2008 ESPN NFL Power Rankings (56k=slow load)

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Looks like ESPN think Pats will do 16-0 again. Funny to see the Giants at #6 with 10-6 record. Even though they won the SB they arent a very strong team.Just_Osmo

Aren't those just last year's records?

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]Looks like ESPN think Pats will do 16-0 again. Funny to see the Giants at #6 with 10-6 record. Even though they won the SB they arent a very strong team.duxup

Aren't those just last year's records?

No, its 2008, ESPN just had them on First Take. If you look it has what they project then the end of last seasons ranking in ()

IE: NY Giants 6(9)

They ended last season ranked at 9 and are ranked at 10 this season.

Oh you meant the records, your right. Either way this thread is about the powe rrankings.

The Packers seem a bit high on that list to me.

Also I wince whenever I see the first / only comment a reporter can make is "they had a strong draft" yeah like everyone is great at evaluating draft picks... :P

The Packers seem a bit high on that list to me.

Also I wince whenever I see the first / only comment a reporter can make is "they had a strong draft" yeah like everyone is great at evaluating draft picks... :P

duxup

I def don't agree with the browns or the seahawks. being ahead of the packers. Don't get me wrong, the browns offense was really good, but like cinci...that D couldn't stop nobody. I like the addititions...but still. The seahawks...nuff said.

The Packers D was WAY better all around last year, and overall the pack had the 2nd overall offense despite not having a running game till what? week 7 or so?

The only reason there is any doubt at all is because of Favre being retired.

Cowboys at 4. Cool I guess I really don't know how to react to this. I mean the games have to be played anyways.

Rankings are nice to look at and read.

But it's on the field where everything is determined.

Cowboys at 4. Cool I guess I really don't know how to react to this. I mean the games have to be played anyways.

waynehead895

It is possible to rank teams based on who they have as players and how they played last year you know.

I can't see anything worth complaining about in that list.

Oh well lack of respect for the Champs, just like last season, so guess its good.

Overall the rankings are alright, but they're also about what you'd get when you average out a mob of sports commentator's predictions. That's to say quite predictable, and really boring. ;)

As much as i knock expert prediction (particularly in the NFL). Give me some dude who is going to make some interesting predictions and give some good / creative reasons.

I think the Pats have fallen off. Maybe not far, but they are not deserving of 1. Their defense is getting old at LB and S. They lost their best defensive player in A. Samuel. Everybody knows what bringing pass rushers can do to their OL after the SB. I would go with the Cowboys, Colts, or Chargers. As for the Pats, I'd put them at 5.cmpepper23

lol. yah the pats at 5. thats way off.

Oh well lack of respect for the Champs, just like last season, so guess its good.

mrgab

Lack of respect? :? For a team that posted a losing record at home, finished three games back in their division, and gave up 351 points (worst among all playoff teams), I'd say they received plenty of "respect" in these rankings.

i call for bs, dolphins are the best team in the NFL.

but seriously how can the giants be at 6 when they won the SB, anyways i think the colts will tbe best team this next season.

i call for bs, dolphins are the best team in the NFL.

but seriously how can the giants be at 6 when they won the SB, anyways i think the colts will tbe best team this next season.

Lymetime69

It seems about right. The Giants are sort of like the 01 Pats. Won the SB but everyone knows the better team was the Rams. I didn't expect them to crack the top 5. But they'll make the playoffs again barring unforseen circumstances and the Giants can beat anybody in a one game match b/c of coaching, QB and defense.

I'd put the Jags over the Cowboys and drop Browns and Hawks.

But until then....WHOOOO!!! World champions!!!!

[QUOTE="mrgab"]

Oh well lack of respect for the Champs, just like last season, so guess its good.

Oleg_Huzwog

Lack of respect? :? For a team that posted a losing record at home, finished three games back in their division, and gave up 351 points (worst among all playoff teams), I'd say they received plenty of "respect" in these rankings.

Wait what happened last season... won at tampa, dallas and green bay in the playoffs, then beat an undefeated team in the super bowl.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

Oh well lack of respect for the Champs, just like last season, so guess its good.

mrgab

Lack of respect? :? For a team that posted a losing record at home, finished three games back in their division, and gave up 351 points (worst among all playoff teams), I'd say they received plenty of "respect" in these rankings.

Wait what happened last season... won at tampa, dallas and green bay in the playoffs, then beat an undefeated team in the super bowl.

Doesnt make them the best team. They got hot and played/out coached the teams they played. They still are a big question mark. Does Eli revert back to old eli? Or does eh pick up where he left off playing well.

It seems about right. The Giants are sort of like the 01 Pats. Won the SB but everyone knows the better team was the Rams. I didn't expect them to crack the top 5. But they'll make the playoffs again barring unforseen circumstances and the Giants can beat anybody in a one game match b/c of coaching, QB and defense.

