the question of Silver would know if his ancestor was a great hero and killing Sonic would erase him from existence. I try not to think about this as it might give me an anurism.

I do totally agree with Sonic's Next Gen game being a total disaster. It is painfully obvious the game was rushed and needed anywhere from six months to a year to get all the problems worked out. Sonic 06 should've been the successor to Sonic Adventure 2 but no one wants to call it Sonic Adventure 3.

Warning SPOILERS AHEAD

Storywise. Uh...is anyone here disturbed that the game had a human girl having a romantic relationship with a blue cartoon hedgehog? If you're not, then you're probably a furry and don't give me this "Sonic's anthropomorphic" crap. CG cutscenes were pretty but it's hard to enjoy them when you're sitting through sappy dialouge. If I hear Sonic say "Elise smile." one more time I'll........ And Elise kisses Sonic ON THE LIPS! Excuse me while I throw up. Beastiality is wrong. Let's all get that straight. I like what Xplay said "the barely legal furry undertones tend to stand out." and "seeing how long it takes an underage girl to pick matted blue hair out of her teeth and dramatic pause."

I was also confused of character origins. Blaze is from another dimension in the Sonic Rush games and yet she's from the future in Sonic 06. Perhaps there was no connection to bemade in the games and they just threw Blaze in to do it and if she died in Sonic 06, then how did she return for Sonic Rush Adventure? Silver I figured is the great great great grandson of Sonic. Sonic and Amy get married and have kids and supposedly Silver comes from like 200 years in the future so he could be Sonic's descendant but then the question of Silver would know if his ancestor was a great hero and killing Sonic would erase him from existence. I try not to think about this as it might give me an anurism.

kbaily

Great points, Kbaily! The story is quite difficult to follow, indeed. I'm still confused about Blaze's involvement in the storyline...

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I do totally agree with Sonic's Next Gen game being a total disaster. It is painfully obvious the game was rushed and needed anywhere from six months to a year to get all the problems worked out. Sonic 06 should've been the successor to Sonic Adventure 2 but no one wants to call it Sonic Adventure 3.

Warning SPOILERS AHEAD

Storywise. Uh...is anyone here disturbed that the game had a human girl having a romantic relationship with a blue cartoon hedgehog? If you're not, then you're probably a furry and don't give me this "Sonic's anthropomorphic" crap. CG cutscenes were pretty but it's hard to enjoy them when you're sitting through sappy dialouge. If I hear Sonic say "Elise smile." one more time I'll........ And Elise kisses Sonic ON THE LIPS! Excuse me while I throw up. Beastiality is wrong. Let's all get that straight. I like what Xplay said "the barely legal furry undertones tend to stand out." and "seeing how long it takes an underage girl to pick matted blue hair out of her teeth and dramatic pause."

I was also confused of character origins. Blaze is from another dimension in the Sonic Rush games and yet she's from the future in Sonic 06. Perhaps there was no connection to bemade in the games and they just threw Blaze in to do it and if she died in Sonic 06, then how did she return for Sonic Rush Adventure? Silver I figured is the great great great grandson of Sonic. Sonic and Amy get married and have kids and supposedly Silver comes from like 200 years in the future so he could be Sonic's descendant but then the question of Silver would know if his ancestor was a great hero and killing Sonic would erase him from existence. I try not to think about this as it might give me an anurism.

kbaily

X-Play's great. And the bestiality? When I first saw that cutscene, I think my heart stopped beating, and started screaming 'NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!'. And Blaze's inclusion? That was just random.

I'm one of the few that didn't think Sonic the Hedgehog 360/PS3 completely sucked. It had its faults, but it wasn't completely horrible like everyone said, it did have its moments.

If they had fixed the glitches, loading screens, and had made the controls less sensitive, then it would have been incredible.

Let us take this moment to reflect on the timeline of Sonic Next Gen and how it went from exciting rebirth of Sonic to horrible disappointment:

We must go back to 2005 before the PS3, before the Xbox 360. Sonic was approaching his 15th anniversary. His 10th was spent watching the Dreamcast die. Not a good anniversary. The first trailer of this new and improved Sonic was shown. We watched as Sonic ran through beautiful forests, smashed through robots and turned into Super Sonic in glorious HD and we were told by Sega that this was the 3D Sonic we had dreamed of and that it would be the successor to Sonic Adventure 2. Even the most hardened Sonic critics were interested.

Then came the news that Sonic's creator Yuji Naka was leaving to start his own company. That's like Miyamoto leaving halfway through a Mario game's production. Then some more trailers came out and some story was revealed, Sonic was saving a princess? Ok. Then there appeared scenes of Sonic having a romantic relationship with said princess. Ewwww. But Sega still promised that this game would bring back lost fans.

Sega said that after the end of the Dreamcast, they needed money and mass marketed Sonic to kids and no where is this more apparent than in Sonic Heroes. The bright colors and simplistic dialogue and short game did seem to have a youngster feel to it but gameplay that felt more old school. Sonic X was a way to market to kids. Kids are stupid enough to buy anything based on their favorite cartoon show. Look at all the Spongebob games that sell. Whythat didn't work forViva Pinata I'll never know.Sega went so far as to fire the game VO cast and replace them with the 4kids TV actors so that the games would sound consistent to the show.Then as a way to appeal to the lowest common denominator, they made Shadow the hedgehog. Take Sonic's evil twin, give him a gun and make a dark and edgy game to cash in on shock value. If you think having Shadow shooting guns and swearing was cool then you're part of the problem. But after Shadow's game most of us figured the series couldn't sink lower than that and Riderswasa step up we hoped at least.

During the beginning of 2006 more info surfaced on Sonic's Next Gen endeavor. It would be a PS3 launch title (as well as on the 360) it would feature a new playable character called Silver, a slower hedgehog from the future who uses telekenetic abilities and is out to destroy Sonic. Shadow would also be playable which worried some but at least it was optional. Still many were happy that it seemed as though there were less playable characters this time around or so we thought.

E3 2006 is mostly known as the last E3 and the show where Nintendo Wii made a huge splash and the PS3 went from heavyweight contender to overpriced joke, but also playable at the show was Sonic's next gen offerings and early reports of Sonic 06 already said the controls were sloppy as with most Sonic games. Still the fans, like myself figured, well if they're only as bad as Heroes or Adventure, then I can deal with that, but another next gen Sonic game started to get more attention, "Sonic Wild Fire" (as it was known at the time) for the Wii. This one seemed to be doing more things right. The Wii controls eliminated the jumpy camera that plagued Sonic games in the past. The game was more focused on running and playing only as Sonic. Suddenly it seemed like the Wii was the way to go for Sonic, but the 360/PS3 game had what seemed to be a deeper story and more varied gameplay and of course prettier graphics. Perhaps Sega had time to fix some issues.

After a couple more months a demo showed up on Xbox Live and perhaps Sega knew what was coming and tried to keep gamers away. I played the demo in the store and the controls were actually worse than all other 3D Sonic games. Then came the first review I saw in "Play" magazine. Those who want to question if reviewers are bribed into giving higher scores. Play gave it a 9.5 with a cover story about Sonic. Reading Play's review is an example of Sonic 06 could've been full of high praise of bringing Sonic back to glory however that was the only score above a 6 Sonic would ever see (at least I think). Soon after mroe reviews surfaced. Sonic Next Gen wasn't just bad, it was horrible! Where as Sega promised this would correct themistakes of the past, this game only emphasized them more greatly The controls sucked, the load screens were ever present, the story was crap and mostly remembered for the furry undertones with sappy love scenes with Sonic and Princess Elise, you were once again forced to play as lame sidekicks, most of whom controlled terribly (Tails), glitches were ever present, the in game graphics weren't nearly asnice as all the CG trailers we'd seen and after a while it was apparent the game was rushed and needed much more time. The game bombed at retail mostly only being bought by hardcore Sonic fans and parents looking for a kid friendly 360 game (should've gotten Viva Pinata instead). Sonic Next Gen was slammed by critics, booed by fans and ended up being one of the worst games of 2006. Had it not been for "Mobile Suit Gundam Crossfire" stinking up the PS3 launch, Sonic might have gotten the top dishonor.

Here we are over a year later. After Sonic's next gen disaster, Sega eventually admitted that the game was rushed. They were trying to get it out in time for the holiday season and the PS3 launch and knew it needed more time that it wasn't given.