I'd put the Jags over the Cowboys and drop Browns and Hawks.

But until then....WHOOOO!!! World champions!!!!

manningbowl135

If you drop Cleveland and Seattle, who would you add in their place?

[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

Oh well lack of respect for the Champs, just like last season, so guess its good.

Just_Osmo

Lack of respect? :? For a team that posted a losing record at home, finished three games back in their division, and gave up 351 points (worst among all playoff teams), I'd say they received plenty of "respect" in these rankings.

Wait what happened last season... won at tampa, dallas and green bay in the playoffs, then beat an undefeated team in the super bowl.

Doesnt make them the best team. They got hot and played/out coached the teams they played. They still are a big question mark. Does Eli revert back to old eli? Or does eh pick up where he left off playing well.

Still climbed to the top of the mountain and was the last team standing. Who else can say that?

Still climbed to the top of the mountain and was the last team standing. Who else can say that?

mrgab

No other team can say that, but what does that have to with anything? The idea of a Power Rankings list is to place the teams in order where if a team were to hold a game today on a neutral field, every team ranked higher would have a better than 50% chance of winning against that team, and every team ranked lower would have a better than 50% chance of losing.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]Still climbed to the top of the mountain and was the last team standing. Who else can say that?

Oleg_Huzwog

No other team can say that, but what does that have to with anything? The idea of a Power Rankings list is to place the teams in order where if a team were to hold a game today on a neutral field, every team ranked higher would have a better than 50% chance of winning against that team, and every team ranked lower would have a better than 50% chance of losing.

They are based on that team 1 has a better chance of beating team 2. Last we saw, team 6 beat a couple teams above them. Not much as really changed other than a few free agents signing/loses and unproven draft choices.

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

It seems about right. The Giants are sort of like the 01 Pats. Won the SB but everyone knows the better team was the Rams. I didn't expect them to crack the top 5. But they'll make the playoffs again barring unforseen circumstances and the Giants can beat anybody in a one game match b/c of coaching, QB and defense.

I'd put the Jags over the Cowboys and drop Browns and Hawks.

But until then....WHOOOO!!! World champions!!!!

Oleg_Huzwog

If you drop Cleveland and Seattle, who would you add in their place?

I'd put Packers above both and put the Saints above the Browns. I'm not sold on the Browns. Might put Philly and Saints above both of them. I think Brees will start off better next year, they'll have a much better D and most importantly, Reggie will break out.

They are based on that team 1 has a better chance of beating team 2. Last we saw, team 6 beat a couple teams above them. Not much as really changed other than a few free agents signing/loses and unproven draft choices.mrgab

The playoff wins against Dallas, Green Bay, and New England were viewed then (and still are viewed now) as upsets. An upset means the better team (or at least, the perceived better team) didn't win.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]They are based on that team 1 has a better chance of beating team 2. Last we saw, team 6 beat a couple teams above them. Not much as really changed other than a few free agents signing/loses and unproven draft choices.Oleg_Huzwog

The playoff wins against Dallas, Green Bay, and New England were viewed then (and still are viewed now) as upsets. An upset means the better team (or at least, the perceived better team) didn't win.

Perceived doesnt mean actual though.

Perceived doesnt mean actual though.

mrgab

When ranking NFL teams during the month of May, perceived is all we have.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]Perceived doesnt mean actual though.

Oleg_Huzwog

When ranking NFL teams during the month of May, perceived is all we have.

Which leads to lack of respect.

Which leads to lack of respect. mrgab

And the circle is complete. :P Refer to my earlier reply to your "respect" complaint.

[QUOTE="cmpepper23"]I think the Pats have fallen off. Maybe not far, but they are not deserving of 1. Their defense is getting old at LB and S. They lost their best defensive player in A. Samuel. Everybody knows what bringing pass rushers can do to their OL after the SB. I would go with the Cowboys, Colts, or Chargers. As for the Pats, I'd put them at 5.Just_Osmo

lol. yah the pats at 5. thats way off.

In your mind, not mine.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]Which leads to lack of respect. Oleg_Huzwog

And the circle is complete. :P Refer to my earlier reply to your "respect" complaint.

Which of course I dont agree with, but thats your opinion which is fine.

Looks like ESPN think Pats will be #1 again. Funny to see the Giants at #6 even though they won the SB they arent a very strong team.Just_Osmo

Obviously they're a stronger team than the Pats if they beat them in the Super Bowl.

Packers at 10 with an unproven QB = no no.

Seahawks = chokers, idk just dont like this team.

Glad to see the Browns in there, I like they're team, although I'm an Eagles fan, no love for the Eagles??

I think maybe the Browns should be 10

Seahawks and Packers out.