Luckily for Sonic things got better after that. Most fans, figured Sonic Next Gen was the lowest the series could go (then again we said that about Shadow) and that there was no where to go but up. Secret Rings while not perfect was a step back in the right direction and Rivals gave PSP owners a decent handheld racing game. Sonic and Mario came together in their first game at the Olympics and of course Sonic was announced as a fighter in Brawl.

Hopefully next time Sega tries a "Next Gen Return to form" it can truly be a great game and not an overhypedrushed mess.

And just to add insult to injury he's a time capsule courtesy of gametrailers.com with their Award for the Biggest Disappointment of 2006. Along with Xplay's Golden Mullet, Sonic's got two reminders on his shelf of this disaster.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/16066.html

And if you're wonder this year's disappointment was Lair.

At Gametrailers I remeber it getting dissapointment of the year in 2006 and when I saw it I thought what is this it's horrible how could Sonic games be this poor.

From what I heard not many magazines I read were looking forward to it compared to Sonic Secret Of The Rings which was a much better attempt at a game.

[QUOTE="legendary_noob"][QUOTE="Hyper_Hedgehog"]

All I want is a Sonic 2 3D remake, with a non-crappy camera. Is that so much to ask?

Also, some of the blame has to go to the consumers. We keep paying for these games, and they keep rolling out the same bulls***. A lot of changes they make to gameplay are due to how many games are sold. We keep believing that it has 'innovative gameplay', or that 'Sonic is going back to his roots', when really it's the same thing as last time! Before you buy the games, look around the internet for reviews. If they're rubbish, don't buy. Simple.

Hyper_Hedgehog

Actually in fact internet reviews are very baised against sonic, many disaprove of him just because of the recent lack of decent games, i mean i noticed how most new sonic games are instantly downrated just because sonic happens to appear in it, so internet reviews are pretty baised, if you want a real opinion of a game you need to find a sonic fan that lived through the old'en days.

That is alot of writting I want a Sonic game like the first 2 on the Dreamcast they were awesome games and weren't rushed had a decent story and even though the camera wasn't perfect it was good enough. It shows SEGA can make a decent 3D Sonic game so why do they struggle lately and with Wii mote and Nunchuck it could make it a good experience. If there was a Sonic Adventure 3 then it would probably end up being on the Wii.chocolate1325

Actually sonic adventure 3 was originally considered to be sonic next gen, but due to the huge let down people decided to not call it that since compared to the other games it was **** and totally ruined. Although if a sonic adventure 3 was ever developed then it is more than likely to be the xbox or playstation consoles as i expect they won't have to worry about using the wii-mote and such.

Now sonic games are good, and if your a heartcore fan like myself you will have a bit more understanding towards sega, admitally, they shouldn't of fallen to the pressure, but keep in mind they have never had to meet deadlines before since they use to work for games on there own consoles it wasn't as much as a priority to make sure the games came out on time, when they have other companies pushing there asses to get the game out for a specific date it causes problems for the company and the publisher itself.

So sega isn't at fault for this game, i believe it is microsoft's and sony's fault for pushing them for this game so much, if they waited they could of got a nice little earner themselves.

Dude, I've been playing Sonic since I was like 3. I think I'm pretty hardcore. Besides, they weren't under pressure for the majority of the 3D games. They're just messing things up.

Erm of course they were under pressure, they don't work for themselves now, they work for other companies, if microsoft aren't happy they don't have to publish there games, just like sony. They were pressured to release for the christmas period, just like sony pressured them for the launch of the ps3, because they wanted a big name for the release, i mean sony doesn't really have a mascot of there own, or many big games now.

Plus sega were developing for 2 different consoles at the same time, which will slow things down aswell. Sega have never had pressure from other companies before, i mean nintendo don't pressure sega for one main reason, they helped nintendo survive like hell whilst the gamecube was alive, some can even say the cube may of died without sega. I mean many fans were disappointed sonic wasn't ready for the launch even though it looked so good, but did they rush, no. Nintendo applied no pressure so they took there time, as for sonic 06, they got pressured into it by these big companies, no wonder it was messed up, i mean you can see this was rushed as the manual says things about the game which ironically don't appear in the game at all anymore!

I do totally agree with Sonic's Next Gen game being a total disaster. It is painfully obvious the game was rushed and needed anywhere from six months to a year to get all the problems worked out. Sonic 06 should've been the successor to Sonic Adventure 2 but no one wants to call it Sonic Adventure 3.

Warning SPOILERS AHEAD

Storywise. Uh...is anyone here disturbed that the game had a human girl having a romantic relationship with a blue cartoon hedgehog? If you're not, then you're probably a furry and don't give me this "Sonic's anthropomorphic" crap. CG cutscenes were pretty but it's hard to enjoy them when you're sitting through sappy dialouge. If I hear Sonic say "Elise smile." one more time I'll........ And Elise kisses Sonic ON THE LIPS! Excuse me while I throw up. Beastiality is wrong. Let's all get that straight. I like what Xplay said "the barely legal furry undertones tend to stand out." and "seeing how long it takes an underage girl to pick matted blue hair out of her teeth and dramatic pause."

I was also confused of character origins. Blaze is from another dimension in the Sonic Rush games and yet she's from the future in Sonic 06. Perhaps there was no connection to bemade in the games and they just threw Blaze in to do it and if she died in Sonic 06, then how did she return for Sonic Rush Adventure? Silver I figured is the great great great grandson of Sonic. Sonic and Amy get married and have kids and supposedly Silver comes from like 200 years in the future so he could be Sonic's descendant but then the question of Silver would know if his ancestor was a great hero and killing Sonic would erase him from existence. I try not to think about this as it might give me an anurism.

kbaily

Well although i've yet to fully complete the game (since the loading screens become a little repetitive) i have to say, to be have honest (spoilers ahead partialyl)

That the kiss didn't bother me, i mean sure it's a bit wrong, but so what i mean it's like saying love is wrong. Besides sonic would never tie himself down, it's just not him, he likes to be free. And as for silver, well it could of been sonic's kid, or whatever, but he has the fur of shadow? it kinda makes it a choice between sonic and shadow, but also, it could mean sonic went with blaze, which as you said dies in this? But what the hell, shes in the game? why? lol, i still don't get it, i think they threw her in because they didn't know who else could work with silver, but in my opinion it wouldn't suprise me if sonic team end up saying something like blaze doesn't die, but get sents to an alternative reality in this, but then how does she susposedly know sonic already? so they've messed it up there really, but i don't mind much.

From what I heard not many magazines I read were looking forward to it compared to Sonic Secret Of The Rings which was a much better attempt at a game.

chocolate1325

Many were originally looking forward to Sonic 06 as it did appear to be the game that was more in depth with a deeper story and more thanjust running through the desert. I remember seeing a letter in Nintendo power from a gamer who said he looked more forward to the Sonic 360/PS3 game than Secret Rings of course once it was revaled that Sonic 06 was terrible, people's views shifted.

Let us take this moment to reflect on the timeline of Sonic Next Gen and how it went from exciting rebirth of Sonic to horrible disappointment:

We must go back to 2005 before the PS3, before the Xbox 360. Sonic was approaching his 15th anniversary. His 10th was spent watching the Dreamcast die. Not a good anniversary. The first trailer of this new and improved Sonic was shown. We watched as Sonic ran through beautiful forests, smashed through robots and turned into Super Sonic in glorious HD and we were told by Sega that this was the 3D Sonic we had dreamed of and that it would be the successor to Sonic Adventure 2. Even the most hardened Sonic critics were interested.

Then came the news that Sonic's creator Yuji Naka was leaving to start his own company. That's like Miyamoto leaving halfway through a Mario game's production. Then some more trailers came out and some story was revealed, Sonic was saving a princess? Ok. Then there appeared scenes of Sonic having a romantic relationship with said princess. Ewwww. But Sega still promised that this game would bring back lost fans.