Possibly Eagles in there at 8 or 9, cant think of another team to fill the spot.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]Looks like ESPN think Pats will be #1 again. Funny to see the Giants at #6 even though they won the SB they arent a very strong team.Fick1122

Obviously they're a stronger team than the Pats if they beat them in the Super Bowl.

wow, it was a wicked close game, 7 times out of 10 i think the Pats would beat the Giants.

my top 10 is the same as theirs except.

8. Saints

9. Eagles

10. Browns

11.Vikings

12. Bucs

13. Bengals

14. Titans

15. Bears.

I dont expect the Beras to have a bad year and the Bengals will still perform with their poor defence cause of all their offense weapons, in spite of Chad Johnson.

It seems about right. The Giants are sort of like the 01 Pats. Won the SB but everyone knows the better team was the Rams. I didn't expect them to crack the top 5. But they'll make the playoffs again barring unforseen circumstances and the Giants can beat anybody in a one game match b/c of coaching, QB and defense.

I'd put the Jags over the Cowboys and drop Browns and Hawks.

But until then....WHOOOO!!! World champions!!!!

manningbowl135

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]Looks like ESPN think Pats will be #1 again. Funny to see the Giants at #6 even though they won the SB they arent a very strong team.Fick1122

Obviously they're a stronger team than the Pats if they beat them in the Super Bowl.

Obviously the best team ALWAYS wins because there have never been upsets in sports.

BS, the person who wrote the comments is a douche, Jaguars need to be higher as well as the Giants. Patriots aren't #1 because their defense is old and will probably suck this year. Cowboys lower and then move the Colts or Chargers to #1. Not like any of this matters anyway.......... [QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

It seems about right. The Giants are sort of like the 01 Pats. Won the SB but everyone knows the better team was the Rams. I didn't expect them to crack the top 5. But they'll make the playoffs again barring unforseen circumstances and the Giants can beat anybody in a one game match b/c of coaching, QB and defense.

I'd put the Jags over the Cowboys and drop Browns and Hawks.

But until then....WHOOOO!!! World champions!!!!

X360PS3AMD05

No the patriots werent the better team, the Rams were. Patriots just outplayed them for one game. Any given sunday brother.

To the Patriots comment, they are en offencive team. The defence doesnt matter as much as it used to to them. They can outscore any team they play. But I still think their defence will be fine.

What is this best team BS? Also it wasn't an upset to me, people use the word upset too damn much. Yes, unless there is a decisive BS call that gives the game away, the better team ALWAYS wins. They outplayed them for ONE game, THE GAME that mattered. Therefore, they were the better TEAM on THAT given SUNDAY. X360PS3AMD05

You dont think that game was an upset? A 10-6 team who gave up the most points alls eason beating a 16-0 team that broke every big offencive record isnt an upset? shesh I'd hate to know what your requirments are for an upset.

What is this best team BS? Also it wasn't an upset to me, people use the word upset too damn much. Yes, unless there is a decisive BS call that gives the game away, the better team ALWAYS wins. They outplayed them for ONE game, THE GAME that mattered. Therefore, they were the better TEAM on THAT given SUNDAY. Also Defense wins Championships. X360PS3AMD05

By your line of thinking: if Team A played Team B ten times in a row, won the first 9, and lost the tenth and final game, Team B is the better team. That's silly.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]What is this best team BS? Also it wasn't an upset to me, people use the word upset too damn much. Yes, unless there is a decisive BS call that gives the game away, the better team ALWAYS wins. They outplayed them for ONE game, THE GAME that mattered. Therefore, they were the better TEAM on THAT given SUNDAY. Also Defense wins Championships. Oleg_Huzwog

By your line of thinking: if Team A played Team B ten times in a row, won the first 9, and lost the tenth and final game, Team B is the better team. That's silly.

QFT. Some people will say anything to support their hate.

I'm a HUUUGE Giants fan, but that Super Bowl win was a shocker. Eli Manning playing like that was a shocker. The Defensive line was always good though.

That being said, the Giants won when it counted, and you have to give them credit for maybe being a bit mentally tougher than the Patriots last year.

That being said, ON PAPER (which this list is) The Patriots are hands down the best team in the NFL.

I'm a HUUUGE Giants fan, but that Super Bowl win was a shocker. Eli Manning playing like that was a shocker. The Defensive line was always good though.

That being said, the Giants won when it counted, and you have to give them credit for maybe being a bit mentally tougher than the Patriots last year.

That being said, ON PAPER (which this list is) The Patriots are hands down the best team in the NFL.

InterpolWilco

Mentally tougher? They had no pressure on them. The Patriots had presure every game last year to stay undefeated. The presure was enormous, sure they cracked in the last game and lost.. but I dont see how a team with no pressure who went 10-6 giving up the most points all season and is expected to lose can be counted as mentally tougher then the team that won 18 straigh games and lost int he final minutes of the final game.