Sega said that after the end of the Dreamcast, they needed money and mass marketed Sonic to kids and no where is this more apparent than in Sonic Heroes. The bright colors and simplistic dialogue and short game did seem to have a youngster feel to it but gameplay that felt more old school. Sonic X was a way to market to kids. Kids are stupid enough to buy anything based on their favorite cartoon show. Look at all the Spongebob games that sell. Whythat didn't work forViva Pinata I'll never know.Sega went so far as to fire the game VO cast and replace them with the 4kids TV actors so that the games would sound consistent to the show.Then as a way to appeal to the lowest common denominator, they made Shadow the hedgehog. Take Sonic's evil twin, give him a gun and make a dark and edgy game to cash in on shock value. If you think having Shadow shooting guns and swearing was cool then you're part of the problem. But after Shadow's game most of us figured the series couldn't sink lower than that and Riderswasa step up we hoped at least.

During the beginning of 2006 more info surfaced on Sonic's Next Gen endeavor. It would be a PS3 launch title (as well as on the 360) it would feature a new playable character called Silver, a slower hedgehog from the future who uses telekenetic abilities and is out to destroy Sonic. Shadow would also be playable which worried some but at least it was optional. Still many were happy that it seemed as though there were less playable characters this time around or so we thought.

E3 2006 is mostly known as the last E3 and the show where Nintendo Wii made a huge splash and the PS3 went from heavyweight contender to overpriced joke, but also playable at the show was Sonic's next gen offerings and early reports of Sonic 06 already said the controls were sloppy as with most Sonic games. Still the fans, like myself figured, well if they're only as bad as Heroes or Adventure, then I can deal with that, but another next gen Sonic game started to get more attention, "Sonic Wild Fire" (as it was known at the time) for the Wii. This one seemed to be doing more things right. The Wii controls eliminated the jumpy camera that plagued Sonic games in the past. The game was more focused on running and playing only as Sonic. Suddenly it seemed like the Wii was the way to go for Sonic, but the 360/PS3 game had what seemed to be a deeper story and more varied gameplay and of course prettier graphics. Perhaps Sega had time to fix some issues.

After a couple more months a demo showed up on Xbox Live and perhaps Sega knew what was coming and tried to keep gamers away. I played the demo in the store and the controls were actually worse than all other 3D Sonic games. Then came the first review I saw in "Play" magazine. Those who want to question if reviewers are bribed into giving higher scores. Play gave it a 9.5 with a cover story about Sonic. Reading Play's review is an example of Sonic 06 could've been full of high praise of bringing Sonic back to glory however that was the only score above a 6 Sonic would ever see (at least I think). Soon after mroe reviews surfaced. Sonic Next Gen wasn't just bad, it was horrible! Where as Sega promised this would correct themistakes of the past, this game only emphasized them more greatly The controls sucked, the load screens were ever present, the story was crap and mostly remembered for the furry undertones with sappy love scenes with Sonic and Princess Elise, you were once again forced to play as lame sidekicks, most of whom controlled terribly (Tails), glitches were ever present, the in game graphics weren't nearly asnice as all the CG trailers we'd seen and after a while it was apparent the game was rushed and needed much more time. The game bombed at retail mostly only being bought by hardcore Sonic fans and parents looking for a kid friendly 360 game (should've gotten Viva Pinata instead). Sonic Next Gen was slammed by critics, booed by fans and ended up being one of the worst games of 2006. Had it not been for "Mobile Suit Gundam Crossfire" stinking up the PS3 launch, Sonic might have gotten the top dishonor.

Here we are over a year later. After Sonic's next gen disaster, Sega eventually admitted that the game was rushed. They were trying to get it out in time for the holiday season and the PS3 launch and knew it needed more time that it wasn't given.

Luckily for Sonic things got better after that. Most fans, figured Sonic Next Gen was the lowest the series could go (then again we said that about Shadow) and that there was no where to go but up. Secret Rings while not perfect was a step back in the right direction and Rivals gave PSP owners a decent handheld racing game. Sonic and Mario came together in their first game at the Olympics and of course Sonic was announced as a fighter in Brawl.

Hopefully next time Sega tries a "Next Gen Return to form" it can truly be a great game and not an overhypedrushed mess.

kbaily

Kbaily, you've really done it this time. LOL There's one thing I'd like to say here: Play Magazine was more than just bribed. Its editors were held as hostages by Sega, until they agreed on the "9.5". Either that, or the whole joint was heavily intoxicated. You choose.

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